From: Kris N. <kri...@kh...> - 2002-09-23 05:14:57
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Hoping this is the place to make this request, if not, please tell me to go pound sand... Is it possible to configure Gaim to send the selected away message when on MSN? It works great in AIM, but it doesn't under MSN. This is one of the nicest features in Trillian, and IMO, the one thing missing from Gaim. I'm a fairly recent convert from Windows-land, and Gaim was pretty central to my being able to make the switch. I use MSN for work, and the ability to send the away message is extremely helpful. And if not... Is there anyone on this list who would consider writing a patch for the gaim-applet on a free-lance basis? I'd be willing to pay for that functionality, with the hope that such a patch could be considered for inclusion into the next version of Gaim. Again, if this isn't the place for this question, I apologize. If you're interested, please contact me at knewman@khaosx<SPAM>.com (Please remove the <SPAM> in your reply.) to discuss. Thanks, and thanks to everyone for making such a great app! Kris |
From: Luke S. <lsc...@re...> - 2002-09-23 05:22:45
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On Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 01:13:55AM -0400, Kris Newman wrote: > Hoping this is the place to make this request, if not, please tell me to > go pound sand... you came to the right place. > > Is it possible to configure Gaim to send the selected away message when > on MSN? It works great in AIM, but it doesn't under MSN. This is one of > the nicest features in Trillian, and IMO, the one thing missing from > Gaim. I'm a fairly recent convert from Windows-land, and Gaim was pretty > central to my being able to make the switch. I use MSN for work, and the > ability to send the away message is extremely helpful. do you mean an auto-reply? as best as i can tell, status, including message, is being set correctly. > > And if not... > > Is there anyone on this list who would consider writing a patch for the > gaim-applet on a free-lance basis? gaim-applet exits for gnome in the gtk1-stable branch (the 0.59.x series). in the current cvs code, it has been replaced with a docklet which conforms to the www.freedesktop.org standards, and will thus work in any implementation of that standard (gnome's current cvs, and kde with a patch from redhat). a docklet for windows is being worked on. hope this answers your questions. luke -- -This email is made of 100% recycled electrons. -If something can go wrong.... FIX IT! If it's Microsoft...delete it. -There are three ways to get something done: (1) Do it yourself. (2) Hire someone to do it for you. (3) Forbid your kids to do it. |
From: Kris N. <kri...@kh...> - 2002-09-23 06:00:30
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On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 01:22, Luke Schierer wrote: > do you mean an auto-reply? as best as i can tell, status, including message, > is being set correctly. Sorry, I was a little vague on that point. What I'm looking for is when someone on MSN sends me a message while I am set to any of MSN's away modes, Gaim takes my current away message and sends it as an auto-response. Just to make sure I'm not smoking crack, I did a verify of this behavior, and it works well on AIM (I get my away message as an autoresponse) but not at all on MSN. K |
From: Luke S. <lsc...@re...> - 2002-09-23 06:05:14
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On Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 01:59:26AM -0400, Kris Newman wrote: > On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 01:22, Luke Schierer wrote: > > > do you mean an auto-reply? as best as i can tell, status, including message, > > is being set correctly. > > Sorry, I was a little vague on that point. What I'm looking for is when > someone on MSN sends me a message while I am set to any of MSN's away > modes, Gaim takes my current away message and sends it as an > auto-response. > > Just to make sure I'm not smoking crack, I did a verify of this > behavior, and it works well on AIM (I get my away message as an > autoresponse) but not at all on MSN. > aahh. good. i did understand you correctly then. you do mean an auto-responce. see sean's reply, with patch :-) luke > K > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > Welcome to geek heaven. > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > _______________________________________________ > Gaim-devel mailing list > Gai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gaim-devel -- -This email is made of 100% recycled electrons. -If something can go wrong.... FIX IT! If it's Microsoft...delete it. -There are three ways to get something done: (1) Do it yourself. (2) Hire someone to do it for you. (3) Forbid your kids to do it. |
From: Sean E. <bj...@bi...> - 2002-09-23 05:46:03
