From: Sean E. <sea...@gm...> - 2007-03-06 18:48:07
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Does anyone use the "Iconify on Away" plugin, or does it exist solely to confuse people every few weeks? -s. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...> Date: Mar 6, 2007 10:43 AM Subject: [Gaim-forums] [gaim - Users Helping Users] buddy list minimizes automatically 2.0 0beta6 To: no...@so... Read and respond to this message at: https://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=4193797 By: franmiele I just upgraded to beta version 6 snd now my buddy list minimizes automatically when the idle time kicks in. How do I stop it from doing that? ______________________________________________________________________ You are receiving this email because you elected to monitor this forum. To stop monitoring this forum, login to SourceForge.net and visit: https://sourceforge.net/forum/unmonitor.php?forum_id=665 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ Gaim-forums mailing list Gai...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gaim-forums |
From: Sean E. <sea...@gm...> - 2007-03-06 23:58:28
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On 3/6/07, Charles Acknin <cha...@gm...> wrote: > Then I guess it's fine. Plugin's name and description are clear enough, > aren't they? You overestimate people. People make this exact complaint regularly. Every couple of weeks. If nobody is actually using this plugin, and all it's doing is confusing people who loaded it because they don't know what "iconify" means, it's doing more harm than good. -s. |
From: Mark S. <que...@gm...> - 2007-03-07 00:11:01
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On 3/6/07, Sean Egan <sea...@gm...> wrote: > On 3/6/07, Charles Acknin <cha...@gm...> wrote: > > Then I guess it's fine. Plugin's name and description are clear enough, > > aren't they? > > You overestimate people. People make this exact complaint regularly. > Every couple of weeks. If nobody is actually using this plugin, and > all it's doing is confusing people who loaded it because they don't > know what "iconify" means, it's doing more harm than good. > > -s. I actually use the plugin. However, i would not be against it if you decided to remove the plugin from the default gaim build. That is to say, i would appreciate keeping the code around and current, but perhaps making it a --enable autoconf option. Frankly, i think the plugin name and description should be enough to keep people from enabling it, but perhaps if people are being confused by the name and description, then the problem could be solved there through renaming and clarification rather than complete removal of the plugin. -2 pennies from me to you |
From: Gary K. <gr...@re...> - 2007-03-07 00:31:23
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Mark Schneider wrote: <snip> > I actually use the plugin. However, i would not be against it if you > decided to remove the plugin from the default gaim build. That is to > say, i would appreciate keeping the code around and current, but > perhaps making it a --enable autoconf option. Frankly, i think the > plugin name and description should be enough to keep people from > enabling it, but perhaps if people are being confused by the name and > description, then the problem could be solved there through renaming > and clarification rather than complete removal of the plugin. > > -2 pennies from me to you It could always be adopted into the plugin pack... - -- Gary Kramlich <gr...@re...> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF7gfVdf4lmqisgDIRAoPKAJ0T/1LbiTZUzjWvd1f9oOT7o4zmhACeKy9S C2QSl5gzgzc85o+GTj7mEQ8= =uZ+9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
From: Luke S. <lsc...@us...> - 2007-03-07 03:58:12
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On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 03:58:28PM -0800, Sean Egan wrote: > On 3/6/07, Charles Acknin <cha...@gm...> wrote: > > Then I guess it's fine. Plugin's name and description are clear enough, > > aren't they? > > You overestimate people. People make this exact complaint regularly. > Every couple of weeks. If nobody is actually using this plugin, and > all it's doing is confusing people who loaded it because they don't > know what "iconify" means, it's doing more harm than good. > > -s. This is exactly why we removed the hide-on-send plugin we had some time (some number of years ago now) ago. luke |
From: Tim R. <tim...@gm...> - 2007-03-10 05:50:32
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On 3/6/07, Sean Egan <sea...@gm...> wrote: > > On 3/6/07, Charles Acknin <cha...@gm...> wrote: > > Then I guess it's fine. Plugin's name and description are clear enough, > > aren't they? > > You overestimate people. People make this exact complaint regularly. > Every couple of weeks. If nobody is actually using this plugin, and > all it's doing is confusing people who loaded it because they don't > know what "iconify" means, it's doing more harm than good. Perhaps we need some way to remind people about such features. I'm not sure when we'd do it, maybe on upgrade. Or maybe have a menu item that pops up a dialog reminding you of the stupid things you did, and have clicking on said menu item in the bug reporting guide lines. That may just cause people to complain about the reminders, and the same people who don't remember they turned on the Iconfy on Away plugin may also not read or follow bug submission guide lines. --Tim |
From: John B. <rek...@re...> - 2007-03-07 04:49:31
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Gary Kramlich wrote: > It could always be adopted into the plugin pack... My thoughts exactly. John -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF7kRSBWJH/emdNtsRAo3rAJ9NQ21ZAc6fUm5QGWLBnh6f4qYLrwCgy7XH pKtG1q6cMGzbwenzWa/GdUM= =GT79 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
From: Charles A. <cha...@gm...> - 2007-03-07 10:57:37
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On 3/7/07, John Bailey <rek...@re...> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Gary Kramlich wrote: > > > It could always be adopted into the plugin pack... > > My thoughts exactly. > > John Although it sounds like a good idea, this does not prevent people from installing the pack and enabling all of them just like they do now with the default gaim build. On 3/7/07, Sean Egan <sea...@gm...> wrote: > On 3/6/07, Charles Acknin <cha...@gm...> wrote: > > Then I guess it's fine. Plugin's name and description are clear enough, > > aren't they? > > You overestimate people. People make this exact complaint regularly. > Every couple of weeks. If nobody is actually using this plugin, and > all it's doing is confusing people who loaded it because they don't > know what "iconify" means, it's doing more harm than good. > > -s. > When people don't know and use, it actually becomes critical enough and relevant to keep them from using those -- risky -- tools by moving them into the plugin-pack. Charles |
From: John B. <rek...@re...> - 2007-03-07 15:59:19
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Charles Acknin wrote: > On 3/7/07, John Bailey <rek...@re...> wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Gary Kramlich wrote: >> >> > It could always be adopted into the plugin pack... >> >> My thoughts exactly. >> >> John > > Although it sounds like a good idea, this does not prevent people from > installing the pack and enabling all of them just like they do now > with the default gaim build. It does, however, shift the burden of support from Gaim to the Guifications team. At least for now, the plugin pack has relatively low visibility, and most of the plugin pack users have been better than the general Gaim user population in #gaim is and will actually read our documentation. I suspect this is in part due to us not advertising our IRC channel. Since many of the plugins in the plugin pack are stupid or pointless (by our own admission), and it sounds like a number of people think Iconify on Away fits into one or both of those categories, it sounds like a good fit to me. John -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF7uFNBWJH/emdNtsRAojSAJkBXqQL1ReKuvM+Cm+TH/Ttbx8LWgCfXNMw B+YlGfi9e48c7HoBjnSeiG8= =A4dr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
From: Sean E. <sea...@gm...> - 2007-03-06 23:22:24
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On 3/6/07, Andro <and...@gm...> wrote: > Could be disabled by default? It is. -s. |