Thread: Spammer on the wiki!!

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Hi Chriss,

Argh!! There is a lot of spam in the main page of the wiki...
Can you block those bad users and restore previous situation?

-Andrea

There's a lot of it going about at the moment, my site was getting two or
three a day registering, mindless a'holes <grrr)

Andrea Viarengo wrote:
> 
> Hi Chriss,
> 
> Argh!! There is a lot of spam in the main page of the wiki...
> Can you block those bad users and restore previous situation?
> 
> -Andrea
> 
> 
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Thanks for the notice and clean-up, Andrea. I have now blocked these 
users. I hesitate to block everyone on the users list that looks like a 
spammer before they actually post any spam, because I might mistakenly 
include some legitimate users. Unfortunately, requiring confirmation for 
account registrations is easier said than done because we can't send 
e-mail from the SourceForge web server. For the moment I have disabled 
account registration altogether, until we find a better solution. People 
who want an account can contact me and I will add them.

I wonder whether it would be a good idea to switch to the 
SourceForge-provided MediaWiki now 
(http://apps.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/pipmak/) instead of trying to 
maintain our own outdated installation. When it was introduced, I 
originally decided against it for various reasons, but some of them have 
been eliminated now, and a reconsideration may be in order. Some 
upcoming changes to the Hosted Apps have just been announced (by e-mail 
to project admins, it doesn't seem to be on the web anywhere) and I'll 
have a closer look when they are implemented in 1-2 weeks. The advantage 
would be that the burden of administration is taken off us (me). The 
biggest disadvantage I see right now is that we would lose the 
Pipmak-specific look.

  -Christian

Christian Walther wrote:
> I wonder whether it would be a good idea to switch to the 
> SourceForge-provided MediaWiki now 
> (http://apps.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/pipmak/) instead of trying to 
> maintain our own outdated installation. When it was introduced, I 
> originally decided against it for various reasons, but some of them have 
> been eliminated now, and a reconsideration may be in order. Some 
> upcoming changes to the Hosted Apps have just been announced (by e-mail 
> to project admins, it doesn't seem to be on the web anywhere) and I'll 
> have a closer look when they are implemented in 1-2 weeks. The advantage 
> would be that the burden of administration is taken off us (me). The 
> biggest disadvantage I see right now is that we would lose the 
> Pipmak-specific look.

I just took a look at the MediaWiki FAQ...
<http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:FAQ>
...and it sounds as if giving it a Pipmak look would be trivial, if you were 
to switch to SourceForge's MediaWiki.  Unless there's some 
SourceForge-specific detail I don't know about that would cause problems in 
this area.

  -Aidan

Aidan Gauland wrote:
> I just took a look at the MediaWiki FAQ...
> <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:FAQ>
> ....and it sounds as if giving it a Pipmak look would be trivial, if you were 
> to switch to SourceForge's MediaWiki.

That page is very long. Can you point me at the specific section that 
implied that?

> Unless there's some SourceForge-specific detail I don't know about that would cause problems in this area.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but yes, the non-customizability is 
SourceForge-specific. They just don't give you access to the files. I 
know how to customize a MediaWiki that I have full control over, that's 
exactly what I've done for the existing Pipmak wiki.

  -Christian

Christian Walther wrote:
> Aidan Gauland wrote:
>> I just took a look at the MediaWiki FAQ...
>> <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:FAQ>
>> ....and it sounds as if giving it a Pipmak look would be trivial, if you were 
>> to switch to SourceForge's MediaWiki.
> 
> That page is very long. Can you point me at the specific section that 
> implied that?

I was looking at section 3: "Changing the interface".

>> Unless there's some SourceForge-specific detail I don't know about that would cause problems in this area.
> 
> Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but yes, the non-customizability is 
> SourceForge-specific. They just don't give you access to the files. I 
> know how to customize a MediaWiki that I have full control over, that's 
> exactly what I've done for the existing Pipmak wiki.

Oh, I see.  Then what I read on MediaWiki's site does not apply.  Sorry.

Perhaps changing the look of the Pipmak just to give it a Pipmak look is not a 
wise decision, as portability may be reduced in the process.  Now would 
probably be good time to mention that the left navigation/tool bar on the 
Pipmak wiki does not render properly for me: it is placed after the rest of 
the content on the page, but still on the left side.

  -Aidan

> Pipmak wiki does not render properly for me: it is placed after the rest of 
> the content on the page, but still on the left side.

