[Gaim-patches] [ gaim-Patches-1222650 ] small & useful buddylist tweaks (more Yahoo-like)

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Patches item #1222650, was opened at 2005-06-17 10:18
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>Status: Closed
>Resolution: Rejected
Priority: 5
Submitted By: Gabbath (gabbath)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: small & useful buddylist tweaks (more Yahoo-like)

Initial Comment:
I diffed against official release 1.3.1 because i
couldn't get cvs to work. very sorry, but it's a very
small patch for gtkblist.c

Changes:

src/gtkblist.c -> added ctrl+h toggle for showing
offline contacts or not
-> changed the status message length to 40 instead of
just 20 (ok, 40 may be a little too much, but 30-35 is
really okay)
-> changed buddy list small icon view to format "buddy
- status", with status grayed out and buddy name bolded
if online (bold+dim if idle... if checked in prefs of
course) - very very similar to yahoo messenger's buddy list

Description:

uh, i'm too much of a yahoo user to not do this. but i
think it's really useful. i've always liked a compact
list, without buddy icons. but in small view i couldn't
see my buddies' statuses. so i did this. i also made
the status text longer because it was a bit short imho...

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>Comment By: Mark Doliner (thekingant)
Date: 2005-06-22 22:49

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I definitely don't like having a keyboard shortcut to toggle
showing offline buddies and empty groups.  In fact, I'm
going to remove that from CVS HEAD.

I think changing 20 to 30 might cause people to complain
that their buddy list is too wide, and I don't think I want
to change that.  However, it might be possible to have gtk
auto ellipsize this.

And as for showing the status text in the small buddy
list... I think this is a bad idea.  The small buddy list
should be small and simple and the big buddy list should be
compact.  From what I've seen, people who use the compact
layout tend to REALLY like things to be compact and useless,
and I'm not sure changing that is a good idea.

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Comment By: Gabbath (gabbath)
Date: 2005-06-19 06:03

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uh, text got deleted just before i wanted to send:
1. Agreed, I had no preference for CTRL+H, just wanted a
shortcut and yahoo messenger suggested that one... so CTRL+O
it is :)
2. 40 is a bit long, but 30 is really OK. It's not critical
info, but I just found myself hovering over the buddylist
and waiting for tooltips to appear so I'm guessing it should
be a little longer. Besides, lots of people display the song
from winamp in yahoo messenger and with 20 chars you just
see the artist :P
3. Agree here too. Didn't really like the bold, but those
dim icons are a bit hard to tell apart, so i thought the
text should be somewhat different too.

In conclusion, here's a new diff for gtkblist, with CTRL+O,
30 chars and no bold (aah, much better). But still, the
status showing in both big & small view should be a good
idea (actually this was one thing that bugged me with gaim
as i liked small view but wanted to also see my friends'
statuses)

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Comment By: Gabbath (gabbath)
Date: 2005-06-19 06:03

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uh, text got deleted just before i wanted to send:
1. Agreed, I had no preference for CTRL+H, just wanted a
shortcut and yahoo messenger suggested that one... so CTRL+O
it is :)
2. 40 is a bit long, but 30 is really OK. It's not critical
info, but I just found myself hovering over the buddylist
and waiting for tooltips to appear so I'm guessing it should
be a little longer. Besides, lots of people display the song
from winamp in yahoo messenger and with 20 chars you just
see the artist :P
3. Agree here too. Didn't really like the bold, but those
dim icons are a bit hard to tell apart, so i thought the
text should be somewhat different too.

In conclusion, here's a new diff for gtkblist, with CTRL+O,
30 chars and no bold (aah, much better). But still, the
status showing in both big & small view should be a good
idea (actually this was one thing that bugged me with gaim
as i liked small view but wanted to also see my friends'
statuses)

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Comment By: Bleeter Yaluser (bleeter)
Date: 2005-06-19 04:08

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A few comments:
1. CTRL+O is mapped for showing offline buddies in HEAD. I suggest leaving CTRL+H alone, as H would tend to infer (H)elp. It'd be best if you just prepare a backport of the HEAD cvs code, rather than have different code.

2. Why is 20 insufficient? What critical infomation might one miss between chars 20-40?

3. 'Offline' status is indicated by a different protocol icon (in Y!'s case, the Y! happy face with a  'no entry' type indicator over it). As this icon is not used to indicate any form of online buddy, I don't see the need for the additional hacking you've done.

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Comment By: Gabbath (gabbath)
Date: 2005-06-18 05:05

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i made online buddies bold so that you can tell dimmed idle
buddies from offline buddies. if anyone has a better idea
for this, feel free to tell me.

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