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[Gaim-devel] patch to add horz. scroll for editpane

[David F. <da...@d2...>]

Hi, I use a fairly narrow gaim window, and have run into the annoyance
that the editpane doesn't have a horizontal scrollbar - the attached
patch fixes it for the gtk 1.2 branch, and I can figure one out for the
HEAD branch if necessary. This seems to have been a deliberate decision
- I hope whoever made it is willing to compromise, as the patch makes it
automaticly appear/dissapear as necessarty. :) thanks... 

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Re: [Gaim-devel] patch to add horz. scroll for editpane

[Luke S. <lsc...@re...>]

On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 04:29:14PM -0700, David Fallon wrote:
> Hi, I use a fairly narrow gaim window, and have run into the annoyance
> that the editpane doesn't have a horizontal scrollbar - the attached
> patch fixes it for the gtk 1.2 branch, and I can figure one out for the
> HEAD branch if necessary. This seems to have been a deliberate decision
> - I hope whoever made it is willing to compromise, as the patch makes it
> automaticly appear/dissapear as necessarty. :) thanks... 

it was indeed made deliberately, instead of scrolling horizontally, gaim's edit box forces 
the text to wrap. thus, if you expand your narrow edit pane vertically, you will see more 
of the text.  the only way we could acceptably move to having a horizonaly scroll bar is if 
the behavior was made optional. 
luke

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Re: [Gaim-devel] patch to add horz. scroll for editpane

[David F. <da...@d2...>]

On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 17:06, Luke Schierer wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 04:29:14PM -0700, David Fallon wrote:
> > Hi, I use a fairly narrow gaim window, and have run into the annoyance
> > that the editpane doesn't have a horizontal scrollbar - the attached
> > patch fixes it for the gtk 1.2 branch, and I can figure one out for the
> > HEAD branch if necessary. This seems to have been a deliberate decision
> > - I hope whoever made it is willing to compromise, as the patch makes it
> > automaticly appear/dissapear as necessarty. :) thanks... 
> 
> it was indeed made deliberately, instead of scrolling horizontally, gaim's edit box forces 
> the text to wrap. thus, if you expand your narrow edit pane vertically, you will see more 
> of the text.  the only way we could acceptably move to having a horizonaly scroll bar is if 
> the behavior was made optional. 
> luke

Erm. I believe we're discussing 2 different things. I'm referring to the
"Edit Buddies" tab on the main gaim window, where it lists the contacts
in a gtktree grouped by im system then group - this is where the horz.
scroll bar is missing (the text doesn't wrap, and shouldn't). I agree
entirely with the design decisions of the "edit box" for messages, where
there's no need for a horz. scroll since the text wraps. My apologies,
of course, if we indeed are discussing the same thing.

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Re: [Gaim-devel] patch to add horz. scroll for editpane

[Luke S. <lsc...@re...>]

On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 05:13:53PM -0700, David Fallon wrote:
> On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 17:06, Luke Schierer wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 04:29:14PM -0700, David Fallon wrote:
> > > Hi, I use a fairly narrow gaim window, and have run into the annoyance
> > > that the editpane doesn't have a horizontal scrollbar - the attached
> > > patch fixes it for the gtk 1.2 branch, and I can figure one out for the
> > > HEAD branch if necessary. This seems to have been a deliberate decision
> > > - I hope whoever made it is willing to compromise, as the patch makes it
> > > automaticly appear/dissapear as necessarty. :) thanks... 
> > 
> > it was indeed made deliberately, instead of scrolling horizontally, gaim's edit box forces 
> > the text to wrap. thus, if you expand your narrow edit pane vertically, you will see more 
> > of the text.  the only way we could acceptably move to having a horizonaly scroll bar is if 
> > the behavior was made optional. 
> > luke
> 
> Erm. I believe we're discussing 2 different things. I'm referring to the
> "Edit Buddies" tab on the main gaim window, where it lists the contacts
> in a gtktree grouped by im system then group - this is where the horz.
> scroll bar is missing (the text doesn't wrap, and shouldn't). I agree
> entirely with the design decisions of the "edit box" for messages, where
> there's no need for a horz. scroll since the text wraps. My apologies,
> of course, if we indeed are discussing the same thing.

