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From: Lukasz K. <luk...@gm...> - 2007-04-02 15:35:13
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Hi. > We should start using the mailing list... but we have to remember to not > send passwords to it! (Unless we mean to make them public) Yes, we will not send any passwords by email from now on! Especially to the list :). > I'm not sure I see the problem... pages aren't really deleted in PmWiki. > As administrators, we can restore a deleted page. Ok, I did not know that the page is not really deleted. Now I read the pmwiki description and I know the file is just changed to one with a timestamp, that's nice. No problem with this any more :). > I tried to do this, but I don't have write permission... Could you fix > that? Sorry, I always forget. We should always do a "chmod -R g+rw *" on the htdocs to allow everyone in our group to edit files. I hope now you can do everything you want. > I think we should use Notify as well. Why not let it send it's messages to > the mailing list that we have now? (This works well for the LyX wiki, > where changes to the wiki are sent to a list). I'm not in favour of this - I'm getting lots of mail and I'm not sure I'd like to see that in my mailbox all the time. My suggestion would be to add notify but not to the list but just for everyone who wants it. Alternatively we can create another mailing list just for notifications. What do you think? Greetings :). - lk |
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From: <chr...@gm...> - 2007-04-03 08:26:14
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I'm testing my first post to the list...
On Mon, 2 Apr 2007, Lukasz Kaiser wrote:
>> I tried to do this, but I don't have write permission... Could you fix
>> that?
>
> Sorry, I always forget. We should always do a "chmod -R g+rw *" on the
> htdocs to allow everyone in our group to edit files. I hope now you can
> do everything you want.
Ok, thanks. You can use e.g. 'find' to find all files that don't have 'w'
set for the group. Don't know it exactly if off my head, but the
following command
find . -not -perm u+rw,g+rw,o+r -exec ls -ld {} \;
starts searching recursively from the current working directory, listing
all files and directories that do _not_ have the permission
u+rw,g+rw,o+r
Using this command I got the following result:
[mrchr@pr-shellA htdocs]$ find . -not -perm u+rw,g+rw,o+r -exec ls -ld {}
\;
drwxrwsr-x 4 dummy pmwiki-mode 4096 Mar 29 03:35 .
drwxrwsr-x 8 lukaszkaiser pmwiki-mode 4096 Mar 27 08:22 ./wiki
drwxrwsr-x 2 lukaszkaiser pmwiki-mode 4096 Mar 29 05:37 ./wiki/cookbook
drwxrwsr-x 2 lukaszkaiser pmwiki-mode 4096 Aug 7 2006 ./wiki/scripts
lrwxrwxrwx 1 lukaszkaiser pmwiki-mode 35 Mar 8 10:24 ./wiki/wiki.d -> /tmp/persistent/pmwiki-mode/wiki.d/
drwxrwsr-x 2 lukaszkaiser pmwiki-mode 36864 Aug 7 2006 ./wiki/wikilib.d
lrwxrwxrwx 1 lukaszkaiser pmwiki-mode 36 Mar 8 10:24 ./wiki/uploads -> /tmp/persistent/pmwiki-mode/uploads/
drwxrwsr-x 2 lukaszkaiser pmwiki-mode 4096 Mar 5 08:04 ./wiki/docs
drwxrwsr-x 5 lukaszkaiser pmwiki-mode 4096 Mar 5 08:04 ./wiki/pub
drwxrwsr-x 2 lukaszkaiser pmwiki-mode 4096 Mar 5 08:04 ./wiki/pub/css
drwxrwsr-x 2 lukaszkaiser pmwiki-mode 4096 Mar 5 08:04 ./wiki/pub/guiedit
drwxrwsr-x 5 lukaszkaiser pmwiki-mode 4096 Mar 8 10:32 ./wiki/pub/skins
drwxrwsr-x 2 lukaszkaiser pmwiki-mode 4096 Mar 5 08:04 ./wiki/pub/skins/print
drwxrwsr-x 2 lukaszkaiser pmwiki-mode 4096 Mar 29 03:11 ./wiki/pub/skins/pmwiki-mode
drwxrwsr-x 2 lukaszkaiser pmwiki-mode 4096 Mar 5 08:04 ./wiki/pub/skins/pmwiki
drwxrwsr-x 2 lukaszkaiser pmwiki-mode 4096 Mar 9 06:52 ./wiki/local
-rw-r--r-- 1 lukaszkaiser pmwiki-mode 107 Mar 9 06:52 ./wiki/local/farmconfig.php
-rwxrwxr-x 1 lukaszkaiser pmwiki-mode 71327 Mar 1 12:58 ./wiki/pmwiki.php
-rw-r--r-- 1 lukaszkaiser pmwiki-mode 32 Mar 8 10:25 ./wiki/index.php
-rw-r--r-- 1 mrchr pmwiki-mode 3496 Mar 28 08:27 ./index.html.old
drwxrwsr-x 2 mrchr pmwiki-mode 4096 Mar 26 00:23 ./test
where we can see that for instance wiki/index.php is only writeable by
Lukasz K. Would you mind fixing them? (And please do it manually, file by
file - if you use 'find' or the recursive option to 'chmod' it's easy to
make mistakes)
>> I think we should use Notify as well. Why not let it send it's messages to
>> the mailing list that we have now? (This works well for the LyX wiki,
>> where changes to the wiki are sent to a list).
>
> I'm not in favour of this - I'm getting lots of mail and I'm not sure
> I'd like to see that in my mailbox all the time. My suggestion would be
> to add notify but not to the list but just for everyone who wants it.
> Alternatively we can create another mailing list just for notifications.
> What do you think?
Are you aware that the notify can be "squelched", so that it at most sends
a mail once a day (or every two days or whatever)? Would it still be a
problem them?
If you still think it's a problem, then I'm fine with just having notify
send me a mail.
Cheers,
/Christian
--
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr |
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From: Lukasz K. <luk...@gm...> - 2007-04-03 13:00:12
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Hi.
> Ok, thanks. You can use e.g. 'find' to find all files that don't have 'w'
> set for the group. Don't know it exactly if off my head, but the
> following command
>
> find . -not -perm u+rw,g+rw,o+r -exec ls -ld {} \;
I created an executable file "find_files_permissions" in pmwiki-mode
directory. It finds all files as above and all directories as above +xs.
> Using this command I got the following result:
I think for a directory u+rwx g+rwxs a+rx is ok (except when we
really want to hide directories from other users). Do we want to
hide some directories (e.g. cookbook?). You know, sourceforge
gives directory listings so someone can guess and see what we
have e.g. in cookbook, but for me this is not a problem, I don't know.
Anyway, ../find_files_permissions in htdocs returns now only
index.html.old (-rw-r--r-- 1 mrchr).
> Are you aware that the notify can be "squelched", so that it at most sends
> a mail once a day (or every two days or whatever)? Would it still be a
> problem them?
>
> If you still think it's a problem, then I'm fine with just having notify
> send me a mail.
It is not really a problem for me, but I'd like to hear what
others think about it - Lukasz S? Anyway, I'll start testing
it, perhaps I need to set "NotifyFrom" in a right way or else
it'll fail as not registered on the list, who knows.
- lk
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From: <chr...@gm...> - 2007-04-03 08:46:26
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I've sent a request to gmane.org so that we can access the mailing list via a news interface. This is how I prefer to read my mailing lists (it's one way to avoid cluttering the inbox). We'll see how long it takes before they respond. /Christian PS. Lukasz S, are you subscribed to the mailing list yet? In other words, is it enough if I send posts to the list or should I send them to you directly as well? -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr |
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