[Gaim-devel] Fwd: [Gaim-bugs] [ gaim-Bugs-1333076 ] Shrinkable window

[Luke S. <lsc...@us...>]

Below is a not-unfrequent pattern I see:
1)someone complains about the width of this or that window, and that
  the window in question cannot be resized.  In gaim, the minimum
  width of the various windows is nearly always, esp. when you look
  at gaim 2.0.0cvs but this holds true of 1.x as well, determined by
  the space required to show the menus.   Sometimes (such as the 1.x
  buddy list), by the buttons, but more often it is the menus.
2)On asking, I determine that the user is not using English for
  his/her interface.

What we are seeing here is that several of the translations, not just
german, use strings substantially longer than the equivalent English
strings to represent the same ideas.  I do not know if this is
because a litteral translation is longer in those languages, because
a literal translation is not being used, but some other choice to
better convey the same idea, or what really is going on.  All I know
is that the end result is longer strings.

How do we address such bugs?  Users are understandably upset when a
window takes up an inordinate amount of their screen space.  While
many users have a warped idea of how much screen space use is "too
much," it never the less is true that the line exists _somewhere_,
and that with very long menu strings, we will exceed it.

In English, we restrict ourselves to one or two word menus, with one
word heavily favored.  This sometimes yeilds menus that are not
_perfectly_ intuitive, and indeed, there have been many pushes to
reorganize our menus.  Still, it gives the user an idea of what is
contained in the menu.  Is it possible to simply use a shorter word
in the translations?  I don't know.

luke

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Subject: [Gaim-bugs] [ gaim-Bugs-1333076 ] Shrinkable window

Bugs item #1333076, was opened at 2005-10-20 10:38
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Submitted By: nodata (nodata101)
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Summary: Shrinkable window

Initial Comment:
The gaim window is very wide.
We use usernames instead of real names with gaim, and
this means that the gaim window is five times wider
than it needs to be - even if I hide the icons at the
bottom.

The menu bar along the top is the problem. It would be
nice if it was hidable, or collapsible.

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>Comment By: nodata (nodata101)
Date: 2005-10-20 11:34

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German.

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Comment By: Luke Schierer (lschiere)
Date: 2005-10-20 11:31

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what language do you use? 

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