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[Plib-devel] UL directory.

[Steve B. <sjb...@ai...>]

Well, I've tried absolutely everything and I can't get CVS to
get rid of that 'UL' directory.  The problem seems to be
that whenever I try to touch it, CVS converts case on me
and refuses to find it.

I think it needs to be removed from a PC running Windoze
just as it was created.

I'm reading "Lord of the Rings" to my son right now - and
after an hour struggling with trying to delete this
damned directory, I'm beginning to think that it needs to
be 'unmade' by it's creator. Thinking perhaps of asking
Dave if he wouldn't mind trotting off to Mordor and tossing
it into the Crack of Doom for me.  :-)

Meanwhile - in the interests of getting on with life,
I've created a new directory called 'util', moved
all of UL's files there and adjusted the Makefile's
accordingly.

Could someone please check all this out and confirm that
it all still works....thanks.

   Steve.

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Re: [Plib-devel] UL directory.

[Curt <cu...@in...>]

Steve Baker writes:
> Well, I've tried absolutely everything and I can't get CVS to
> get rid of that 'UL' directory.  The problem seems to be
> that whenever I try to touch it, CVS converts case on me
> and refuses to find it.
>
> I think it needs to be removed from a PC running Windoze
> just as it was created.
>
> I'm reading "Lord of the Rings" to my son right now - and
> after an hour struggling with trying to delete this
> damned directory, I'm beginning to think that it needs to
> be 'unmade' by it's creator. Thinking perhaps of asking
> Dave if he wouldn't mind trotting off to Mordor and tossing
> it into the Crack of Doom for me.  :-)
>
> Meanwhile - in the interests of getting on with life,
> I've created a new directory called 'util', moved
> all of UL's files there and adjusted the Makefile's
> accordingly.
>
> Could someone please check all this out and confirm that
> it all still works....thanks.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but it is my understanding that it is
impossible to delete a directory from CVS once it has been created.
Otherwise, how could you reliably go back and recreate an older
version.  If entire directories along with their CVS source files are
gone, there would be no way to check out a complete version of the
code as of sometime when the directory did exist.

As far as I know, CVS provides no commands or options to remove a
directory.

Steve: this is the main reason why I have avoided moving my cvs stuff
to sourceforge.  I often find myself wanting to rename, or remove
directories.  Having local control of the repository allows me to
actually go in and use unix commands to physically remove an old
unwanted directory and its contents.

My guess is that this is going to require sourceforge admin
intervention.

Curt.
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RE: [Plib-devel] UL directory.

[Norman V. <nh...@ca...>]

Curt writes:

>Steve Baker writes:
>> Well, I've tried absolutely everything and I can't get CVS to
>> get rid of that 'UL' directory.
>
>As far as I know, CVS provides no commands or options to remove a
>directory.
>

FWIW
< snipped from the CVS book >

Removing Directories
As I said before, CVS doesn't really keep directories under version control.
Instead, as a kind of cheap substitute, it offers certain odd behaviors that
in most cases do the "right thing". One of these odd behaviors is that empty
directories can be treated specially. If you want to remove a directory from
a project, you first remove all the files in it

floss$ cd dir
floss$ rm file1 file2 file3
floss$ cvs remove file1 file2 file3
  (output omitted)
floss$ cvs ci -m "removed all files" file1 file2 file3
  (output omitted)

and then run update in the directory above it with the -P flag:

floss$ cd ..
floss$ cvs update -P
  (output omitted)

The -P option tells update to "prune" any empty directories - that is, to
remove them from the working copy. Once that's done, the directory can be
said to have been removed; all of its files are gone, and the directory
itself is gone (from the working copy, at least, although there is actually
still an empty directory in the repository).

Re: [Plib-devel] UL directory.

[Steve B. <sjb...@ai...>]

Norman Vine wrote:
> 
> Curt writes:
> 
> >Steve Baker writes:
> >> Well, I've tried absolutely everything and I can't get CVS to
> >> get rid of that 'UL' directory.
> >
> >As far as I know, CVS provides no commands or options to remove a
> >directory.

OK - thanks for the info guys.

The problem here was that (for Windoze-related reasons) the directory
was inadvertantly created with an UPPERCASE filename.  Whilst I can
understand that CVS won't delete a directory - it's a pain that
it won't let me create a new directory with the same name but in
lowercase...but I guess that must be for Windoze-compatability
reasons also.

I guess that we should make a rule that if someone wants to make
a new directory, they should either use UNIX/Linux or ask me to
do it.

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RE: [Plib-devel] UL directory.

[Norman V. <nh...@ca...>]

Steve Baker writes:
>
>The problem here was that (for Windoze-related reasons) the directory
>was inadvertantly created with an UPPERCASE filename.  Whilst I can
>understand that CVS won't delete a directory - it's a pain that
>it won't let me create a new directory with the same name but in
>lowercase...but I guess that must be for Windoze-compatability
>reasons also.

 #%$^#...

This seems to be a known problem with CVS.
Apparently this is being looked into and 'may' be fixed shortly.

for those interested see
http://www.findmail.com/message/info-cvs/22129?&start=17740

Norman

Re: [Plib-devel] UL directory.

[Sam S. <sa...@sp...>]

> Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but it is my understanding that it is
> impossible to delete a directory from CVS once it has been created.
> Otherwise, how could you reliably go back and recreate an older
> version.  If entire directories along with their CVS source files are
> gone, there would be no way to check out a complete version of the
> code as of sometime when the directory did exist.
>
> As far as I know, CVS provides no commands or options to remove a
> directory.

While this is true, it usual to use the -P option when checking out - which prunes empty directories.  Ie.  remove all the files
from the directory and always checkout with "-P" and you won't see it.

CVS only manages files - not directories.  Once a directory is created it's there for life, unless you delete it from a unix shell -
it you have that option.

Sam

> Steve: this is the main reason why I have avoided moving my cvs stuff
> to sourceforge.  I often find myself wanting to rename, or remove
> directories.  Having local control of the repository allows me to
> actually go in and use unix commands to physically remove an old
> unwanted directory and its contents.
>
> My guess is that this is going to require sourceforge admin
> intervention.
>
> Curt.
> --
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> Twin Cities    cu...@hf...                cu...@fl...
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Re: [Plib-devel] UL directory.

[Curtis L. O. <cu...@me...>]

Sam Stickland writes:
> 
> > Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but it is my understanding that it is
> > impossible to delete a directory from CVS once it has been created.
> > Otherwise, how could you reliably go back and recreate an older
> > version.  If entire directories along with their CVS source files are
> > gone, there would be no way to check out a complete version of the
> > code as of sometime when the directory did exist.
> >
> > As far as I know, CVS provides no commands or options to remove a
> > directory.
> 
> While this is true, it usual to use the -P option when checking out
> - which prunes empty directories.  Ie.  remove all the files 
> from the directory and always checkout with "-P" and you won't see
> it.

That's true, the point being you can remove all the files in a
directory, but not the directory itself ... and using -P from the
client side, you'll ignore all empty directories.

> CVS only manages files - not directories.  Once a directory is
> created it's there for life, unless you delete it from a unix shell
> - if you have that option.

Yup, which is something you don't have direct access to at sourceforge
unfortunately. :-(

Curt.
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