OH, we were indeed discussing different things. yes, a horizontal scroll bar would 
be acceptable there. 
luke



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Re: [Gaim-devel] patch to add horz. scroll for editpane

[Sean E. <bj...@bi...>]

No Luke.  This is for the edit tree.  I'll accept this patch.  Thanks.

-s.

On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 20:06, Luke Schierer wrote:
> it was indeed made deliberately, instead of scrolling horizontally, gaim's edit box forces 
> the text to wrap. thus, if you expand your narrow edit pane vertically, you will see more 
> of the text.  the only way we could acceptably move to having a horizonaly scroll bar is if 
> the behavior was made optional. 

Re: [Gaim-devel] patch to add horz. scroll for editpane

[David F. <da...@d2...>]

awesome! Will this work for both branches, or should I figure out how to
fix it for head as well? Awesome proggie, btw - I used gabber for a long
time, but it never really worked well for me. This has just worked....

On a separate note, I'd recommend turning on "Show aliases in
tabs/titles/ticker" by default - I almost ran off and coded something
for this until I noticed the option while digging in the source. Much
more useful on, as by definition the alias is what you want to know
about.

On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 17:14, Sean Egan wrote:
> No Luke.  This is for the edit tree.  I'll accept this patch.  Thanks.
> 
> -s.
> 
> On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 20:06, Luke Schierer wrote:
> > it was indeed made deliberately, instead of scrolling horizontally, gaim's edit box forces 
> > the text to wrap. thus, if you expand your narrow edit pane vertically, you will see more 
> > of the text.  the only way we could acceptably move to having a horizonaly scroll bar is if 
> > the behavior was made optional. 
> 
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Re: [Gaim-devel] patch to add horz. scroll for editpane

[Ben N. <ne...@th...>]

On 17 Sep 2002 17:21:32 -0700
David Fallon <da...@d2...> wrote:

> awesome! Will this work for both branches, or should I figure out how to
> fix it for head as well? Awesome proggie, btw - I used gabber for a long
> time, but it never really worked well for me. This has just worked....
> 
> On a separate note, I'd recommend turning on "Show aliases in
> tabs/titles/ticker" by default - I almost ran off and coded something
> for this until I noticed the option while digging in the source. Much
> more useful on, as by definition the alias is what you want to know
> about.

Heh...as I recall, it took a great deal of needling the [former] developer to even get this feature in gaim in optional form. 

Re: [Gaim-devel] patch to add horz. scroll for editpane

[Luke S. <lsc...@re...>]

On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 08:27:30PM -0400, Ben Neuman wrote:
> On 17 Sep 2002 17:21:32 -0700
> David Fallon <da...@d2...> wrote:
> 
> > awesome! Will this work for both branches, or should I figure out how to
> > fix it for head as well? Awesome proggie, btw - I used gabber for a long
> > time, but it never really worked well for me. This has just worked....
> > 
> > On a separate note, I'd recommend turning on "Show aliases in
> > tabs/titles/ticker" by default - I almost ran off and coded something
> > for this until I noticed the option while digging in the source. Much
> > more useful on, as by definition the alias is what you want to know
> > about.
> 
> Heh...as I recall, it took a great deal of needling the [former] developer to even get this feature in gaim in optional form. 

eric liked making people know the screenname ;-)
luke

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Re: [Gaim-devel] patch to add horz. scroll for editpane

[Sean E. <bj...@bi...>]

I agree with Eric on this... so sod off, the lot of you.

-s.

On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 20:30, Luke Schierer wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 08:27:30PM -0400, Ben Neuman wrote:
> > On 17 Sep 2002 17:21:32 -0700
> > David Fallon <da...@d2...> wrote:
> > 
> > > awesome! Will this work for both branches, or should I figure out how to
> > > fix it for head as well? Awesome proggie, btw - I used gabber for a long
> > > time, but it never really worked well for me. This has just worked....
> > > 
> > > On a separate note, I'd recommend turning on "Show aliases in
> > > tabs/titles/ticker" by default - I almost ran off and coded something
> > > for this until I noticed the option while digging in the source. Much
> > > more useful on, as by definition the alias is what you want to know
> > > about.
> > 
> > Heh...as I recall, it took a great deal of needling the [former] developer to even get this feature in gaim in optional form. 
> 
> eric liked making people know the screenname ;-)
> luke
> 
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Re: [Gaim-devel] patch to add horz. scroll for editpane

