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From: Luke S. <lsc...@gm...> - 2002-11-06 04:52:44
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On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 08:32:54PM -0800, ma...@cs... wrote: > [Still not on the list, please CC me responses.] > > (Should I file patches in the sourceforge patch filer instead? It seems > those are being ignored, which I don't blame you for, because that > interface is annoying... or are you backlogged? either here or the sf tracker works. the sf tracker has the advantages of being less subject to accidental deletion and of making the patch available to others while it waits on us. we are VERY baddly backloged. all of us have lives outside of gaim, most of us are students, and have school taking up a majority of our time. so gaim is reglegated to our free time, and in that time we are trying to stuff in answering support issues, coding to fix bugs, coding to get stuff done, and evaluating patches. the patches have suffered the worst in the time crunch. > > The FAQ on patches: > http://gaim.sourceforge.net/faq.php#q33 > is a link to a nonexistent page.) > we recently had trouble with the website, and lost most of the newwer pages, that one hasn't been replaced yet. it used to bounce you to the submit new item page in the patch tracker. I'm sorry we are slow at getting to stuff, we do the best we can though. luke gaim support manager -- -This email is made of 100% recycled electrons. |
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From: <ma...@cs...> - 2002-11-06 04:39:47
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[Still not on the list, please CC me responses.] (Should I file patches in the sourceforge patch filer instead? It seems those are being ignored, which I don't blame you for, because that interface is annoying... or are you backlogged? The FAQ on patches: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/faq.php#q33 is a link to a nonexistent page.) The original configure.ac copied the perl hackery from xchat. This is more or less copied from a newer xchat. The change is simple. When you don't have libperl and run ./configure : ... checking for perl... /usr/bin/perl checking for Perl compile flags... ok checking for libperl... checking for perl_run... no ... [at the end:] Build with Perl support....... : no And after installing libperl and running make, it works as you'd expect. -- Evan Martin ma...@cs... http://neugierig.org |
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From: gabor <ga...@re...> - 2002-11-05 16:59:10
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hi, i'm using the cvs version with gnome2.... and i like the timestamp plugin a lot ( you know, the one which creates those ichat-like timestamps )... so i turned off the normal-timestamp-display-by-every-message. but there is one problem.. sometimes, when i sign on, i get some messages which are old ones ( they were sent to me when i was offline ).. but because i have time-display turned off, i don't know when they were sent... so could be there an option that for messages which are older than current time, the time would be displayed too? thanks, gabor --=20 gpg key at www.keyserver.net, wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net |
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From: <ma...@cs...> - 2002-11-05 08:08:08
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[I'm not on the list; please CC me responses.] I just grabbed the CVS gaim and tried to compile it. It failed when trying to link with -lperl. This should probably be detected at configure-time. I have a pretty stock Debian testing install here, and I know I need to install the perl-dev package, but while I have the chance I'll let you know about this. It seems other people have encountered this incongruency as recently as last week: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=1247371&forum_id=9587 Relevant output: checking for perl... /usr/bin/perl checking for Perl compile flags... ok checking for Perl_eval_pv... no Relevant code: AC_PATH_PROG(perlpath, perl) AC_MSG_CHECKING(for Perl compile flags) This is fine, and then there's some (questionable) sed scripts, but then: AC_CHECK_FUNCS(Perl_eval_pv) The autoconf docs say: # AC_CHECK_FUNCS checks for the existence of functions in the C standard library. # If found, the preprocessor macro HAVE_[function] is defined. Well, I doubt a function like "Perl_eval_pv" will ever be in the C standard library. :P I think you mean to use something like AC_CHECK_LIB here. Something like this in above the current enable_perl test may be sufficient: if test "$enable_perl" = yes ; then AC_CHECK_LIB(perl, perl_eval_pv, [], [enable_perl=no]) fi Though that is probably not enough if you need the output from Perl's wacky ExtUtils::Embed to get the proper library path. In more recent xchat sources they do: oldLIBS=$LIBS LIBS="$LIBS $PERL_LDFLAGS" AC_CHECK_FUNCS(eval_pv) LIBS=$oldLIBS So maybe you could modify something like that to conditionally detect perl. But in either case, that AC_CHECK_FUNCS is wrong, right? (It's only used in perl.c, line 405, which appears to be backwards-compatibility code for a version of perl before they got their C namespace cleaned up.) -- Evan Martin ma...@cs... http://neugierig.org |
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From: Sergey V. U. <ser...@cl...> - 2002-11-04 11:09:47
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> It is not Oscar's problem, it is the other side's problem ... let me > guess, the other side is running either an older version of gaim, > another OSS IM program, or Trillian. None of those handle Oscar > i18n correctly. Just checked - the other side uses ICQ2002. When they send me Russian - I see something which looks like 128<c<256 in iso8859-1.:( -- Sergey |
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From: David O. <Da...@di...> - 2002-11-03 14:04:19
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Hi,
THe attached patch fix some runtime gtk warnings about the use of
gtk_widget_set_sensitive() without a valid widget.
