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From: Iaian B. <ia...@sh...> - 2003-01-01 21:50:20
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Curt is L. Olson wrote: > I messed around with an onboard audio chip once (forget which one.) > The Linux drivers for it really sucked. They only supported a small > subset of possible sound samples (i.e. certain fixed sample rates, > etc.) I spent about 2 hours on it, gave up, disabled the onboard > audio, threw in a sound blaster live, and was done with it. So, my > best guess is that the drivers you have found for your chipset are > incomplete and probably only support one sampling rate (which is > probably different from the one FlightGear is trying to use.) > > Regards, > > Curt. I switched over to the ALSA driver for my onboard audio chip and I did not receive the 8 bit per sample warning. However, now when I try the plib examples and FlightGear I get the following warning messages respectively "slDSP: write: Resource temporarily unavailable" and "WARNING: slScheduler: Too many pending callback events! slDSP: write: Resource temporarily unavailable". These warnings along with a similar audio configuration were previously reported by Felix Kuhling back on July 25, 2002. In his mail, Felix provided a patch that fixed his problem. Is that patch still available and if so can I get it? While the patch may not be the best approach to fix my audio problem (ie. the source of the problem appears to be the limitations of the audio driver itself) it might be enough to get FlightGear running with sound which is my ultimate goal. Note I did try the OSS/Linux driver and I did get sound from both the plib examples and FlightGear. However, I experienced annoying crackling noises which increased in intensity when moving windows around the desktop. I messed around with the driver configurations as suggested in the OSS/Linux mailing but the crackling noise did not go away. Thanks, Iaian |
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From: David G. <xh...@ma...> - 2003-01-02 06:29:59
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So if I were to buy a new soundcard for my linux comp (cheap as possible) what would you guys recommend? -David Giraud |
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From: Ben W. <za...@ec...> - 2003-01-02 07:35:12
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I would recommend creative sound blaster myself. The pci ensonics are really cheap and work well. But I would stick with creative labs. They have some support for the cards in linux. Later, Ben ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Giraud" <xh...@ma...> To: <pli...@li...> Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 1:29 AM Subject: Re: [Plib-users] Onboard Sound Support? > So if I were to buy a new soundcard for my linux comp (cheap as possible) what would you guys recommend? > > -David Giraud > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > Welcome to geek heaven. > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > _______________________________________________ > plib-users mailing list > pli...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plib-users > |
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From: <ha...@sl...> - 2003-01-02 13:37:39
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You can get a SB Live Value for like 30 bucks these days, I'd suggest that over the sound blaster pci 128 (sb pci 128) cards. The driver allows multiple opens on /dev/dsp and it also allows you to mute input's while you record from that particular input. The es1370 driver doesn't let you do that. MythTV (www.mythtv.org) requires this ability (it provides software to let you do television time-shifting and pausing of live tv). I recently yanked my sound blaster pci 128 and replaced it with an official sb live value I got for $30 including shipping (found by searching www.pricewatch.com) -- Brian On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Ben Woodhead wrote: >I would recommend creative sound blaster myself. The pci ensonics are really >cheap and work well. But I would stick with creative labs. They have some >support for the cards in linux. > >Later, Ben > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "David Giraud" <xh...@ma...> >To: <pli...@li...> >Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 1:29 AM >Subject: Re: [Plib-users] Onboard Sound Support? > > >> So if I were to buy a new soundcard for my linux comp (cheap as possible) >what would you guys recommend? >> >> -David Giraud >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek >> Welcome to geek heaven. >> http://thinkgeek.com/sf >> _______________________________________________ >> plib-users mailing list >> pli...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plib-users >> > > > >------------------------------------------------------- >This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek >Welcome to geek heaven. >http://thinkgeek.com/sf >_______________________________________________ >plib-users mailing list >pli...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plib-users > -- Brian Hayward |
