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[Plone-educational] Re: ozzope educational developments

[Jodok B. <ba...@so...>]

hi warren,

Warren Crosbie wrote:

> Rob, and others
> 
> Dave Fregon will be part of the OzZope meeting this Wednesday, in
> Melbourne, Australia. You're welcome to join us, via:
> irc://freenode/zope-au
> 
> Dave will begin his presentation after 8:30 pm EST (Eastern Standard
> daylight-saving), which is GMT +1100.

great! 

i'll try to be there and represent the eduplone team. it's quite early in
the morning here - let's see if i get up so early :)

jodok

> 
> Regards
> Warren
> www.ozzope.org
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rob Zaar"
> <za...@sj...> To:
> <plo...@li...>
> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 9:15 AM Subject: [Plone-educational]
> ozzope educational developments
> 
> 
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I am involved with developing/configuring plone for educational settings.
>> There is a wiki set up for all to discuss the aspects of such a venture.
>> Also, Dave Fregon and I presented a session at the Victorian Information
>> Technology Teachers Association (VITTA) on Plone in education which
>> generated quite a bit of interest. All of this material can be found at
>> http://ozzope.org/Education
>>
>> I am very excited about the potential of Plone in education.
>>
>> :)
>>
>> Robert Zaar
>> Head of Religious Education
>> St John's Regional College
>> DANDENONG
>> Ph: +61 3 9791 3366
>>
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Re: [Plone-educational] ozzope educational developments

[Warren C. <wcr...@tp...>]

Rob, and others

Dave Fregon will be part of the OzZope meeting this Wednesday, in Melbourne,
Australia. You're welcome to join us, via: irc://freenode/zope-au

Dave will begin his presentation after 8:30 pm EST (Eastern Standard
daylight-saving), which is GMT +1100.

Regards
Warren
www.ozzope.org

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Zaar" <za...@sj...>
To: <plo...@li...>
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 9:15 AM
Subject: [Plone-educational] ozzope educational developments


> Hi all,
>
> I am involved with developing/configuring plone for educational settings.
> There is a wiki set up for all to discuss the aspects of such a venture.
> Also, Dave Fregon and I presented a session at the Victorian Information
> Technology Teachers Association (VITTA) on Plone in education which
> generated quite a bit of interest. All of this material can be found at
> http://ozzope.org/Education
>
> I am very excited about the potential of Plone in education.
>
> :)
>
> Robert Zaar
> Head of Religious Education
> St John's Regional College
> DANDENONG
> Ph: +61 3 9791 3366
>
> This E-mail and any attachments may be confidential. If you are not the
> addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the
> message to such person), you may not copy or deliver this message to
> anyone, and you should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender
> by reply email. St John's Regional College does not represent or warrant
> that the attached files are free from computer viruses or other defects.
> The attached files are provided, and may only be used, on the basis that
> the user assumes all responsibility for any loss, damage or consequence
> resulting directly or indirectly from the use of the attached files,
> whether caused by the negligence of the sender or not. The liability of
> St John's Regional College is limited in any event to either the
> resupply of the attached files or the cost of having the attached files
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> those of the individual sender, and not necessarily those of St John's
> Regional College.
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>
>
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[Plone-educational] ozzope educational developments

[Rob Z. <za...@sj...>]

Hi all,

I am involved with developing/configuring plone for educational settings.
There is a wiki set up for all to discuss the aspects of such a venture.
Also, Dave Fregon and I presented a session at the Victorian Information
Technology Teachers Association (VITTA) on Plone in education which
generated quite a bit of interest. All of this material can be found at
http://ozzope.org/Education

I am very excited about the potential of Plone in education.

:)

Robert Zaar
Head of Religious Education
St John's Regional College
DANDENONG
Ph: +61 3 9791 3366

This E-mail and any attachments may be confidential. If you are not the
addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the
message to such person), you may not copy or deliver this message to
anyone, and you should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender
by reply email. St John's Regional College does not represent or warrant
that the attached files are free from computer viruses or other defects.
The attached files are provided, and may only be used, on the basis that
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resulting directly or indirectly from the use of the attached files,
whether caused by the negligence of the sender or not. The liability of
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Regional College.

Re: [Plone-educational] EduPlone coordinating other developers?

