Thread: [Pipmak-Users] Blureffect in MYST4
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From: hOSHI <ho...@ga...> - 2005-06-28 18:47:47
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Hi, I just finished MYST4 Revelation. Great Game. It used depth of field effects in realtime, i think via z-buffer calculation... That would be a very cool feature for pipmak, don't you think? greetinx hOSHI* |
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From: Christian W. <cwa...@gm...> - 2005-06-28 19:34:09
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> I just finished MYST4 Revelation. Great Game. > It used depth of field effects in realtime, i think > via z-buffer calculation... > That would be a very cool feature for pipmak, don't you think? Sure. But I think I'll implement the *essential* features sooner than the *cool* ones. :) And besides, I currently don't have any graphics hardware capable of fragment programs, so I couldn't test it even if I wrote such a thing... By the way, I'm indeed working on Pipmak, even if there's no sign of it from the outside. The goal is a complete internal refactorization that will make the code more flexible and easier to maintain - if it works out, which I can't tell yet right now. -Christian |
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From: hOSHI <ho...@ga...> - 2005-06-29 19:47:47
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looking forward to it ;) i'd like to display my pipmak project to other users, what about a section on the official site? greetz again... hSH* |
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From: Christian W. <cwa...@gm...> - 2005-06-29 20:04:01
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hOSHI wrote: > looking forward to it ;) > i'd like to display my pipmak project to other users, > what about a section on the official site? In my project application, I promised to SourceForge that I wouldn't host other people's Pipmak projects (which could potentially be big) on their servers. But I can certainly make a links section. Can you find a place to host your project yourself and send me a link? -Christian |
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From: hOSHI <ho...@ga...> - 2005-06-30 11:08:47
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Yes, that is exactly what i meant :) a users section, maybe pipmak's own forum directly on the page. I think i'm going to put my project online soon. ... but what about standalone executable pipmak applications? |
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From: Christian W. <cwa...@gm...> - 2005-06-30 12:14:39
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hOSHI wrote: > Yes, > that is exactly what i meant :) > a users section, ... > I think i'm going to put my project online soon. Looking forward to it :) Announce it here, and I'll add a projects/links/examples/whatever section with a link and maybe a screenshot or something. > maybe pipmak's own forum directly on the page. That's what we have the mailing lists/newsgroups for? > .... but what about standalone executable pipmak applications? That's what the "2.3 How Pipmak Finds Projects" section in the manual would explain, had I written it yet :). When Pipmak is started without the user specifying a project to open (by doubleclicking it in the Finder or Explorer, or naming it on the command line), it looks for files or folders with names ending in ".pipmak" in the following places, in that order: o Pipmak's own resources folder/archive. On Mac OS X, that's the folder Pipmak.app/Contents/Resources/, on Windows the ZIP archive "Pipmak Resources" next to the application, and on Linux the ZIP archive "pipmak-resources" next to the application. o The folder that contains the Pipmak application. o All mounted CDs (currently not on Windows, see To Do.txt - bug me about it if that's a problem for you). Pipmak then tries to open the first such file or folder found. If none is found, or if the first one found is not a proper Pipmak project, it displays the usual main menu instead. So, to make a standalone project, you'd put your project into the resources folder or archive, or if you want one package that includes applications for all platforms, place it next to the applications. It just occurs to me that I could simplify that process by offering a download containing the applications for all four platforms. In particular, non-Mac-OS-X users will probably have problems getting Pipmak for Mac OS X out of the disk image file... -Christian |
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From: Logan W <dr...@gm...> - 2005-06-30 14:43:43
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Are we allowed to sell projects made in Pipmak? I attempted to find this in the GPL, but it was all legalese. On 6/30/05, Christian Walther <cwa...@gm...> wrote: > hOSHI wrote: > > Yes, > > that is exactly what i meant :) > > a users section, ... > > I think i'm going to put my project online soon. >=20 > Looking forward to it :) Announce it here, and I'll add a > projects/links/examples/whatever section with a link and maybe a > screenshot or something. >=20 > > maybe pipmak's own forum directly on the page. >=20 > That's what we have the mailing lists/newsgroups for? >=20 > > .... but what about standalone executable pipmak applications? >=20 > That's what the "2.3 How Pipmak Finds Projects" section in the manual > would explain, had I written it yet :). >=20 > When Pipmak is started without the user specifying a project to open (by > doubleclicking it in the Finder or Explorer, or naming it on the command > line), it looks for files or folders with names ending in ".pipmak" in > the following places, in that order: >=20 > o Pipmak's own resources folder/archive. On Mac OS X, that's the folder > Pipmak.app/Contents/Resources/, on Windows the ZIP archive "Pipmak > Resources" next to the application, and on Linux the ZIP archive > "pipmak-resources" next to the