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From: Steve B. <sjb...@ai...> - 2003-01-02 17:22:42
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ha...@sl... wrote: > You can get a SB Live Value for like 30 bucks these days, I'd suggest that > over the sound blaster pci 128 (sb pci 128) cards. The driver allows > multiple opens on /dev/dsp ... Ooohhhh!!! Nice! That's so much better than the solution that some window managers provide where there is a sound mixing deamon that hogs /dev/dsp and doesn't let programs that are not written for that window manager work. I may just head down to Fry's and score a couple of those to replace the Ensoniq's in my machines. ---------------------------- Steve Baker ------------------------- HomeEmail: <sjb...@ai...> WorkEmail: <sj...@li...> HomePage : http://www.sjbaker.org Projects : http://plib.sf.net http://tuxaqfh.sf.net http://tuxkart.sf.net http://prettypoly.sf.net |
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From: Curtis L. O. <cu...@me...> - 2003-01-02 17:49:47
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Steve Baker writes: > ha...@sl... wrote: > > You can get a SB Live Value for like 30 bucks these days, I'd suggest that > > over the sound blaster pci 128 (sb pci 128) cards. The driver allows > > multiple opens on /dev/dsp ... > > Ooohhhh!!! Nice! > > That's so much better than the solution that some window managers > provide where there is a sound mixing deamon that hogs /dev/dsp and > doesn't let programs that are not written for that window manager > work. > > I may just head down to Fry's and score a couple of those to replace > the Ensoniq's in my machines. You will be glad you did, even though you may not want a jet engine roaring at the same time as your mp3's, it allows you to have multiple apps running at the same time and gives you control over when and how to start, stop, or silence your individual apps, rather than being forced to close out every other audio app in order to play a hand of solitaire or shoot an approach in a simulator or blow up a couple bad guys between letting the dogs in our out. Curt. -- Curtis Olson IVLab / HumanFIRST Program FlightGear Project Twin Cities cu...@me... cu...@fl... Minnesota http://www.menet.umn.edu/~curt http://www.flightgear.org |
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From: <ha...@sl...> - 2003-01-03 00:43:16
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Though it allows multiple opens, there is a limited number (I forget, is it 4? 8? 16?) But, realistically, the limit will never be a problem for most people. I certainly agree with what you've said here.. Gotta love those queued up "message announcements" from icq that all hit me when I get a pause between songs in xmms. -- Brian >ha...@sl... wrote: >> You can get a SB Live Value for like 30 bucks these days, I'd suggest that >> over the sound blaster pci 128 (sb pci 128) cards. The driver allows >> multiple opens on /dev/dsp ... > >Ooohhhh!!! Nice! > >That's so much better than the solution that some window managers >provide where there is a sound mixing deamon that hogs /dev/dsp and >doesn't let programs that are not written for that window manager >work. > >I may just head down to Fry's and score a couple of those to replace >the Ensoniq's in my machines. > >---------------------------- Steve Baker ------------------------- >HomeEmail: <sjb...@ai...> WorkEmail: <sj...@li...> >HomePage : http://www.sjbaker.org >Projects : http://plib.sf.net http://tuxaqfh.sf.net > http://tuxkart.sf.net http://prettypoly.sf.net > > > >------------------------------------------------------- >This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek >Welcome to geek heaven. >http://thinkgeek.com/sf >_______________________________________________ >plib-users mailing list >pli...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plib-users > -- Brian Hayward |
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From: David G. <xh...@ma...> - 2003-01-02 20:15:02