[Richard B. <ric...@pa...>]

This is the first step in my project:

The first part (administration) is fairly basic, so I'm going to have a 
go at implementing it. This is not really IMS stuff, but I think it is 
the first step in getting teachers using the intranet.

This will be mostly folders and documents repurposed to enforce a
structure for administrative documents.

The only harder part should be to integrate a messaging system like a
mailing list product so that staff can use the same system for their
messaging. I have got it designed, but I've never developed a file
system product for Plone, so I don't have a clue as to whether this is
going to be easy or hard.

Which products should I try to build on?  The collective hosts CMFMail,
CMFMessage, EmailTool, PloneMailBoxer, PloneWebMail, PortalMailTemplates
... I find this frustrating as the main attraction of Plone is a
standardised set of add-ons. It seems strange that after how many years
there is not a standard way of bringing POP mail into Zope!

Can anyone help me out here?

Richard

Re: [Plone-educational] EduPlone coordinating other developers?

[Richard B. <ric...@pa...>]

Hi Jodok,

The first group of modules I want to create are administration, resource
library, objectives library, and course model/learning design. I have 
designed them all using a standardised metaphore across all parts of the 
site. This standardisation on an easily understood metaphore should help 
novices move around the site freely and encourage adoption by teachers, 
the key to the success of an educational intranet.

Before I make a bunch of products, I would like to discuss the details 
of my structure. Is there a wiki or other forum on which I can detail my 
structure and designs open for some discussion so we can collaborate 
more effectively.

I will put my ideas for what I'm going to do first in another mail.

Richard

Re: [Plone-educational] EduPlone coordinating other developers?

[Jodok B. <ba...@so...>]

hi richard,

On Tue, 2003-12-02 at 12:23, Richard Boyd wrote:
> To anyone involved with EduPlone,
>=20
> Would it be possible for you guys to help coordinate the efforts of some=20
> of the rest of us to develop things complementary to your current=20
> efforts. That way you could make sure that our contributions are=20
> compatible with yours so that when your part goes open source it will=20
> work together.
yes! that's what we definitely want to do: get the plone elearning
efforts under the eduplone umbrella.
we are working on the "big eduplone picture" in a smaller group (the
eduplone coreteam). it's nice to hear that there are lots (? :)) of
people out there that want to support us.

what are your plans? your products you'd like to create?

open source: we want to make all of our products gpled but we need money
for further development. some components will be available for the
community quite soon. but some components will be only for the eduplone
members.

thanks!

jodok
>=20
> Richard
>=20
>=20
>=20
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[Plone-educational] Connexions Release this month?

[Wouter V. H. <at...@pa...>]

Hi, 

A question to the Connexions Developers, (http://cnx.rice.edu)
Is there a release date known for the Connexions-platform?


Wouter Vanden Hove
www.open-education.org
www.opencursus.be

[Plone-educational] EduPlone coordinating other developers?

[Richard B. <ric...@pa...>]

To anyone involved with EduPlone,

Would it be possible for you guys to help coordinate the efforts of some 
of the rest of us to develop things complementary to your current 
efforts. That way you could make sure that our contributions are 
compatible with yours so that when your part goes open source it will 
work together.

Richard

[Plone-educational] pre-school or kindergarten?

[Warren C. <wcr...@tp...>]

Preschools, or kindergartens? I'd be interested to know of any business
specs or case-studies on the use of plone in pre-school education. The email
below is the result of funding in Victoria, Australia.

Warren
www.ozzope.org


----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Bates" <adrianb ...
To: <ski...@vi...>
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 2:54 PM
Subject: IT for Preschools

> It has just been announced that VICNET is managing another community ICT
program, this time on behalf of the dept of human services, called "The
Information Technology (IT) Support for Preschools Project".
>
> The Bracks Government's Children First policy included $5million to
provide information technology support for community-based, not-for-profit
funded preschool programs in Victoria.  The IT support will include the
provision of computers, printers, and internet connections until June 2005.
It will also include introductory training for preschool staff and
executives of committees of management.
>
> VICNET is the entity which has been chosen to undertake the implementation
of this project on behalf of the department of human services, one reason
being because of our success in managing skills.net, egaps, mc2 and so on.

