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Hi Phrame developers,

Thruogh this mail I inform you that I've just
published Phrame 3.0.2 on my site at
www.geocities.com/pvstempvoort/phrame.

Phrame 3 is all about my attempt to bring Phrame to a
level that is more in par with the requirements of
complex web applications. Phrame 3 includes advanced
Struts features such as: multiple configuration files
(called application modules in Struts), module
dependent message resources, language negotiation for
web pages, customizable error pages, session time out
handling and much, much more.

Happy coding with this new version!

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Hi, I'm Ruben.

Good morning from Spain.

Greetings:

I am having problems with validating a form by the Controller.  I have
the following mappings defined:

    $mb = new UserMappingBuilder();
    ...
    # The login form for the login action.
    $mb->addForm( 'login', 'LoginForm' );
    # Login action takes a 'login' form, which is validated by the
    # Controller (redirect to login.php on validation failures).
    $mb->addAction( 'login', 'LoginAction', 'login', true, 'login.php' );
    ...

If the LoginForm::validate() method returns false, the controller
redirects to "login.php&" instead of "login.php", which results in a
404 (File not found) error.

I traced this to the following code in Phrame (file
/local/packages/phrame/ActionController.php, in function
_processValidate()):

    if (!$actionForm->validate()) {
            $input = $actionMapping->getInput();
            //forward errors back to view
            header("Location: $input&".SID);
            $this->destroy();
            $isValid = FALSE;
    }

I see several problems with this:

1. Controller assumes that the redirection is always done to a path
with some GET data already defined (i.e. that there is already a "?"
in the redirection path).

2. The controller appends the SID even if the SID is passed in by
other methods (i.e. in cookies).

3. I did not find the SID constant to be defined anywhere inside the
Phrame's code.  Is it expecting the constant to be defined elsewhere?

Am I missing something?

Many thanks,
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Hi Phrame Devel list contributors,

Earlier I informed you through this list that I was
working on a new version of Phrame, called Phrame 3.
This version is my attempt to upgrade Phrame to be
more in par with the requirements for more complex web
applications.

As from today I have opened a site dedicated to this
new Phrame version:
http://www.geocities.com/pvstempvoort/phrame/. Here
you can download the latest version, read about the
new features and learn how to use Phrame 3. Note that
Phrame 3 sadly breaks compatibility with earlier
Phrame versions due to the increased usage of objects.

Of course everything is very much beta. But..I've used
and tested Phrame 3 for some months now and I think
the current version is very usable.

Hope you'll enjoy the effort.

Regards,
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Hi.
First, thanks to all. You help me with my problem. I have implemented an 
id stack with forms-posts that works fine.
Pieter, yes, I am interested about contribute, and I think than all is 
interested in take a look into your code to see the code evolution.

Regards.
Iván Antón

Pieter van Stempvoort wrote:

>Hi Phrame Dev List contributers,
>
>I've recently worked on Phrame to enhance it with more
>Struts like functionality. In this version, the
>multiple post/get issue is solved the 'Struts way'
>using the mechanism of a transaction token.
>
>I've also included a multitude of other features in my
>version, like modularisation of configuration files,
>localisation of messages, customisable error & welcome
>pages, a new dispatch mechanism and many new
>configuration features closely mathing Struts up till
>the January 1.2 release. But...without the J2EE / Java
>overhead.
>
>I've worked with this version for a couple of months
>developing serveral applications with it and as far as
>I can see everything works fine. However, some of the
>components still have some sharp edges, so some
>additional work needs to be done...if I only had the
>time... 
>
>Anyone interested?
>
>Regards,
>Pieter van Stempvoort
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Hi Phrame Dev List contributers,

I've recently worked on Phrame to enhance it with more
Struts like functionality. In this version, the
multiple post/get issue is solved the 'Struts way'
using the mechanism of a transaction token.

I've also included a multitude of other features in my
version, like modularisation of configuration files,
localisation of messages, customisable error & welcome
pages, a new dispatch mechanism and many new
configuration features closely mathing Struts up till
the January 1.2 release. But...without the J2EE / Java
overhead.

I've worked with this version for a couple of months
developing serveral applications with it and as far as
I can see everything works fine. However, some of the
components still have some sharp edges, so some
additional work needs to be done...if I only had the
time... 

Anyone interested?

Regards,
Pieter van Stempvoort

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Hiya Guys,

I agree with Jason here. Generate a sequence number
and post it to both the $session / $_SESSION and to
the form. If you get a form posting with another
session number, you know something is wrong.

You could indeed make it a bit more flexible by
implementing a forms-in-progress-array where you store
and retrieve the sequence-numbers (now the form-ID
numbers) of forms sent to, but not submitted by, the
user. 

Now, it doesn't matter here if you post forms with
POST or GET method. But normal http-requests...
ONJava has just posted something about that, haven't
read it yet though. It uses filters (from reading the
headline) but we haven't actually implemented that.