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ha...@sl... wrote: >You can get a SB Live Value for like 30 bucks these days, I'd suggest that >over the sound blaster pci 128 (sb pci 128) cards. The driver allows >multiple opens on /dev/dsp and it also allows you to mute input's while >you record from that particular input. > Do you guys think that this card would be a good choice? http://www.liquidationetc.com/13/15490.htm?460 I'm very interested in the "multiple driver" feature of this card (or should I say drivers). Would the above card let me have sound in FlightGear and open multiple streams? -David Giraud P.S. These things come with headphone ports right? :-) |
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From: Curtis L. O. <cu...@me...> - 2003-01-02 20:22:45
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David Giraud writes: > ha...@sl... wrote: > > >You can get a SB Live Value for like 30 bucks these days, I'd suggest that > >over the sound blaster pci 128 (sb pci 128) cards. The driver allows > >multiple opens on /dev/dsp and it also allows you to mute input's while > >you record from that particular input. > > > Do you guys think that this card would be a good choice? This looks like the one ... $23 looks like a great price too ... You would use the emu10k1 driver under linux ... > http://www.liquidationetc.com/13/15490.htm?460 > > I'm very interested in the "multiple driver" feature of this card (or > should I say drivers). Would the above card let me have sound in > FlightGear and open multiple streams? > > -David Giraud > > P.S. These things come with headphone ports right? :-) As I understand it, yes to all of the above ... Curt. -- Curtis Olson IVLab / HumanFIRST Program FlightGear Project Twin Cities cu...@me... cu...@fl... Minnesota http://www.menet.umn.edu/~curt http://www.flightgear.org |
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From: Steve B. <sjb...@ai...> - 2003-01-02 17:13:15
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Ben Woodhead wrote: > I would recommend creative sound blaster myself. The pci ensonics are really > cheap and work well. But I would stick with creative labs. They have some > support for the cards in linux. I have ensonic's in my two PC's at home - the support for them is OK too - although in the SuSE 8.0/8.1 distro's, I couldn't get their analog joystick support to work. That's weird because it's been fine in earlier releases. However, I have USB joysticks now - and that's becoming the standard - it's getting hard to buy analog joysticks anymore. Creative sound blaster probably has the best support of all though. ---------------------------- Steve Baker ------------------------- HomeEmail: <sjb...@ai...> WorkEmail: <sj...@li...> HomePage : http://www.sjbaker.org Projects : http://plib.sf.net http://tuxaqfh.sf.net http://tuxkart.sf.net http://prettypoly.sf.net |
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From: Curtis L. O. <cu...@me...> - 2003-01-02 12:44:29
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David Giraud writes: > So if I were to buy a new soundcard for my linux comp (cheap as > possible) what would you guys recommend? I've had really good luck with the sound blaster lives. The drivers allow more than one program to play sound and everything get's mixed appropriately on the card ... this is really convenient. If you have your mp3 player running for instance, you can still start up flightgear and it can still play sound too ... rather than getting locked out or starting up with sound disabled. Regards, Curt. -- Curtis Olson IVLab / HumanFIRST Program FlightGear Project Twin Cities cu...@me... cu...@fl... Minnesota http://www.menet.umn.edu/~curt http://www.flightgear.org |
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From: <ia...@sh...> - 2003-01-02 21:31:58
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> ha...@sl... wrote: > > You can get a SB Live Value for like 30 bucks these days, I'd > suggest that > > over the sound blaster pci 128 (sb pci 128) cards. The driver > allows > > multiple opens on /dev/dsp ... > > Ooohhhh!!! Nice! > > That's so much better than the solution that some window managers > provide where there is a sound mixing deamon that hogs /dev/dsp and > doesn't let programs that are not written for that window manager > work. > > I may just head down to Fry's and score a couple of those to replace > the Ensoniq's in my machines. > > ---------------------------- Steve Baker ------------------------- > HomeEmail: <sjb...@ai...> WorkEmail: <sj...@li...> > HomePage : http://www.sjbaker.org > Projects : http://plib.sf.net http://tuxaqfh.sf.net > http://tuxkart.sf.net http://prettypoly.sf.net Hmmm! Something tells me I should just go out and purchase the SB Live card -- so that's what I did! I found one for $55 Canadian. I should be all set now. Cheers, Iaian |
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