> Also because of our networks into communities across the state through the
wonderful skills.net projects out there.

> This program will roll out during 2004 and as it progresses we will be
encouraging the preschools to network with thier local skills.net projects
for the mutual benefit of the community.
>
> So i am just sending this email out to let all projects know. I am sure
many of you already have good links with the preschools in your area and
hopefully this will help to strengthen them.
>
> cheers
> adrian
>
> All the best
>
> Adrian Bates
> Manager: Project Resource and Development Unit
> Victoria's Network: VICNET (www.vicnet.net.au)
> State Library of Victoria, 328 Swanston Street; Melbourne 3000, Australia
> Skills.net - www.skills.net.au
> e-gaps - e-gaps.vicnet.net.au

[Plone-educational] Re: Possible structure of an IMS compliant intranet application

[Anoush N. <a.n...@wo...>]

> Here is an outline of my plans for my intranet application.

Hi Everyone,

I am very interested in what Jodok and Co, and you, Richard, are doing.
There is a group of us trying to make school intranet templates for Armenian
schools.  We are relatively new to Plone (we did do an Armenian l10n for it,
and some products, so we now know our way around it); looking into
Archetypes right now (as you all are talking about them!), to see if they'll
facilitate what we want to accomplish.

The upside, in our case (i.e., in Armenia), is that there aren't competing
systems (intranets, portals for school), to my knowledge, and just having an
Armenian-language resource is a great thing.  Go Open Source! :)  I have
contacted (in Armenia) the Ministry of Education, and Project Harmony, an
NGO that has 200+ schools equipped with computers and connected to the Net.
Their responses to having school intranets developed were quite
enthusiastic.  A good thing.

Question: does anyone have a test site up anywhere?  Anyone interested in
joining efforts?  I am half-heartedly looking at how much work it is to make
a good intranet, and at the amount of duplicated effort it would be if each
of us (in all the different countries/areas) were to do our own from-scratch
version of Timetable, say.  Should we assemble into a group and divide
tasks? (or is there a group I and my team members can join/cooperate with?)

Thank you for letting me know,
Anoush

----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Boyd <ric...@em...>
To: <plo...@li...>
Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 10:02 PM
Subject: [Plone-educational] Possible structure of an IMS compliant intranet
application


> Hi Jodok (and anyone else interested),
>
> Here is an outline of my plans for my intranet application.
>
> I would welcome any feedback or ideas.
>
> I have so far created the UML diagrams that plan all the types that I
> would need. I am planning on a modular implementation so that some of
> the more advanced modules can be developed and plugged in later. Also,
> schools would only need to implement the modules that they wanted. I
> just wanted to make sure that I had a place to plug everything.
>
> I have broken the intranet into several modules: Administration,
> Learning, Resource Library, UnitsOfLearning Library,
> Curriculum/Standards, Timetable, Attendance/Progress, Personal. All the
> modules are integrated in the Learning section.
>
> My current priorities are to implement Administration and very basic
> Resource, UnitsOfLearning, and Curriculum/Standards libraries. This will
>   provide a structure for most of the documentation that teachers and
> administrative staff need without changing the way they do their daily
> work. After that I would like to implement Timetable and basic Learning
> and basic Personal. After that I want to develop Learning up to Level 1
> Learning Design. So I guess I am starting at it from the other end as it
> looks like you are implementing Level 2 and 3 learning design??
>
> I would be very keen to integrate my plans with your project, so I have
> included a bit more information explaining my current model, though it
> is very open to change:
>
>
>
>
> Here is a brief outline of how the modules relate in IMSish
> nomenclature. I am not totally familiar with IMS standards, but I think
> I have got the important thing right.
>
> In Administration, Courses are organised by putting together Units of
> Learning. All the official documentation required for the school is also
> stored in this section.
> Units of Learning are created by creating Acts linking empty Roles,
> Instructions, and Resources. Units of Learning are also related to
> Objectives from external Curriculum/Standards organisations.
> A CourseInstance is based on a model Course. It fills the Roles and is
> entered into the Timetable.
> The Timetable (which includes IMS Enterprise) also manages Enrolments.
> A class plan includes an Act to mark the Attendance/Role and other Acts
> are check points to check on progress.
> The Personal area (or Portlet?) contains lists of current
> CourseInstances as well as Acts todo.
>
> I have tried to simplify the IMS specification, opting for simplicity
> and usability over the huge flexability that IMS provides. However, I
> think I could map most IMS packages into my structure without loosing
> too much information. Simplicity is the number one virtue if it is going
> to be used in a high school.
>
> I'm working on forcing teachers into using a particular structure to
> organise their information in order to maximise cooperation between staff.
>
> I have not modeled IMS Learner Information yet as I think I have more
> than enough to chew here! I would imagine this would be a seperate
> module linked to Attendance/Progress, Timetable, and Personal.
>
> My current model of Courses only provides Level 1 Learning Design. I was
> imagining that any Level 2/3 Learning Design imlementations would be
> able to be slotted into the Resource library, but I've also tried to
> make the structure of a Play close to the IMS model so that any better
> implementations than mine could slot in.
>
> Anyway, I've written enough for one post, so please feel free to give
> some feedback.
>
> Richard
>
>
>
>
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[Plone-educational] Possible structure of an IMS compliant intranet application