[Luke S. <lsc...@re...>]

On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 09:01:21PM -0400, Sean Egan wrote:
> I agree with Eric on this... so sod off, the lot of you.
> 
"sod off"
now you sound like robot101 :-P
luke

> -s.
> 
> On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 20:30, Luke Schierer wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 08:27:30PM -0400, Ben Neuman wrote:
> > > On 17 Sep 2002 17:21:32 -0700
> > > David Fallon <da...@d2...> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > awesome! Will this work for both branches, or should I figure out how to
> > > > fix it for head as well? Awesome proggie, btw - I used gabber for a long
> > > > time, but it never really worked well for me. This has just worked....
> > > > 
> > > > On a separate note, I'd recommend turning on "Show aliases in
> > > > tabs/titles/ticker" by default - I almost ran off and coded something
> > > > for this until I noticed the option while digging in the source. Much
> > > > more useful on, as by definition the alias is what you want to know
> > > > about.
> > > 
> > > Heh...as I recall, it took a great deal of needling the [former] developer to even get this feature in gaim in optional form. 
> > 
> > eric liked making people know the screenname ;-)
> > luke
> > 
> > > 
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Re: [Gaim-devel] patch to add horz. scroll for editpane

[Robert M. <rob...@de...>]

On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 09:06:02PM -0400, Luke Schierer wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 09:01:21PM -0400, Sean Egan wrote:
> > I agree with Eric on this... so sod off, the lot of you.
> > 
> "sod off"
> now you sound like robot101 :-P
> luke

Sod off! I can default these options to on in Debian. =)

Rob

p.s. You should all delete all but the relevant parts of quoted messages
you're replying to.

Re: [Gaim-devel] patch to add horz. scroll for editpane

[Christian H. <ch...@gn...>]

On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 09:01:21PM -0400, Sean Egan wrote:
> I agree with Eric on this... so sod off, the lot of you.
> 
> -s.

*gasp!* I've never seen such disrespect! I'm quitting to work on
Everybuddy. Goodbye!

Christian

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Re: [Gaim-devel] patch to add horz. scroll for editpane

[Adam F. <ad...@sn...>]

It does make sense, in ICQ, to use the alias and not the number though.
Do you really remember everyones ICQ numbers? (for people who actually
have ICQ contacts :) ).  I didn't see the original discussion about
this, and I dont really care cuz I dont use the ticker, but.. i know it
makes sense :)

[yes, I know I should stick my response at the bottom :) ]


On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 09:01:21PM -0400, Sean Egan wrote:
> I agree with Eric on this... so sod off, the lot of you.
> 
> -s.
> 
> On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 20:30, Luke Schierer wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 08:27:30PM -0400, Ben Neuman wrote:
> > > On 17 Sep 2002 17:21:32 -0700
> > > David Fallon <da...@d2...> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > awesome! Will this work for both branches, or should I figure out how to
> > > > fix it for head as well? Awesome proggie, btw - I used gabber for a long
> > > > time, but it never really worked well for me. This has just worked....
> > > > 
> > > > On a separate note, I'd recommend turning on "Show aliases in
> > > > tabs/titles/ticker" by default - I almost ran off and coded something
> > > > for this until I noticed the option while digging in the source. Much
> > > > more useful on, as by definition the alias is what you want to know
> > > > about.
> > > 
> > > Heh...as I recall, it took a great deal of needling the [former] developer to even get this feature in gaim in optional form. 
> > 
> > eric liked making people know the screenname ;-)
> > luke
> > 
> > > 
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Re: [Gaim-devel] patch to add horz. scroll for editpane

[David F. <da...@d2...>]

Since I use icq for 90% of my buddies, that was indeed why I turned the
option on (and was thankful it was there). I don't really see a downside
to having it on (and/or the default), since presumably for the users who
don't have aliases, it just substitutes the actual username.