Please apply.
Regards,
DindinX
--
Da...@di...
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From: James M. <ja...@ma...> - 2002-11-03 03:58:01
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Luke Schierer wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 02, 2002 at 03:54:40PM -0500, James Mastros wrote:
>
>> Evan Doughty wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 2002-11-02 at 06:41, Adrian Dannberg wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi, I just had an idea about another feature. It's nothing big, I just
>>> wondered if the buddylist could become sortable, by Alias or by Contact
>>> or something.
>>>
>>> I think this is a good idea too, but it probably would make a better
>>> plugin than built-in feature. Personally, I'd like to see the buddy
>>> lists mix (so I can have an AIM buddy, then a yahoo buddy, then an AIM
>>> buddy, etc.) I personally like to have my list Alphabetically sorted.
>>
>> Actualy, you can already have mixed buddies like that, though they only
>> show that way on the first tab, not the second. Simply make sure the
>> group names on the various services match, and the groups will be merged.
>
> with the above mentioned exception, looking at a single group, you see
> all online aim buddies, then below them, though still in the same group,
> all online yahoo buddies, then all online icq buddies, then all online
> irc buddies.
Sorry -- I was only refering to having buddies of more then one service
in the same group, not the order they appeared in within that group.
That was unclear in my writing.
-=- James Mastros
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From: Evan D. <ev...@ca...> - 2002-11-02 22:43:24
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On Sat, 2002-11-02 at 16:28, Luke Schierer wrote: > On Sat, Nov 02, 2002 at 03:54:40PM -0500, James Mastros wrote: > > > > Actualy, you can already have mixed buddies like that, though they only > > show that way on the first tab, not the second. Simply make sure the > > group names on the various services match, and the groups will be merged. > > um. no. you are wrong. i see why you are confused though. yes, the group > only shows once. and yes, when the same screenname exists on two > accounts, the buddy_show for each sn of yours will be merged into a > single instance. but look beyond that. Oh, pooey. You beat me to the response. :) > assume you have 1 of each of the following online, having come online in > the following order: aim, yahoo, icq, irc. (the same holds true for all > examples, but i'm keeing it relatively simple). further assume that > there are no overlapping screennames, that is if LSchiere is a member of > the group in one account, it is not a member of that group in any other > account. For those in need of some visual assistance, I have a screenshot of this over at http://evan.canonical.org/images/gaim-now.png I have a doctored screenshot of what it would be nice to have at http://evan.canonical.org/images/gaim-future.jpg > this is simply not possible with the current code, believe me, i'm > re-writting the buddy list code, i know. Luke, if you get that working, you will be my hero and I will take you out for drinks next time you are in Cincinnati. :) -- Evan Doughty ev...@ca... |
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From: Luke S. <lsc...@gm...> - 2002-11-02 21:28:34
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On Sat, Nov 02, 2002 at 03:54:40PM -0500, James Mastros wrote: > Evan Doughty wrote: > > >On Sat, 2002-11-02 at 06:41, Adrian Dannberg wrote: > > > > > >>Hi, I just had an idea about another feature. It's nothing big, I just > >>wondered if the buddylist could become sortable, by Alias or by Contact > >>or something. > >> > >> > > > >I think this is a good idea too, but it probably would make a better > >plugin than built-in feature. Personally, I'd like to see the buddy > >lists mix (so I can have an AIM buddy, then a yahoo buddy, then an AIM > >buddy, etc.) I personally like to have my list Alphabetically sorted. > > > Actualy, you can already have mixed buddies like that, though they only > show that way on the first tab, not the second. Simply make sure the > group names on the various services match, and the groups will be merged. um. no. you are wrong. i see why you are confused though. yes, the group only shows once. and yes, when the same screenname exists on two accounts, the buddy_show for each sn of yours will be merged into a single instance. but look beyond that. assume you have 1 of each of the following online, having come online in the following order: aim, yahoo, icq, irc. (the same holds true for all examples, but i'm