[Richard B. <ric...@em...>]

Hi Jodok (and anyone else interested),

Here is an outline of my plans for my intranet application.

I would welcome any feedback or ideas.

I have so far created the UML diagrams that plan all the types that I 
would need. I am planning on a modular implementation so that some of 
the more advanced modules can be developed and plugged in later. Also, 
schools would only need to implement the modules that they wanted. I 
just wanted to make sure that I had a place to plug everything.

I have broken the intranet into several modules: Administration, 
Learning, Resource Library, UnitsOfLearning Library, 
Curriculum/Standards, Timetable, Attendance/Progress, Personal. All the 
modules are integrated in the Learning section.

My current priorities are to implement Administration and very basic 
Resource, UnitsOfLearning, and Curriculum/Standards libraries. This will 
  provide a structure for most of the documentation that teachers and 
administrative staff need without changing the way they do their daily 
work. After that I would like to implement Timetable and basic Learning 
and basic Personal. After that I want to develop Learning up to Level 1 
Learning Design. So I guess I am starting at it from the other end as it 
looks like you are implementing Level 2 and 3 learning design??

I would be very keen to integrate my plans with your project, so I have 
included a bit more information explaining my current model, though it 
is very open to change:




Here is a brief outline of how the modules relate in IMSish 
nomenclature. I am not totally familiar with IMS standards, but I think 
I have got the important thing right.

In Administration, Courses are organised by putting together Units of 
Learning. All the official documentation required for the school is also 
stored in this section.
Units of Learning are created by creating Acts linking empty Roles, 
Instructions, and Resources. Units of Learning are also related to 
Objectives from external Curriculum/Standards organisations.
A CourseInstance is based on a model Course. It fills the Roles and is 
entered into the Timetable.
The Timetable (which includes IMS Enterprise) also manages Enrolments.
A class plan includes an Act to mark the Attendance/Role and other Acts 
are check points to check on progress.
The Personal area (or Portlet?) contains lists of current 
CourseInstances as well as Acts todo.

I have tried to simplify the IMS specification, opting for simplicity 
and usability over the huge flexability that IMS provides. However, I 
think I could map most IMS packages into my structure without loosing 
too much information. Simplicity is the number one virtue if it is going 
to be used in a high school.

I'm working on forcing teachers into using a particular structure to 
organise their information in order to maximise cooperation between staff.

I have not modeled IMS Learner Information yet as I think I have more 
than enough to chew here! I would imagine this would be a seperate 
module linked to Attendance/Progress, Timetable, and Personal.

My current model of Courses only provides Level 1 Learning Design. I was 
imagining that any Level 2/3 Learning Design imlementations would be 
able to be slotted into the Resource library, but I've also tried to 
make the structure of a Play close to the IMS model so that any better 
implementations than mine could slot in.

Anyway, I've written enough for one post, so please feel free to give 
some feedback.

Richard

[Plone-educational] Re: EduPlone IMS stuff

[Jodok B. <ba...@so...>]

hi richard,

Richard Boyd wrote:

> Can you let us know what parts of IMS you are implementing? I'm interested
> in Enterprise, Learner Information, and Learning Content.
atm we are implementing (some parts already finished) 
- ims content packaging
- learning sequence
- questioning and testing interface

your parts would also be very interesting.

