I've just now managed to get pippy to build and run on palm, and having
successfully imported a couple of my own modules, I'm feeling
enthusiastic about pippy's possibilities.
But I notice that the mailing lists on Sourceforge show almost no
traffic, and there hasn't been a pippy release for nearly a year.
So I need to ask - is Pippy still a live project, or has it been
shelved?
Also, I want to have access to a lot more Palm API functions, for
example, the dynamic UI functions like FrmNewForm(), FieldNewField()
etc. Could you please tell me how to go about adding these functions? Is
it just a simple matter of adding them to the relevant module source
files (eg palmformmodule.c)?
And lastly, does pippy have a significant user base?
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Regards
David
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I'm not sure Pippy is still alive, but I like it... I haven't done too much with it yet, but I'm thinking about porting it to GCC. The thought of shelling out hundreds for CodeWarrior is sickening and most Open Source developers use GCC anyway...
Well, happy hacking...
.cs
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Pippy already compiles just fine with gcc, as long as one carefully follows the instructions in the file 'BUILD' to the letter.
There's a few hoops to jump through, but if you're patient, you'll get through it all without problems.
To build on Windows, you'll have to install Cygwin. Note that it's crucial to download/build/install the special Python 1.5.2+ version - it's available from CVS at http://python.sourceforge.net under the 'pre-unicode' tag.
If/when I get the time, I'll add the ability to import modules stored as separate pdb databases, plus a whole lot of new PalmAPI methods as well.
Cheers
David
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It's a pity it's so quiet here. II'm just starting to play
with pippy. Downloaded the source but cannot find
the configure script in ~src.
Ah well... maybe I should read the doco.
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No one has answered this question yet. Is there development being done on Pippy?
If so, could the developers upload module docs to this site?
That would be great. Pippy was an excellent idea.
I hope no one lets it die.
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I hope it is, but it doesn't seem to be, since nothing seems to have happened with it for, what, over a year?
Quite unfortunate, really... the more I use Python, the more I love it... and it's useful to have on the Palm to play around with. If it were more complete and up-to-date, it would be excellent.
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It will be nice, if someone do this job.
- i am not familiar with C++ Palm OS programing, but i can participate in development if someone writes clear instructions in building pippy
- pippy can be a killer app if it have little more ability to interact with user.
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just adding my (useless) support for the pippy project.. Its a great idea.. even just some more USEFUL program examples included in the distro would be great, I have had not much luck searching for pippy specific modules to play with.
having a menu option to import a memo would be very good of course and I think help ppl (like me) who also took a few goes to get the import to work..
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I have to admit, I'm a little dissapointed that it isn't a.) a little more interactive, and b.) seemingly still in development.
I'm just starting to learn Python, and thought this would be an awesome way to learn concepts, or to take small steps, and apply bits of knowledge and learning on the go, so I wouldn't have to be tied down to my computer to learn Python.
Oh well, I guess you can't ask for everything.
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It's too bad Pippy isn't been worked on.
I do use Pippy. Just yesterday, I wrote a program to check OmniRemote learned codes for quality. This is a typical program you want to run on the Palm.
Too bad Pippy hangs every once in a while; I guess it has to do with syntax, but I am not sure.
Another thing is that you can only type one command at a time; otherwise, only the first one is evaluated.
But still, it is too useful to ignore.
- Jurjen
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Please, please someone pick this app up and continue development...I wish I could put my money where my mouth is and do it myself...but alas..I am ignorant.
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I can help but need a little more direction maybe from the original authors. Does anyone know if it would be possible to compile Pippy on the Palm maybe using OnboardC or PP which can compile in armlet mode delivering awesome speed ?
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I'm looking for an environment that's good for fast development across many platforms and Python seems so wonderful. It would be nice if a port of Python was out there. Why has this fallen by the wayside? Is there another environment for developing quick PalmOS utilities that would be useful in developing for the Windows/Linux/Mac platforms too?
I suppose Java is out there, but I've never been able to write anything in that "quickly" and what I've written has sure never seemed to run "quickly" either.
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> I suppose Java is out there, but I've never been able to write anything in that "quickly" and what I've written has sure never seemed to run "quickly" either.
If you're only wanting to target palm and wince/pocketpc, you could do well to try out SuperWaba - it's a cut-down java vm, with a very nice and well thought out API that allows good GUI apps to be built quickly.
And once you've got your prog working, if you want speed at the cost of footprint, you can then compile your prog with SuperWabaJump - produces a vm-free raw binary that runs like greased lightning.
Cheers
David
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Hi,
I've just now managed to get pippy to build and run on palm, and having
successfully imported a couple of my own modules, I'm feeling
enthusiastic about pippy's possibilities.