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On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 01:13, Kris Newman wrote: > Hoping this is the place to make this request, if not, please tell me to > go pound sand... > > Is it possible to configure Gaim to send the selected away message when > on MSN? It works great in AIM, but it doesn't under MSN. This is one of > the nicest features in Trillian, and IMO, the one thing missing from > Gaim. I'm a fairly recent convert from Windows-land, and Gaim was pretty > central to my being able to make the switch. I use MSN for work, and the > ability to send the away message is extremely helpful. If Luke's right, and you do indeed mean an autoresponse on MSN, Gaim used to do that, but purposely disabled it. MSN users tend not to expect responses when you're away and it confuses then when they IM you and get one response back and then nothing--at least it does in my experience. > And if not... > > Is there anyone on this list who would consider writing a patch for the > gaim-applet on a free-lance basis? > > I'd be willing to pay for that functionality, with the hope that such a > patch could be considered for inclusion into the next version of Gaim. Index: src/server.c =================================================================== RCS file: /cvsroot/gaim/gaim/src/server.c,v retrieving revision 1.227 diff -u -r1.227 server.c --- src/server.c 23 Apr 2002 16:30:09 -0000 1.227 +++ src/server.c 23 Sep 2002 05:45:19 -0000 @@ -619,7 +619,7 @@ /* regardless of whether we queue it or not, we should send an auto-response. That is, * of course, unless the horse.... no wait. */ - if ((away_options & OPT_AWAY_NO_AUTO_RESP) || !strlen(gc->away) || + if ((away_options & OPT_AWAY_NO_AUTO_RESP) || ((away_options & OPT_AWAY_IDLE_RESP) && !gc->is_idle)) { g_free(name); g_free(message); =============================================================== That'll be $29.99 plus shipping and handling. |
From: Luke S. <lsc...@gm...> - 2002-09-23 05:53:08
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> > If Luke's right, and you do indeed mean an autoresponse on MSN, Gaim > used to do that, but purposely disabled it. MSN users tend not to > expect responses when you're away and it confuses then when they IM you > and get one response back and then nothing--at least it does in my > experience. i tend to agree that its confusing on those protocols that don't have a means to identify an auto responce, but perhaps we could insert some text in those cases? or make auto-replying optional for them? luke -- -This email is made of 100% recycled electrons. -If something can go wrong.... FIX IT! If it's Microsoft...delete it. -There are three ways to get something done: (1) Do it yourself. (2) Hire someone to do it for you. (3) Forbid your kids to do it. |
From: Lenny M. <ld...@ho...> - 2002-09-23 12:26:39
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This is something I have thought I would like as well, but there should definitely be some text saying this is an auto response in front of the message... Maybe when people see this they will be enticed to ask about it and we can all advocate Gaim to them...or Gaim for Windows! Lenny Luke Schierer wrote: >>If Luke's right, and you do indeed mean an autoresponse on MSN, Gaim >>used to do that, but purposely disabled it. MSN users tend not to >>expect responses when you're away and it confuses then when they IM you >>and get one response back and then nothing--at least it does in my >>experience. > > > i tend to agree that its confusing on those protocols that don't have a means > to identify an auto responce, but perhaps we could insert some text in those > cases? or make auto-replying optional for them? > luke > |
From: Kris N. <kri...@kh...> - 2002-09-23 06:08:53
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You da man! I'm going to be in Binghamton around Christmas (assuming, of course, that your email addy is somewhat close to your physical location...). You, sir, are owed many beers. K On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 01:45, Sean Egan wrote: > On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 01:13, Kris Newman wrote: > > Hoping this is the place to make this request, if not, please tell me to > > go pound sand... > > > > Is it possible to configure Gaim to send the selected away message when > > on MSN? It works great in AIM, but it doesn't under MSN. This is one of > > the nicest features in Trillian, and IMO, the one thing missing from > > Gaim. I'm a fairly recent convert from Windows-land, and Gaim was pretty > > central to my being able to make the switch. I use MSN for work, and the > > ability to send the away message is extremely helpful. > > If Luke's right, and you do indeed mean an autoresponse on MSN, Gaim > used to do that, but purposely disabled it. MSN users tend not to > expect responses when you're away and it confuses then when they IM you > and get one response back and then nothing--at least it does in my > experience. > > > And if not... > > > > Is there anyone on this list who would consider writing a patch for the > > gaim-applet on a free-lance basis? > > > > I'd be willing to pay for that functionality, with the hope that such a > > patch could be considered for inclusion into the next version of Gaim. > > Index: src/server.c > =================================================================== > RCS file: /cvsroot/gaim/gaim/src/server.c,v > retrieving revision 1.227 > diff -u -r1.227 server.c > --- src/server.c 23 Apr 2002 16:30:09 -0000 1.227 > +++ src/server.c 23 Sep 2002 05:45:19 -0000 > @@ -619,7 +619,7 @@ > > /* regardless of whether we queue it or not, we should send an > auto-response. That is, > * of course, unless the horse.... no wait. */ > - if ((away_options & OPT_AWAY_NO_AUTO_RESP) || !strlen(gc->away) || > + if ((away_options & OPT_AWAY_NO_AUTO_RESP) || > ((away_options & OPT_AWAY_IDLE_RESP) && !gc->is_idle)) { > g_free(name); > g_free(message); > > =============================================================== > > That'll be $29.99 plus shipping and handling. > > > |