> I'm trying to setup up an intranet template for High Schools and would be
> interested in being involved in EduPlone. I was going to create a bunch of
> types with Archetypes, but rather than reinventing the wheel, I could add
> something to an existing wheel (or is that stretching the metaphore too
> far
> :-) )

we'd really appreciate your contribution. we are working on such a template
for austrian schools.
what are your plans on this?

thanks

jodok


> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> "Jodok Batlogg" <ba...@so...> wrote in
> message news:bojnmp$c8q$1...@se......
>> hi dario,
>>
>> Dario Lopez-Kästen wrote:
>>
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I was wondering how much work it would be to get the API Interfaces of
>> > the EduPlone IMS work available.
>>
>> thanks for your interest and feedback!
>>
>> > This way, we have a chance of creating Placeholders for the good stuff
>> > until there is enough financing available either to get into the
>> > EduPlone Consortium or, eventually, the  various bits are released...
>>
>> we are working towards a solution for university to join the consortium,
> but
>> also to define the rules for joining the eduplone consortium.
>> i hope to present a solution that fits your needs within the next two
> weeks.
>>
>> all the best
>>
>> jodok
>>
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>>
>> have a nice day
>>
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[Plone-educational] snow-sprint 2004, austria

[Jodok B. <ba...@so...>]

hello (and sorry for cross-posting),

solution2u.net is proud to officially announce the snow-sprint 2004!

http://plone.org/events/sprints/snow-sprint/ - 
sno...@li...

the sprint will take place in schruns, vorarlberg, austria. starting on 
*saturday 7th of february and lasting till saturday 14th. *we plan to do 
to two main topics:
- ticle / placeless content / relations
- pluggable metadata
the wiki is open for your additions :)

the sprint will be carried out together with the bibliotheka hertziana 
(max planck institute for art history), especially the ticle stuff is 
very important for them.
- we planned for at least one day a kind of mini-conference / symposium.

of course some of the "plone old stars" try to be here:
Alexander, Helge, Alan, Kapil, Sidnei, Geoff, Andy,...

would be nice to meet you soon.

jodok

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have a nice day 

[Plone-educational] Re: Children's Internet Gateway Project; School Intranet Project

[Jan S. <ja...@cu...>]

   This book Python Programming for the Absolute Beginner by Michael 
Dawson is a games based approach to learning Python. It teaches the 
fundamentals of python with the student building games.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1592000738/qid=1069576237/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_1/102-0217234-5073762?v=glance&n=507846

Jan Smith

a.n...@at... wrote:
> Dear Everyone,
> 
> (sorry if it's a copy)
> 
> I am writing to introduce you to the Children's Internet Gateway Project 
> (www.opensourcearmenia.com/gateway).   Our goal is to create a Web portal for 
> kids by using open-source tools.  A number of portals for kids exist out 
> there.  But we want something 
> a) that is open-source; 
> b) that kids can participate in making; 
> c) that will be available in Armenian, too (and yes, most of us are 
> Armenians :)).
> 
> We'd like that portal to be a fun place, and one of the things we're hoping 
> to accomplish is to build a game-making environment, using Python.  Does 
> anybody know if there are efforts in that direction (i.e. Python game-making 
> software)?
> 
> We are using Plone (and Zope, and Python) to build the portal.  We have 
> produced (and are continuing work on) an Armenian localization for Plone 
> (test site at http://spi.zoper.com/tziatzan) as a part of this effort.  
> 
> Another thing we're doing is making a prototypical school intranet (for 
> schools in Armenia, again) -- and lobbying with the various schools/NGOs/the 
> government  (not all schools have computers, let alone a computer network) to 
> try these out.  If anyone has recommendations about nice educational intranet 
> portals, we'd love to hear them.  (I have wound a few school and college 
> sites that use Plone -- even UCL! -- most agreeable.)
> 
> This project received some funding from the Open Source Armenia, and is 
> staffed by volunteer effort.  There are kids and adults collaborating on this 
> (online); one project team is located in the small town of Spitak, Armenia 
> (www.spitux.org), and then there are some people in the capital of Armenia, 
> and finally, a few of us here in Boston.
> 
> We'd be happy to hear from you -- if you'd like to help us out with any 
> comments or suggestions, or point us to your favorite kids' sites, or 
> features, or anything, really.  Write to us, or visit our forum at: 
> http://www.opensourcearmenia.com/Projects/gateway/forum
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> --
> Anoush Najarian
> 
> The SpiTux Project:
> http://www.spitux.org
> 2003 LinuxFund.org Grant
> Children's Internet Gateway Project
> http://opensourcearmenia.com/Projects/gateway
> Plone Armenian l10n Test Site
> http://spi.zoper.com/tziatzan
> TuxType Armenian Theme
> http://opensourcearmenia.com/Projects/Tuxtype
> 
> Email: a.n...@at...
> URL: 
> http://www.math.uiuc.edu/~najarian
> 
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[Plone-educational] Re: EduPlone IMS stuff