keeing it relatively simple). further assume that there are no overlapping screennames, that is if LSchiere is a member of the group in one account, it is not a member of that group in any other account. with the above mentioned exception, looking at a single group, you see all online aim buddies, then below them, though still in the same group, all online yahoo buddies, then all online icq buddies, then all online irc buddies. the only time they actually mix is when you have an instance of the same screenname in that group for 2 or more accounts, in which case all sorts of things can happen. i'm talking about a truely mixed group, where you might see a yahoo buddy then an aim buddy then another aim buddy then a string of icq buddies, then another yahoo buddy... this is simply not possible with the current code, believe me, i'm re-writting the buddy list code, i know. luke -- -This email is made of 100% recycled electrons. |
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From: James M. <ja...@ma...> - 2002-11-02 20:54:48
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Evan Doughty wrote: >On Sat, 2002-11-02 at 06:41, Adrian Dannberg wrote: > > >>Hi, I just had an idea about another feature. It's nothing big, I just >>wondered if the buddylist could become sortable, by Alias or by Contact or >>something. >> >> > >I think this is a good idea too, but it probably would make a better >plugin than built-in feature. Personally, I'd like to see the buddy >lists mix (so I can have an AIM buddy, then a yahoo buddy, then an AIM >buddy, etc.) I personally like to have my list Alphabetically sorted. > Actualy, you can already have mixed buddies like that, though they only show that way on the first tab, not the second. Simply make sure the group names on the various services match, and the groups will be merged. -=- James Mastros |
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From: Luke S. <lsc...@gm...> - 2002-11-02 15:33:45
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On Sat, Nov 02, 2002 at 12:41:43PM +0100, Adrian Dannberg wrote: > Hi, I just had an idea about another feature. It's nothing big, I just > wondered if the buddylist could become sortable, by Alias or by Contact or > something. I did that at one point but sean and i decided to post pone it untill after some other things, like a unified buddy list instead of one file per screenname so that the list can be truely sorted when you have buddies from multiple screennames in a single group. i haven't kept my patch in sync, but it probly would still be easier for you to update my patch than to start from scratch. biggest thing you'd have to be careful of is the constants in gaim.h, make sure they remain unique, and then make sure the patch still applies correctly (it probly doesn't, so you'll probly have to patch by hand). or just wait till we get around to doing it ourselves. luke > > > Adrian > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by: See the NEW Palm > Tungsten T handheld. Power & Color in a compact size! > http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?palm0001en > _______________________________________________ > Gaim-devel mailing list > Gai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gaim-devel -- -This email is made of 100% recycled electrons. |
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From: Evan D. <ev...@ca...> - 2002-11-02 14:30:35
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On Sat, 2002-11-02 at 06:41, Adrian Dannberg wrote: > Hi, I just had an idea about another feature. It's nothing big, I just > wondered if the buddylist could become sortable, by Alias or by Contact or > something. I think this is a good idea too, but it probably would make a better plugin than built-in feature. Personally, I'd like to see the buddy lists mix (so I can have an AIM buddy, then a yahoo buddy, then an AIM buddy, etc.) I personally like to have my list Alphabetically sorted. I've been toying with this idea for a while... -- Evan Doughty ev...@ca... |
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From: Adrian D. <adr...@gm...> - 2002-11-02 11:07:26
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Hi, I just had an idea about another feature. It's nothing big, I just wondered if the buddylist could become sortable, by Alias or by Contact or something. Adrian |
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From: David O. <Da...@di...> - 2002-11-02 09:55:47
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Hi,
Attached to this mail, you'll find a UTF8-encoded file for the fr.po
file. This fixes a lot of warnings during the run of gaim.
Please apply.
Regards,
DindinX
--
Da...@di...