From: Christian H. <ch...@gn...> - 2002-09-23 05:51:57
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On Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 01:13:55AM -0400, Kris Newman wrote: > Hoping this is the place to make this request, if not, please tell me to > go pound sand... Go pound sand, but do it only for fun. This is the right place. > Is it possible to configure Gaim to send the selected away message when > on MSN? It works great in AIM, but it doesn't under MSN. This is one of > the nicest features in Trillian, and IMO, the one thing missing from > Gaim. I'm a fairly recent convert from Windows-land, and Gaim was pretty > central to my being able to make the switch. I use MSN for work, and the > ability to send the away message is extremely helpful. Sean's reply is better than my "I don't know." > And if not... > > Is there anyone on this list who would consider writing a patch for the > gaim-applet on a free-lance basis? > > I'd be willing to pay for that functionality, with the hope that such a > patch could be considered for inclusion into the next version of Gaim. I can port my "everybody_happy" dance patch, but it won't give you that feature. Er, I also noticed that Luke beat me to this reply too, so I guess you can use this e-mail of mine as a reference to the other two e-mails that you probably can't miss in your mail client. Going to go pound sand. Have a good day. Christian -- Christian Hammond <> The GNUpdate Project ch...@gn... <> http://www.gnupdate.org/ Bowie's Theorem: If an experiment works, you must be using the wrong equipment. |
From: Kris N. <kri...@kh...> - 2002-09-23 22:27:51
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Well, seeing as how that's exactly how it works (Text sent is prefaced by AUTORESPONSE) with the AIM protocol, it really shouldn't be a big issue (Wow, listen to the non-programmer talk about ease of implementation!!!) to add that back in. I've already patched my version, and will be testing it out as soon as my WinDoze box sees fit to boot. Should someone file on official feature request? Kris On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 08:25, Lenny Maiorani wrote: > This is something I have thought I would like as well, but there should > definitely be some text saying this is an auto response in front of the > message... Maybe when people see this they will be enticed to ask about > it and we can all advocate Gaim to them...or Gaim for Windows! > > Lenny > > > Luke Schierer wrote: > >>If Luke's right, and you do indeed mean an autoresponse on MSN, Gaim > >>used to do that, but purposely disabled it. MSN users tend not to > >>expect responses when you're away and it confuses then when they IM you > >>and get one response back and then nothing--at least it does in my > >>experience. > > > > > > i tend to agree that its confusing on those protocols that don't have a means > > to identify an auto responce, but perhaps we could insert some text in those > > cases? or make auto-replying optional for them? > > luke > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > Welcome to geek heaven. > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > _______________________________________________ > Gaim-devel mailing list > Gai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gaim-devel > > |
From: Luke S. <lsc...@gm...> - 2002-09-23 22:44:44
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On Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 06:26:57PM -0400, Kris Newman wrote: > Well, seeing as how that's exactly how it works (Text sent is prefaced > by AUTORESPONSE) with the AIM protocol, it really shouldn't be a big no. aim sends the message differently when it is an autoresponce. that AUTORESPONCE text you will notice becomes part of the screenname text, not part of the message. > issue (Wow, listen to the non-programmer talk about ease of > implementation!!!) to add that back in. I've already patched my version, > and will be testing it out as soon as my WinDoze box sees fit to boot. > > Should someone file on official feature request? there already is one. we don't like the idea of sending autoresponces when there is no built in protocol method of telling the difference. we also don't like _not_ sending them. so we have expressed not-deciding by not-having. luke -- -This email is made of 100% recycled electrons. -If something can go wrong.... FIX IT! If it's Microsoft...delete it. -There are three ways to get something done: (1) Do it yourself. (2) Hire someone to do it for you. (3) Forbid your kids to do it. |
From: Sean E. <bj...@bi...> - 2002-09-24 20:13:02
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On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 18:26, Kris Newman wrote: > Well, seeing as how that's exactly how it works (Text sent is prefaced > by AUTORESPONSE) with the AIM protocol, it really shouldn't be a big > issue (Wow, listen to the non-programmer talk about ease of > implementation!!!) to add that back in. I've already patched my version, > and will be testing it out as soon as my WinDoze box sees fit to boot. Well, that's what you see ;) A winaim user sees some <HR>s and stuff... AIM has a special "Away message" flag-- MSN does not. Anyway, this can be very easily added as a plugin--I'd like to avoid adding more options that nobody ever changes and start removing them... like "Ignore Automated TiK messages" Nobody even knows what it means, much less uses it ;) -s. |