[Richard B. <ric...@em...>]

Can you let us know what parts of IMS you are implementing? I'm interested
in Enterprise, Learner Information, and Learning Content.

I'm trying to setup up an intranet template for High Schools and would be
interested in being involved in EduPlone. I was going to create a bunch of
types with Archetypes, but rather than reinventing the wheel, I could add
something to an existing wheel (or is that stretching the metaphore too far
:-) )

Richard


"Jodok Batlogg" <ba...@so...> wrote in
message news:bojnmp$c8q$1...@se......
> hi dario,
>
> Dario Lopez-Kästen wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I was wondering how much work it would be to get the API Interfaces of
> > the EduPlone IMS work available.
>
> thanks for your interest and feedback!
>
> > This way, we have a chance of creating Placeholders for the good stuff
> > until there is enough financing available either to get into the
> > EduPlone Consortium or, eventually, the  various bits are released...
>
> we are working towards a solution for university to join the consortium,
but
> also to define the rules for joining the eduplone consortium.
> i hope to present a solution that fits your needs within the next two
weeks.
>
> all the best
>
> jodok
>
> --
> jodok batlogg
> solution2u.net gmbh . hof 4 . a-6861 alberschwende
> fon +43 5579 85777-65 . fax -77 . mobil +43 699 11841546
> http://solution2u.net/ . batlogg(at)solution2u(dot)net
>
> have a nice day
>
>
>
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Re: [Plone-educational] Re: [Plone-users] Children's Internet Gateway Project; School Intranet Project

[<a.n...@at...>]

> a.n...@at... wrote:
> > We'd like that portal to be a fun place, and one of the things we're 
hoping 
> > to accomplish is to build a game-making environment, using Python.  Does 
> > anybody know if there are efforts in that direction (i.e. Python game-
making 
> > software)?
> 
> Look at pygame.org

We are looking into pygame.  But on pygame.org, I see lots of games 
implemented in Python, as opposed to a game-making environment (similar to 
Game Maker, RPGMaker, etc.), true?

Anoush

[Plone-educational] Re: [Plone-users] Children's Internet Gateway Project; School Intranet Project

[Scott B. <sc...@zo...>]

a.n...@at... wrote:
> We'd like that portal to be a fun place, and one of the things we're hoping 
> to accomplish is to build a game-making environment, using Python.  Does 
> anybody know if there are efforts in that direction (i.e. Python game-making 
> software)?

Look at pygame.org


--

sbb

\:)>
  /:(>

[Plone-educational] Children's Internet Gateway Project; School Intranet Project

[<a.n...@at...>]

Dear Everyone,

(sorry if it's a copy)

I am writing to introduce you to the Children's Internet Gateway Project 
(www.opensourcearmenia.com/gateway).   Our goal is to create a Web portal for 
kids by using open-source tools.  A number of portals for kids exist out 
there.  But we want something 
a) that is open-source; 
b) that kids can participate in making; 
c) that will be available in Armenian, too (and yes, most of us are 
Armenians :)).

We'd like that portal to be a fun place, and one of the things we're hoping 
to accomplish is to build a game-making environment, using Python.  Does 
anybody know if there are efforts in that direction (i.e. Python game-making 
software)?

We are using Plone (and Zope, and Python) to build the portal.  We have 
produced (and are continuing work on) an Armenian localization for Plone 
(test site at http://spi.zoper.com/tziatzan) as a part of this effort.  