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From: Robert M. <rob...@de...> - 2002-11-02 03:19:44
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On Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 02:36:40PM +0000, Sergey V. Udaltsov wrote: > > this isn't a problem, its a feature request. > OK. I will consider this as such. Actually, since this feature presented > earlier I thought about it as a problem:) I have this on my todo list, I have some fragments of code and ideas that will make it happen at some point. > > when gnome2 came out, the applet api changed to require applets very tightly > I know it. I've just moved my applet to gnome2 and see all the > difference...:) It's actually always been a pretty invasive part of the codebase, requiring a totally different binary, different main loop, different command line options, and a big buttload of evil ifdefs. When GNOME2 and GTK2 came along I advocated branching a gtk1-stable maintainance tree, and junking all the applet and GNOME stuff from HEAD. After volunteering to do all that deletion and work on the docklet, that's roughly what happened. > > as part of the core functionality, but it will also be agnostic to the > > environment. > Cool! How do you expect it to be agnostic and work in GNOME 2 > environment? With my humble knowledge, this seems impossible... It's actually pretty simple - both gnome-session and KDE's session manager (kdeinit?) just use the XSM stuff that's specced out in X11R6, so it's all good standard fun. I think GNOME adds an extension for an app to provide an icon for a more interactive session management experience, but the bulk of it is totally standardised. > Thanks for the comment. I agree with you that Gaim should automatically register if a session manager is present, and present the user with a preference like 'Restart Gaim at logon' rather than the user having to do anything complex like frux with session properties. > -- > Sergey Regards, Rob Gaim's freedesktop.org compliance officer =) |
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From: Sergey V. U. <ser...@cl...> - 2002-11-01 16:05:28
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> To make Gaim open when a Gnome Session starts put it in the list of > things that gets run when a new session is created. There is a setting > for this (I think in the "Advanced") section of the Gnome Configuration > stuff... Thanks I am aware of this option. I just considered it as a "last enforcement" for "bad" (not session-aware) programs. Since gaim/gnome1 was "good" a program (applet) I just expected it not to become bad. I was wrong:) -- Sergey |
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From: Ethan B. <ebl...@cs...> - 2002-11-01 15:45:27
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Sergey V. Udaltsov spake unto us the following wisdom:
> Just tested with jabber - russian is perfectly ok. So it seems personal
> Oscar's problem.
It is not Oscar's problem, it is the other side's problem ... let me
guess, the other side is running either an older version of gaim,
another OSS IM program, or Trillian. None of those handle Oscar
i18n correctly.
I have been able to interoperate correctly with iChat and the official
AIM client using Cyrillic text. Oscar uses 16-bit Unicode characters
for *all* non-ASCII, non-ISO-8859-1 text. Many IM clients (including
gaim previous to 0.60cvs) break this completely by sending
locale-specific character sets and *marking* them as ASCII or
ISO-8859-1 ... this *happens* to work of both sides are using
similarly broken clients and the same working locale. (Thus the
hideous hack that is rusconv to ensure that both sides are using the
same character set).
If at all possible, ask the person you are chatting with to get an IM
client that is not broken. I am aware that handling i18n *correctly*
is breaking compatability some, but I am not entirely sure what to do
about it. The problem lies in the fact that the compatability problem
stems from the other person's client not obeying the "rules" of Oscar,
and thus we cannot predict what sort of incorrect IMs they may be
sending.
Ethan
--=20
And if I claim to be a wise man / it surely means that I don't know.
-- Kansas, "Carry on Wayward Son"
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From: Lenny M. <ld...@ho...> - 2002-11-01 15:28:44
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To make Gaim open when a Gnome Session starts put it in the list of things that gets run when a new session is created. There is a setting for this (I think in the "Advanced") section of the Gnome Configuration stuff... Lenny |
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From: Sergey V. U. <ser...@cl...> - 2002-11-01 14:37:57
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Just tested with jabber - russian is perfectly ok. So it seems personal Oscar's problem. -- Sergey |
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From: Sergey V. U. <ser...@cl...> - 2002-11-01 14:37:21
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> this isn't a problem, its a feature request. OK. I will consider this as such. Actually, since this feature presented earlier I thought about it as a problem:) > when gnome2 came out, the applet api changed to require applets very tightly I know it. I've just moved my applet to gnome2 and see all the difference...:) > as part of the core functionality, but it will also be agnostic to the > environment. Cool! How do you expect it to be agnostic and work in GNOME 2 environment? With my humble knowledge, this seems impossible... Thanks for the comment. -- Sergey |
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From: <lsc...@re...> - 2002-11-01 13:46:14
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On Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 01:40:32PM +0000, Sergey V. Udaltsov wrote: > Hi all > > There is another little problem with gaim. It works perfectly in tray - this isn't a problem, its a feature request. > but not writes itself into the gnome session. So when gnome restarts, *nods* the tray icon does not even pretend to interact with gnome's session management. > gaim should be restarted manually. This is kind of annoying. With gnome > 1 version (gaim-applet), gaim restarted with gnome session and it was > very handy. Is this fixable? when gnome2 came out, the applet api changed to require applets very tightly interact with gnome. Gaim has never done that, and we did not want to code that now. as a result, the applet was discontinued, the gnome code was stripped out, and the docklet, which is not gnome specific, was introduced. at some point session management code might be introduced, either as a plugin or as part of the core functionality, but it will also be agnostic to the environment. luke eers, -- -This email is made of 100% recycled electrons. |