application. >=20 > o The folder that contains the Pipmak application. >=20 > o All mounted CDs (currently not on Windows, see To Do.txt - bug me > about it if that's a problem for you). >=20 > Pipmak then tries to open the first such file or folder found. If none > is found, or if the first one found is not a proper Pipmak project, it > displays the usual main menu instead. >=20 > So, to make a standalone project, you'd put your project into the > resources folder or archive, or if you want one package that includes > applications for all platforms, place it next to the applications. >=20 > It just occurs to me that I could simplify that process by offering a > download containing the applications for all four platforms. In > particular, non-Mac-OS-X users will probably have problems getting > Pipmak for Mac OS X out of the disk image file... >=20 > -Christian >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies > from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, > informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to > speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3D7477&alloc_id=3D16492&op=3Dclic= k > _______________________________________________ > Pipmak-Users mailing list > Pip...@li... > news://news.gmane.org/gmane.games.devel.pipmak.user > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pipmak-users >=20 --=20 http://www.binarytide.com http://www.blog.binarytide.com |
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From: Christian W. <cwa...@gm...> - 2005-06-30 16:13:04
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> Are we allowed to sell projects made in Pipmak? I attempted to find > this in the GPL, but it was all legalese. Yes. Your project is not a "work based on" Pipmak (in the same way that an interpreted program is not based on the interpreter, see <http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/gpl- faq.html#IfInterpreterIsGPL>), and shipping Pipmak together with your project constitutes a "mere aggregation", so you are not required to license your project under the GPL. You can license it under any terms you want. At least that's my understanding of the GPL, and it's the way I want Pipmak to be licensed. I want Pipmak to be used as widely as possible, so I encourage its use in commercial projects (although it may not be very well suited for that purpose in its current state...). On the other hand, if you modify Pipmak itself, you have to license the modified Pipmak under the GPL, i.e. make its source available so that everyone can benefit from your improvements. I don't want anyone to make some small improvements to Pipmak and then sell it, making money from what is mainly my work. Hope that clears it up somewhat. I actually expected that question to turn up sooner or later. If some lawyer disagrees with my interpretation of the GPL, let me know and I'll add an exception, but I currently believe that none is necessary. -Christian |
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From: Logan W <dr...@gm...> - 2005-06-30 16:49:54
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But I can bundle a modified version of Pipmak, liscensed under the GPL with= =20 a copyrighted project and sell that, right? On 6/30/05, Christian Walther <cwa...@gm...> wrote: >=20 > > Are we allowed to sell projects made in Pipmak? I attempted to find > > this in the GPL, but it was all legalese. >=20 > Yes. >=20 > Your project is not a "work based on" Pipmak (in the same way that an > interpreted program is not based on the interpreter, see > <http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/gpl- > faq.html#IfInterpreterIsGPL>), and shipping Pipmak together with your > project constitutes a "mere aggregation", so you are not required to > license your project under the GPL. You can license it under any terms > you want. At least that's my understanding of the GPL, and it's the way > I want Pipmak to be licensed. I want Pipmak to be used as widely as > possible, so I encourage its use in commercial projects (although it > may not be very well suited for that purpose in its current state...). >=20 > On the other hand, if you modify Pipmak itself, you have to license the > modified Pipmak under the GPL, i.e. make its source available so that > everyone can benefit from your improvements. I don't want anyone to > make some small improvements to Pipmak and then sell it, making money > from what is mainly my work. >=20 > Hope that clears it up somewhat. I actually expected that question to > turn up sooner or later. If some lawyer disagrees with my > interpretation of the GPL, let me know and I'll add an exception, but I > currently believe that none is necessary. >=20 > -Christian >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net <http://SF.Net> email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux=20 > Migration Strategies > from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, > informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to > speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3D7477&alloc_id=3D16492&op=3Dclic= k > _______________________________________________ > Pipmak-Users mailing list > Pip...@li... > news://news.gmane.org/gmane.games.devel.pipmak.user > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pipmak-users >=20 --=20 http://www.binarytide.com http://www.blog.binarytide.com |
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From: Christian W. <cwa...@gm...> - 2005-06-30 17:53:23
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Logan W wrote: > But I can bundle a modified version of Pipmak, liscensed under the GPL > with a copyrighted project and sell that, right? Yes. You could even sell the modified (or even the original) Pipmak alone, the GPL doesn't prohibit that, you just can't forbid your customers to give it away after they bought it, and you must make the source available. -Christian |
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