Another thing we're doing is making a prototypical school intranet (for 
schools in Armenia, again) -- and lobbying with the various schools/NGOs/the 
government  (not all schools have computers, let alone a computer network) to 
try these out.  If anyone has recommendations about nice educational intranet 
portals, we'd love to hear them.  (I have wound a few school and college 
sites that use Plone -- even UCL! -- most agreeable.)

This project received some funding from the Open Source Armenia, and is 
staffed by volunteer effort.  There are kids and adults collaborating on this 
(online); one project team is located in the small town of Spitak, Armenia 
(www.spitux.org), and then there are some people in the capital of Armenia, 
and finally, a few of us here in Boston.

We'd be happy to hear from you -- if you'd like to help us out with any 
comments or suggestions, or point us to your favorite kids' sites, or 
features, or anything, really.  Write to us, or visit our forum at: 
http://www.opensourcearmenia.com/Projects/gateway/forum

Best regards,

--
Anoush Najarian

The SpiTux Project:
http://www.spitux.org
2003 LinuxFund.org Grant
Children's Internet Gateway Project
http://opensourcearmenia.com/Projects/gateway
Plone Armenian l10n Test Site
http://spi.zoper.com/tziatzan
TuxType Armenian Theme
http://opensourcearmenia.com/Projects/Tuxtype

Email: a.n...@at...
URL: 
http://www.math.uiuc.edu/~najarian

[Plone-educational] [Fwd: Re: [EuroPython] education track at europython]

[<da...@it...>]

join here?

/dario

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [EuroPython] education track at europython
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 05:52:59 +0200
From: Nicolas Pettiaux <nic...@ae...>
Reply-To: nic...@ae...
To: Laura Creighton <la...@st...>, Steve Alexander <st...@z3...>
CC: eur...@py..., la...@st...
References: <3FB...@z3...>=20
<200...@ra...>

On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 00:03:35 +0100, Laura Creighton wrote
> In a message of Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:35:15 +0200, Steve Alexander writes=
:
> >Hi,
> >
> >My name is Steve Alexander. Some of you will know me from previous=20
> >EuroPython conferences, or from my work on Zope.
> >
> >I'm currently working on the SchoolTool project for the Shuttleworth=20
> >Foundation (http://schooltool.org). As such, I'm very interested in th=
e=20
> >education track at the next EuroPython. Perhaps I can offer to chair=20
> >this track, although I'd like to know more about the responsibilities =
of=20
> >a track chair before actually volunteering.
> Hey Great!	We are very pleased to have you.  I don't think=20
> that you will find the chair-track responsibilities all that=20
> onerous.  Martijn (Faassen), Michael (Hudson) can you clue him in
> on what it entails?
>=20
> Hmmm.  is it getting to the point where we should have an irc meeting
> to discuss things we want to do?  I'm thinking yes ... and=20
> all of you?
>=20
I am ready to help with the education track (not take the lead though)

I am organizing the FreeEDem , free software for education developper=20
european meeting in Brussels on February 21 and 22, 2004 (at the same=20
time, also in Brussels, as FOSDEM, to allow the people who come to=20
choose to attend one or the other)

Please read http://www.ofset.org/wiki/index.php/FreeEDem2004

I am still looking for speakers and sure, auditors (as well as people
interested to help with the organization ;-)

Steve, I invite you to come to FreeEDEM as a speaker to present=20
SchoolTool. Could you come ?

Thanks,

Nicolas



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[Plone-educational] ASP courses mirgration

[arthur c. <ar...@so...>]

Hi guys,

I'm going to migrate an ASP + OLEDB system to Plone. I am thinking of how to
do so.

Here are some important properties of the existing system:

1. it is not small: 1.77GB (25309 Files) including data and source files
(about one out of tenth are source)
 * I have not checked out the Database yet, but it should be a whole bunch
of user and primary data containers.

2. it is quite complex: it contains many object types: javascript, java
applet, VB .cab , window's stuff (such as MS Agent), flash, html, and asp.

3. It is now running on MS Window system, with IIS running for the ASP.

4. It is used by 200 ppl now, but the number will be increased dramatically
to ten times first, and may be (probably) much more later.