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From: Sergey V. U. <ser...@cl...> - 2002-11-01 13:40:59
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Hi all There is another little problem with gaim. It works perfectly in tray - but not writes itself into the gnome session. So when gnome restarts, gaim should be restarted manually. This is kind of annoying. With gnome 1 version (gaim-applet), gaim restarted with gnome session and it was very handy. Is this fixable? Cheers, -- Sergey |
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From: Sergey V. U. <ser...@cl...> - 2002-11-01 12:29:07
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Hello all Just took gaim from cvs and... First of all, thanks for fixing the i18n input - I can input russian characters in my locale (ru_RU.UTF-8) - earlier I saw two strange characters instead of 1 russian. But when I send it over Oscar - the opposite side sees something strange (expecting something in cp1251, I guess - I do not know whether Oscar handles unicode). Is it a known problem? Regards, Sergey |
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From: Luke S. <lsc...@gm...> - 2002-10-31 18:08:11
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On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 11:32:01AM -0600, Mark Guzzo wrote: > OK, I installed the devel rpm and now gtkspell is YES :-) > After I ran make I got an error about... > > gcc: /usr/lib/libpspell.so: No such file or directory > gcc: /usr/lib/libpspell-modules.so: No such file or directory as it says, libpsell.so and libpslell-modules.so aren't found. guess what? you need pspell and pspell-devel ;-) luke > make[3]: *** [gaim] Error 1 > make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/guzmar/gaim-20021029/src' > make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/guzmar/gaim-20021029/src' > make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/guzmar/gaim-20021029' > make: *** [all] Error 2 > > SO I soft linked the libpspell.so from /usr/local/lib. > But now I still get this.. > > gcc: /usr/lib/libpspell-modules.so: No such file or directory > make[3]: *** [gaim] Error 1 > make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/guzmar/gaim-20021029/src' > make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/guzmar/gaim-20021029/src' > make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/guzmar/gaim-20021029' > make: *** [all] Error 2 > > I looked for the libpspell-modules.so file, but was unable to locate it. Any ideas :-( > > > > On Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:28:06 -0600 > Mark Guzzo <ma...@Am...> wrote: > > > Well I was able to find a RPM version gtkspell-2.0.2-1.i386.rpm. I installd it and still after I run configure I get no gtkspell listed in the output. > > Has anyone got this to work in RH8? > > > > ^^^ got Linux ^^^ > > Mark Guzzo > > Sair LCA, LCP > > > > Citrix Administrator > > > > "Don't Fear The Penguin." > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This sf.net email is sponsored by: Influence the future > > of Java(TM) technology. Join the Java Community > > Process(SM) (JCP(SM)) program now. > > http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?sunm0004en > > _______________________________________________ > > Gaim-devel mailing list > > Gai...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gaim-devel > > > ^^^ got Linux ^^^ > Mark Guzzo > Sair LCA, LCP > > Citrix Administrator > > "Don't Fear The Penguin." > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by: Influence the future > of Java(TM) technology. Join the Java Community > Process(SM) (JCP(SM)) program now. > http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?sunm0004en > _______________________________________________ > Gaim-devel mailing list > Gai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gaim-devel -- -This email is made of 100% recycled electrons. |
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From: Mark G. <ma...@am...> - 2002-10-31 17:25:49
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OK, I installed the devel rpm and now gtkspell is YES :-) After I ran make I got an error about... gcc: /usr/lib/libpspell.so: No such file or directory gcc: /usr/lib/libpspell-modules.so: No such file or directory make[3]: *** [gaim] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/guzmar/gaim-20021029/src' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/guzmar/gaim-20021029/src' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/guzmar/gaim-20021029' make: *** [all] Error 2 SO I soft linked the libpspell.so from /usr/local/lib. But now I still get this.. gcc: /usr/lib/libpspell-modules.so: No such file or directory make[3]: *** [gaim] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/guzmar/gaim-20021029/src' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/guzmar/gaim-20021029/src' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/guzmar/gaim-20021029' make: *** [all] Error 2 I looked for the libpspell-modules.so file, but was unable to locate it. Any ideas :-( On Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:28:06 -0600 Mark Guzzo <ma...@Am...> wrote: > Well I was able to find a RPM version gtkspell-2.0.2-1.i386.rpm. I installd it and still after I run configure I get no gtkspell listed in the output. > Has anyone got this to work in RH8? > > ^^^ got Linux ^^^ > Mark Guzzo > Sair LCA, LCP > > Citrix Administrator > > "Don't Fear The Penguin." > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by: Influence the future > of Java(TM) technology. Join the Java Community > Process(SM) (JCP(SM)) program now. > http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?sunm0004en > _______________________________________________ > Gaim-devel mailing list > Gai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gaim-devel ^^^ got Linux ^^^ Mark Guzzo Sair LCA, LCP Citrix Administrator "Don't Fear The Penguin." |
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