Re: [Gaim-cabal] more smileys

[Etan R. <de...@ed...>]

On Sat, 23 Sep 2006, Sean Egan wrote:
> On 9/22/06, Mark Doliner <ma...@ki...> wrote:

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>> * I don't like the clock for awayness.  It's counterintuitive
>>   to me.  A clock should mean idle.  I think it's much more
>>   commonplace to use some sort of yellow or gray note type thing
>>   to signify awayness.
>
> I think you (and everyone else who's shared this opinion) are just
> saying this because you're primarily AIM users. Yahoo uses a clock to
> represent idle. MSN uses it to represent away. Google Talk uses it to
> represent "away," but it's client uses away as idle. It seems like AIM
> uses the post-it note because going away is the only way to set a
> status message on AIM; it's more of a "I have a status message," than
> away, originally.
>
> I'm not sure which way we'll go on this; the only reason I have any
> sort of opinion is mainly that I just really like his clock icon and
> would like to see it used. He's an MSN user, mainly, so it makes sense
> that his icons will be inspired by MSN.

I tend to lean towards the note-type icon for away (I started on ICQ, 
but mainly used AIM). I think that if we wanted to keep the clock icon 
(which I think is a good idea as it is a good icon) we could consider 
adding it as an idle icon, since dimming is probably harder for visually 
impaired people and having icons for all states is probably a good 
thing.

I do have a question about the clock icon though, and that is why the 
smallest icon size has the clock hands in different places than the 
larger sizes? I'm not sure I like that.

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>> * In http://gaim.sourceforge.net/sean/gaim2.png you don't show
>>   the protocol next to the screen name anymore.  I'm not sure
>>   I like that.  Well, mostly I don't understand the speech
>>   bubble icon next to jdev.  Is that supposed to mean away?
>>   It seems like it means available for chat or something.
>>   And actually it seems like that icon would be better suited
>>   for use as a button rather than to display someone's state.
>
> jdev is jd...@co..., a chat room. I'm convinced that we
> should strongly consider removing protocol icons from the buddy list
> and leave them just in the tooltip. Because chats don't have status,
> they get a special "this is a chat room" icon.
>
> -s.

I'm not sure I like removing the protocol icon from the buddy list, but 
I'll hold off on that until we get farther in the new icon stuff.
I don't think that double speech bubble icon is very 'chat room' though, 
a single bubble strikes me better (despite our current use of one as the 
New IM icon), as would anything involving multiple 'people' icons.

 	-Etan