On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 18:10, Adam Feakin wrote:
> It does make sense, in ICQ, to use the alias and not the number though.
> Do you really remember everyones ICQ numbers? (for people who actually
> have ICQ contacts :) ).  I didn't see the original discussion about
> this, and I dont really care cuz I dont use the ticker, but.. i know it
> makes sense :)
> 
> [yes, I know I should stick my response at the bottom :) ]
> 
> 
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 09:01:21PM -0400, Sean Egan wrote:
> > I agree with Eric on this... so sod off, the lot of you.
> > 
> > -s.
> > 
> > On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 20:30, Luke Schierer wrote:
> > > On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 08:27:30PM -0400, Ben Neuman wrote:
> > > > On 17 Sep 2002 17:21:32 -0700
> > > > David Fallon <da...@d2...> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > awesome! Will this work for both branches, or should I figure out how to
> > > > > fix it for head as well? Awesome proggie, btw - I used gabber for a long
> > > > > time, but it never really worked well for me. This has just worked....
> > > > > 
> > > > > On a separate note, I'd recommend turning on "Show aliases in
> > > > > tabs/titles/ticker" by default - I almost ran off and coded something
> > > > > for this until I noticed the option while digging in the source. Much
> > > > > more useful on, as by definition the alias is what you want to know
> > > > > about.
> > > > 
> > > > Heh...as I recall, it took a great deal of needling the [former] developer to even get this feature in gaim in optional form. 
> > > 
> > > eric liked making people know the screenname ;-)
> > > luke
> > > 
> > > > 
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Re: [Gaim-devel] patch to add horz. scroll for editpane

[Sean E. <bj...@bi...>]

On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 21:15, David Fallon wrote:
> Since I use icq for 90% of my buddies, that was indeed why I turned the
> option on (and was thankful it was there). I don't really see a downside
> to having it on (and/or the default), since presumably for the users who
> don't have aliases, it just substitutes the actual username.
> 
> On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 18:10, Adam Feakin wrote:
> > It does make sense, in ICQ, to use the alias and not the number though.
> > Do you really remember everyones ICQ numbers? (for people who actually
> > have ICQ contacts :) ).  I didn't see the original discussion about
> > this, and I dont really care cuz I dont use the ticker, but.. i know it
> > makes sense :)
> > 
> > [yes, I know I should stick my response at the bottom :) ]

Yes, it is useful for Gadu-gadu and for ICQ.  The problem with it is
that it can be very easy to have no clue whom you're talking to when the
feature is turned on.

I'm seanegn on AIM and se...@ja... on Jabber.  Perhaps you have
both aliased to "Sean Egan."  Now you double click "Sean Egan" on your
buddy list and open up a conversation.  You accidentally change the
"Send message as:" menu.  You have no way of knowing what to change it
back to.  
 
 
> > On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 09:01:21PM -0400, Sean Egan wrote:
> > > I agree with Eric on this... so sod off, the lot of you.
> > > 
> > > -s.
> > > 
> > > On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 20:30, Luke Schierer wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 08:27:30PM -0400, Ben Neuman wrote:
> > > > > On 17 Sep 2002 17:21:32 -0700
> > > > > David Fallon <da...@d2...> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > awesome! Will this work for both branches, or should I figure out how to
> > > > > > fix it for head as well? Awesome proggie, btw - I used gabber for a long
> > > > > > time, but it never really worked well for me. This has just worked....
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On a separate note, I'd recommend turning on "Show aliases in
> > > > > > tabs/titles/ticker" by default - I almost ran off and coded something
> > > > > > for this until I noticed the option while digging in the source. Much
> > > > > > more useful on, as by definition the alias is what you want to know
> > > > > > about.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Heh...as I recall, it took a great deal of needling the [former] developer to even get this feature in gaim in optional form. 
> > > > 
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Re: [Gaim-devel] patch to add horz. scroll for editpane

[Luke S. <lsc...@re...>]

On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 09:21:54PM -0400, Sean Egan wrote:
> On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 21:15, David Fallon wrote:
> > Since I use icq for 90% of my buddies, that was indeed why I turned the
> > option on (and was thankful it was there). I don't really see a downside
> > to having it on (and/or the default), since presumably for the users who
> > don't have aliases, it just substitutes the actual username.
> > 
> > On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 18:10, Adam Feakin wrote:
> > > It does make sense, in ICQ, to use the alias and not the number though.
> > > Do you really remember everyones ICQ numbers? (for people who actually
> > > have ICQ contacts :) ).  I didn't see the original discussion about
> > > this, and I dont really care cuz I dont use the ticker, but.. i know it
> > > makes sense :)
> > > 
> > > [yes, I know I should stick my response at the bottom :) ]
> 
> Yes, it is useful for Gadu-gadu and for ICQ.  The problem with it is
> that it can be very easy to have no clue whom you're talking to when the
> feature is turned on.
> 
> I'm seanegn on AIM and se...@ja... on Jabber.  Perhaps you have
> both aliased to "Sean Egan."  Now you double click "Sean Egan" on your
> buddy list and open up a conversation.  You accidentally change the
> "Send message as:" menu.  You have no way of knowing what to change it
> back to.  
>  

hence we make it so that you don't have to worry about it with person support ;-)
now if only i could find more time and make some significant progress. i hate school.
luke