But I notice that the mailing lists on Sourceforge show almost no
traffic, and there hasn't been a pippy release for nearly a year.
So I need to ask - is Pippy still a live project, or has it been
shelved?
Also, I want to have access to a lot more Palm API functions, for
example, the dynamic UI functions like FrmNewForm(), FieldNewField()
etc. Could you please tell me how to go about adding these functions? Is
it just a simple matter of adding them to the relevant module source
files (eg palmformmodule.c)?
And lastly, does pippy have a significant user base?
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Regards
David
I'm not sure Pippy is still alive, but I like it... I haven't done too much with it yet, but I'm thinking about porting it to GCC. The thought of shelling out hundreds for CodeWarrior is sickening and most Open Source developers use GCC anyway...
Well, happy hacking...
.cs
Pippy already compiles just fine with gcc, as long as one carefully follows the instructions in the file 'BUILD' to the letter.
There's a few hoops to jump through, but if you're patient, you'll get through it all without problems.
To build on Windows, you'll have to install Cygwin. Note that it's crucial to download/build/install the special Python 1.5.2+ version - it's available from CVS at http://python.sourceforge.net under the 'pre-unicode' tag.
If/when I get the time, I'll add the ability to import modules stored as separate pdb databases, plus a whole lot of new PalmAPI methods as well.
Cheers
David
It's a pity it's so quiet here. II'm just starting to play
with pippy. Downloaded the source but cannot find
the configure script in ~src.
Ah well... maybe I should read the doco.
>Downloaded the source but cannot find
>the configure script in ~src.
>Ah well... maybe I should read the doco.
Good idea.
The build instructions are very exacting, but if you follow them, you'll end up with a working build.
No one has answered this question yet. Is there development being done on Pippy?
If so, could the developers upload module docs to this site?
That would be great. Pippy was an excellent idea.
I hope no one lets it die.
ditto...
I hope it is, but it doesn't seem to be, since nothing seems to have happened with it for, what, over a year?
Quite unfortunate, really... the more I use Python, the more I love it... and it's useful to have on the Palm to play around with. If it were more complete and up-to-date, it would be excellent.
It will be nice, if someone do this job.
- i am not familiar with C++ Palm OS programing, but i can participate in development if someone writes clear instructions in building pippy
- pippy can be a killer app if it have little more ability to interact with user.
I'd like to see an updated version too, especially given how much Palms have changed since Pippy was first created.
We now have 400 MHz ARM processors with 64MB RAM and 1GB SD Cards. The latest version of Python is 2.3+.
just adding my (useless) support for the pippy project.. Its a great idea.. even just some more USEFUL program examples included in the distro would be great, I have had not much luck searching for pippy specific modules to play with.
having a menu option to import a memo would be very good of course and I think help ppl (like me) who also took a few goes to get the import to work..
I have to admit, I'm a little dissapointed that it isn't a.) a little more interactive, and b.) seemingly still in development.
I'm just starting to learn Python, and thought this would be an awesome way to learn concepts, or to take small steps, and apply bits of knowledge and learning on the go, so I wouldn't have to be tied down to my computer to learn Python.
Oh well, I guess you can't ask for everything.
It's too bad Pippy isn't been worked on.
I do use Pippy. Just yesterday, I wrote a program to check OmniRemote learned codes for quality. This is a typical program you want to run on the Palm.
Too bad Pippy hangs every once in a while; I guess it has to do with syntax, but I am not sure.
Another thing is that you can only type one command at a time; otherwise, only the first one is evaluated.
But still, it is too useful to ignore.
- Jurjen
Please, please someone pick this app up and continue development...I wish I could put my money where my mouth is and do it myself...but alas..I am ignorant.
I can help but need a little more direction maybe from the original authors. Does anyone know if it would be possible to compile Pippy on the Palm maybe using OnboardC or PP which can compile in armlet mode delivering awesome speed ?
I'm looking for an environment that's good for fast development across many platforms and Python seems so wonderful. It would be nice if a port of Python was out there. Why has this fallen by the wayside? Is there another environment for developing quick PalmOS utilities that would be useful in developing for the Windows/Linux/Mac platforms too?
I suppose Java is out there, but I've never been able to write anything in that "quickly" and what I've written has sure never seemed to run "quickly" either.
> I suppose Java is out there, but I've never been able to write anything in that "quickly" and what I've written has sure never seemed to run "quickly" either.
If you're only wanting to target palm and wince/pocketpc, you could do well to try out SuperWaba - it's a cut-down java vm, with a very nice and well thought out API that allows good GUI apps to be built quickly.
And once you've got your prog working, if you want speed at the cost of footprint, you can then compile your prog with SuperWabaJump - produces a vm-free raw binary that runs like greased lightning.
Cheers
David