Yes, it's the same for me, And this is the same with Firefox and IE7 (but I
remeber that with IE6 render was correct)

I think that the loss of the customization of the sidebar is not something so
serious, we could change a little the main page of the Wiki, including the link
that now are on the left side. (but this is only my opinion).

Bye, 

Andrea

I wrote:
> I wonder whether it would be a good idea to switch to the  
> SourceForge-provided MediaWiki now

I have now tentatively migrated the main page over to <http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/pipmak/index.php?title=Main_Page 
 > and my impression is that it doesn't look too bad. The SourceForge  
bar at the top isn't as disturbing anymore as it was in earlier  
revisions and the lack of Pipmak-specific appearance, primarily in the  
sidebar, is unfortunate but no serious obstacle. Importing pages with  
full history seems to work fine, and I can even (manually) filter out  
spam revisions. The server seemed a bit slow at times, but I hope that  
was a temporary condition. One big advantage, apart from the newer  
version and centralized maintenance, is that this wiki can send e- 
mail, e.g. for watched pages.

Before I can do the real full import, I now need to know the  
SourceForge user names of all past contributors so that I can match  
them up with the names stored in the dump. I will contact everyone  
concerned separately.

Do not make any edits in the new wiki yet, they would be lost when I  
move things over for real - I will announce the time of the cutover  
later.

   -Christian

It does seem a tad slower, but way quicker than Nabble is, I do have a
Sourceforge account, at some point I was intending a tut around my demo, I
enjoy writing them.. I wrapped up Beta testing various apps at the moment
along with things I SHOULD be doing lol

The side menu; people would expect that anyway with a wiki

Fingers crossed to move goes smoothly :)

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With a few months of delay, I am now about to migrate wiki content  
from <http://pipmak.sourceforge.net/wiki/> to <http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/pipmak/ 
 >. As soon as SourceForge staff processes my request to reset the new  
wiki, I will set the old wiki to read-only and start exporting and  
moving over stuff. Since I'm going to try to manually edit out spam,  
that may take a few hours. I'll post here when the migration is  
completed.

  -Christian

Hi,

Good news! (Moves aside, to make room for the wiki stampede).

Regards,
  James

--- On Fri, 10/9/09, Christian Walther <cwa...@gm...> wrote:

From: Christian Walther <cwa...@gm...>
Subject: Wiki migration upcoming
To: "Content creation for the Pipmak Game Engine" <pip...@li...>
Date: Friday, October 9, 2009, 2:32 PM

With a few months of delay, I am now about to migrate wiki content  
from <http://pipmak.sourceforge.net/wiki/> to <http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/pipmak/ 
>. As soon as SourceForge staff processes my request to reset the new  
wiki, I will set the old wiki to read-only and start exporting and  
moving over stuff. Since I'm going to try to manually edit out spam,  
that may take a few hours. I'll post here when the migration is  
completed.

  -Christian

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The Pipmak wiki is now moved to 
<http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/pipmak/>. Migration went smoothly 
(with one little exception: intermixed revisions of SourceForge 
placeholder content in the history of the main page), and most of the 
history is intact. Spam has been removed as planned.

In the meantime, I have found out that, if I understand correctly, not 
every user logged in with their SourceForge account can automatically 
edit pages, but I have to individually give them edit rights manually. 
That's not quite what I had in mind, but I guess we can live with it 
until SourceForge fixes that 
(http://sourceforge.net/apps/ideatorrent/sourceforge/ideatorrent/idea/172/) 
- it's no worse than the current state in the old wiki at any rate. 
Could anyone of you help me verify this by trying to edit something 
(e.g. in the sandbox)? I can't test it myself since I'm either logged 
out and have no permissions at all, or logged in and have full admin 
access to the wiki.

Next, I will try to write a redirector from URLs on the old wiki to the 
corresponding pages on the new one, so that old links continue to work.

  -Christian

I wrote:
> Next, I will try to write a redirector from URLs on the old wiki to the 
> corresponding pages on the new one, so that old links continue to work.

OK, redirection is done. It's pretty simplistic (essentially a one-liner 
in PHP), if anyone runs into a case it doesn't handle properly, let me know.

The old wiki has been moved to <http://pipmak.sourceforge.net/wikiold/> 
and will remain there for a while in case any difficulties arise with 
the new one.

  -Christian