>  
> > > On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 09:01:21PM -0400, Sean Egan wrote:
> > > > I agree with Eric on this... so sod off, the lot of you.
> > > > 
> > > > -s.
> > > > 
> > > > On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 20:30, Luke Schierer wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 08:27:30PM -0400, Ben Neuman wrote:
> > > > > > On 17 Sep 2002 17:21:32 -0700
> > > > > > David Fallon <da...@d2...> wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > awesome! Will this work for both branches, or should I figure out how to
> > > > > > > fix it for head as well? Awesome proggie, btw - I used gabber for a long
> > > > > > > time, but it never really worked well for me. This has just worked....
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On a separate note, I'd recommend turning on "Show aliases in
> > > > > > > tabs/titles/ticker" by default - I almost ran off and coded something
> > > > > > > for this until I noticed the option while digging in the source. Much
> > > > > > > more useful on, as by definition the alias is what you want to know
> > > > > > > about.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Heh...as I recall, it took a great deal of needling the [former] developer to even get this feature in gaim in optional form. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > eric liked making people know the screenname ;-)
> > > > > luke
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
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Re: [Gaim-devel] patch to add horz. scroll for editpane

[Adam F. <ad...@sn...>]

On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 09:48:38PM -0400, Luke Schierer wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 09:21:54PM -0400, Sean Egan wrote:
> > I'm seanegn on AIM and se...@ja... on Jabber.  Perhaps you have
> > both aliased to "Sean Egan."  Now you double click "Sean Egan" on your
> > buddy list and open up a conversation.  You accidentally change the
> > "Send message as:" menu.  You have no way of knowing what to change it
> > back to.  
> 
> hence we make it so that you don't have to worry about it with person support ;-)
> now if only i could find more time and make some significant progress. i hate school.
> luke

Oh, I didnt actually think of it like that :)  First thing I thought of
was people setting their aliases to try and confuse you, say someone
made a new MSN account and set their 'Friendly Name' to Sean Egan (I
assume there is nothing stopping them doing that - not that I have any
idea where the friendly name comes from :) ) and they then sent you
a few messages, and managed to get you to add them to your contact list.
If you accidentally poked that "reset friendly name" option on that MSN
user, and their alias was shown in the ticker, you wouldnt know which
Sean it was.


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Re: [Gaim-devel] patch to add horz. scroll for editpane

[Felipe C. <al5...@ma...>]

That's why I always tought that there should be two aliases, the local
alias, and the remote alias. The remote alias is the one your friend has
set, and the local is the one you set, obviously the local one is more
important.

I even did a patch for that.

PS. Sorry about mailing with Outlook Express, I don't have a linux box, does
anyone know of a decent email program?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam Feakin" <ad...@sn...>
To: <gai...@li...>
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Gaim-devel] patch to add horz. scroll for editpane


> On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 09:48:38PM -0400, Luke Schierer wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 09:21:54PM -0400, Sean Egan wrote:
> > > I'm seanegn on AIM and se...@ja... on Jabber.  Perhaps you have
> > > both aliased to "Sean Egan."  Now you double click "Sean Egan" on your
> > > buddy list and open up a conversation.  You accidentally change the
> > > "Send message as:" menu.  You have no way of knowing what to change it
> > > back to.
> >
> > hence we make it so that you don't have to worry about it with person
support ;-)
> > now if only i could find more time and make some significant progress. i
hate school.
> > luke
>
> Oh, I didnt actually think of it like that :)  First thing I thought of
> was people setting their aliases to try and confuse you, say someone
> made a new MSN account and set their 'Friendly Name' to Sean Egan (I
> assume there is nothing stopping them doing that - not that I have any
> idea where the friendly name comes from :) ) and they then sent you
> a few messages, and managed to get you to add them to your contact list.
> If you accidentally poked that "reset friendly name" option on that MSN
> user, and their alias was shown in the ticker, you wouldnt know which
> Sean it was.
>
>
> --
> Adam
>
>
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Re: [Gaim-devel] patch to add horz. scroll for editpane

[Luke S. <lsc...@re...>]

On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 11:07:27PM -0600, Felipe Contreras wrote:
> That's why I always tought that there should be two aliases, the local
> alias, and the remote alias. The remote alias is the one your friend has
> set, and the local is the one you set, obviously the local one is more
> important.

or you could simply not update the aliases in msn or what have you. i know winicq used to 
reset the nicknames i gave periodically....