5. The source will be re-distributed to smaller institutions. The same
source will be copied to different servers many times. And different servers
can edit the content for their own.

6. The courses content will continually be developed (Adding new type of
questions, content).

My questions is:

1. Difficulty: The difficulty of converting so many ASP source to Plone.
(will it even be impossible in most cases? or I better to re-write the whole
system?)

2. Database: The concerns of using the existing OLEDB connection. Is there
any way for my Linux Plone site use the OLEDB (it should be connecting to
MSSql )

3. Compatibility: I am planning to keep all the client  side stuff, such as
the java applet, MS Agent, etc. No problem, right? then my concerns can be
limited to ASP source converting, no worry for other coding.

4. Scalability: Plone can handle such number of users, rite? (should I use
ZEO for thousands or tens of thousands of users?)

5. Maintainability: As the course content will be updated continually, I
must provide a way to update the distributed server's coding conveniently. I
am thinking of making a new CMF type, and just updating my Product Type and
restarting will work.

6. Any other suggestion/comments?


Thanks guys,
Arthur

Re: [Plone-educational] Re: plone educational intranet

[garry s. <ga...@jo...>]

On Tuesday 11 November 2003 17:53, Roderick Silva wrote:
> I would be interested in the .zexp or a demo if possible.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Roderick
>
> "garry saddington" <ga...@jo...>
> wrote in message news:200...@jo......
>
> > On Tuesday 07 October 2003 17:15, Arthur CCC wrote:
> > > I'm gonna make a plone site for a school's intranet,
> > >
> > > has anyone done it before? or any suggestion?
> > >
> > >Yes I have one up and running do you want any more details or the .zexp
>
> for
The address is http://212.50.186.47/sgs, login with username guest and 
password guest and have a look around. Not much content yet but the structure 
is there. The zexp is available in departments>ict. Please let me know what 
you think.
regards
garry
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[Plone-educational] Re: plone educational intranet

[Roderick S. <rod...@lo...>]

I would be interested in the .zexp or a demo if possible.

Thanks,

Roderick

"garry saddington" <ga...@jo...>
wrote in message news:200...@jo......
> On Tuesday 07 October 2003 17:15, Arthur CCC wrote:
> > I'm gonna make a plone site for a school's intranet,
> >
> > has anyone done it before? or any suggestion?
> >
> >Yes I have one up and running do you want any more details or the .zexp
for
> it?
> regards
> garry
> >
> >
> >
> >
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[Plone-educational] Re: EduPlone IMS stuff - can we get the API Interfaces available ?

[Jodok B. <ba...@so...>]

hi dario,

Dario Lopez-Kästen wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I was wondering how much work it would be to get the API Interfaces of
> the EduPlone IMS work available.

thanks for your interest and feedback!

> This way, we have a chance of creating Placeholders for the good stuff
> until there is enough financing available either to get into the
> EduPlone Consortium or, eventually, the  various bits are released...

we are working towards a solution for university to join the consortium, but
also to define the rules for joining the eduplone consortium.
i hope to present a solution that fits your needs within the next two weeks.

all the best

jodok

-- 
jodok batlogg
solution2u.net gmbh . hof 4 . a-6861 alberschwende
fon +43 5579 85777-65 . fax -77 . mobil +43 699 11841546
http://solution2u.net/ . batlogg(at)solution2u(dot)net

have a nice day 

[Plone-educational] EduPlone IMS stuff - can we get the API Interfaces available ?

[<da...@it...>]

Hello,

I was wondering how much work it would be to get the API Interfaces of=20
the EduPlone IMS work available.

This way, we have a chance of creating Placeholders for the good stuff=20
until there is enough financing available either to get into the=20
EduPlone Consortium or, eventually, the  various bits are released...

Sincerely,

/dario

--=20
-- -------------------------------------------------------------------
Dario Lopez-K=E4sten, IT Systems & Services Chalmers University of Tech.

[Plone-educational] Re: What is eduplone?

[Jens W. K. <je...@gm...>]

To avoid misunderstandings:

This list is for both: Discussing generally about plone in an 
educational environment and as a subset of the topic also for eduplone.

If someone is interested in eduplone internals: just subscribe
mailto:new...@li...?subject=subscribe

hth Jensens