> 
> I even did a patch for that.
> 
> PS. Sorry about mailing with Outlook Express, I don't have a linux box, does
> anyone know of a decent email program?

pcpine. eudora. netscape mail even.  i've heard there is even a version of mutt for 
windows. 
luke

> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Adam Feakin" <ad...@sn...>
> To: <gai...@li...>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 8:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [Gaim-devel] patch to add horz. scroll for editpane
> 
> 
> > On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 09:48:38PM -0400, Luke Schierer wrote:
> > > On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 09:21:54PM -0400, Sean Egan wrote:
> > > > I'm seanegn on AIM and se...@ja... on Jabber.  Perhaps you have
> > > > both aliased to "Sean Egan."  Now you double click "Sean Egan" on your
> > > > buddy list and open up a conversation.  You accidentally change the
> > > > "Send message as:" menu.  You have no way of knowing what to change it
> > > > back to.
> > >
> > > hence we make it so that you don't have to worry about it with person
> support ;-)
> > > now if only i could find more time and make some significant progress. i
> hate school.
> > > luke
> >
> > Oh, I didnt actually think of it like that :)  First thing I thought of
> > was people setting their aliases to try and confuse you, say someone
> > made a new MSN account and set their 'Friendly Name' to Sean Egan (I
> > assume there is nothing stopping them doing that - not that I have any
> > idea where the friendly name comes from :) ) and they then sent you
> > a few messages, and managed to get you to add them to your contact list.
> > If you accidentally poked that "reset friendly name" option on that MSN
> > user, and their alias was shown in the ticker, you wouldnt know which
> > Sean it was.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Adam
> >
> >
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Re: [Gaim-devel] patch to add horz. scroll for editpane

[Luke S. <lsc...@re...>]

On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 06:15:39PM -0700, David Fallon wrote:
> Since I use icq for 90% of my buddies, that was indeed why I turned the
> option on (and was thankful it was there). I don't really see a downside
> to having it on (and/or the default), since presumably for the users who
> don't have aliases, it just substitutes the actual username.

there isn't a downside. its entirely a philosophical issue, personally i tend
to agree it should be on.
luke

> 
> On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 18:10, Adam Feakin wrote:
> > It does make sense, in ICQ, to use the alias and not the number though.
> > Do you really remember everyones ICQ numbers? (for people who actually
> > have ICQ contacts :) ).  I didn't see the original discussion about
> > this, and I dont really care cuz I dont use the ticker, but.. i know it
> > makes sense :)
> > 
> > [yes, I know I should stick my response at the bottom :) ]
> > 
> > 
> > On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 09:01:21PM -0400, Sean Egan wrote:
> > > I agree with Eric on this... so sod off, the lot of you.
> > > 
> > > -s.
> > > 
> > > On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 20:30, Luke Schierer wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 08:27:30PM -0400, Ben Neuman wrote:
> > > > > On 17 Sep 2002 17:21:32 -0700
> > > > > David Fallon <da...@d2...> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > awesome! Will this work for both branches, or should I figure out how to
> > > > > > fix it for head as well? Awesome proggie, btw - I used gabber for a long
> > > > > > time, but it never really worked well for me. This has just worked....
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On a separate note, I'd recommend turning on "Show aliases in
> > > > > > tabs/titles/ticker" by default - I almost ran off and coded something
> > > > > > for this until I noticed the option while digging in the source. Much
> > > > > > more useful on, as by definition the alias is what you want to know
> > > > > > about.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Heh...as I recall, it took a great deal of needling the [former] developer to even get this feature in gaim in optional form. 
> > > > 
> > > > eric liked making people know the screenname ;-)
> > > > luke
> > > > 
> > > > > 
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