If I remember correct though, Java/J2EE recommends
using this kind of sequence number solution as well.

Kind regards,

Alex

> Hello,
> 
> I am not sure what you can do about GET requests. 
> How would you know if it was
> the same person clicking or multiple people behind a
> proxy server clicking?
> 
> As for the POST, you are generally sending the POST
> data to an Action to handle
> form processing.  I would just add some kind of a
> sequence number as a hidden
> value in the form, and then add that to an array in
> the $_SESSION to see if
> that version of the form had already been processed.
>  If so, abort processing
> (perhaps throw an error message if you use a session
> based error queue as I
> detailed in the PHP|A article).
> 
> HTH
> 
> Regards,
> 
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--- Cesar Schneider <ce...@hz...> wrote:
> I would like to know the differences between Phrame and these
> frameworks:
> 
> - Mojavi
> - Phrame 
> - Eocene
> - Seagull 
> - phpMVC
> - WACT
> - VAAL
> 
> Cesar

I think it would be hard to get a fair comparison of all of these, it would
probably make a good article for a magizine or website if done properly.  I did
not feel comfortable with Phrame until I had implemented a couple of
applications in it.  

In addtion to Phrame, I have heard good things about Mojavi (and Krysalis,
which is not on your list).  

I am currently contributing to WACT also, but I think the Front Controller
portion of the code has not yet really matured.

HTH

Regards,

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--- Francisco Ivan Anton Prieto <iva...@oz...> wrote:
> Hello.
> 
>     I am learning to program with Phrame MVC and I would like to know a 
> way to protect system from multiple GETs or POSTs queries.
>     The problem is when one person clicks quickly over a link or a 
> submit button. It execute action a lot of times without resulting in a 
> view.
>     I want to know any php-code suggestion to keep system protected .
> 
> Thanks for your time.

Hello,

I am not sure what you can do about GET requests.  How would you know if it was
the same person clicking or multiple people behind a proxy server clicking?

As for the POST, you are generally sending the POST data to an Action to handle
form processing.  I would just add some kind of a sequence number as a hidden
value in the form, and then add that to an array in the $_SESSION to see if
that version of the form had already been processed.  If so, abort processing
(perhaps throw an error message if you use a session based error queue as I
detailed in the PHP|A article).

HTH

Regards,

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Hello.

    I am learning to program with Phrame MVC and I would like to know a 
way to protect system from multiple GETs or POSTs queries.
    The problem is when one person clicks quickly over a link or a 
submit button. It execute action a lot of times without resulting in a 
view.
    I want to know any php-code suggestion to keep system protected .

Thanks for your time.

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I would like to know the differences between Phrame and these
frameworks:

- Mojavi
- Phrame 
- Eocene
- Seagull 
- phpMVC
- WACT
- VAAL

Cesar

Hi Andrew,

Hmm, I can't remember what it says in the docs, but
you can't combine information from three forms
*automatically* into one big form object. 

There is a possibility of mapping *one* form object to
the session scope, which means you get to use that
information later in the session. 

It does not however, merge information from three
forms into one big form object. (wizard-like: next,
next, next, finish)

Jason wrote a Wizard example a while back, perhaps you
could check that out. Might be easy to reuse his code.

What I usually do, is create a new session object
(statefull session bean if you use Java lingo) at the
beginning of the wizard (when user submits his first
form) and everytime the user submits another form, add
the information from the from object to the session
stored object.

Once the user has completed the wizard, you can act on
the information in the session stored object - like
store it in a DB orso.

It isn't all that hard, but it isn't done
automatically either.

If you want to change phrame to do that automatically,
don't forget users tend to want to press that back
button instead of that next button every now and
again, and it would be nice if it were to result in a
form filled out with the information previously
entered there. You can't make that work by changing
Phrame's processForm method.

If you would want to do it, you can indeed, as you
write, check if a form object of the correct name and
class exists in the session-scope, and add the new
fields to it. Depending on the situation, that might
suffice.

Good luck!

Kind regards,

Alex

--- Andrew Macgregor <an...@cb...>
wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> The phrame docs suggest that I can use the same form
> object across 
> several pages. Can I associate MyFormObject with
> three html forms and 
> have them all feed into it, then on a fourth page
> display the contents 
> of MyFormObject?
> 
> I've taken a look at the code in ActionController
> and the _processForm 
> method seems to create a new form object for each
> action. For this to 
> work should this method check the session to see if
> such a form object 
> exists and if so simply add to it?
> 
> Thanks, Andrew.
> 
> 
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Hi,

The phrame docs suggest that I can use the same form object across 
several pages. Can I associate MyFormObject with three html forms and 
have them all feed into it, then on a fourth page display the contents 
of MyFormObject?

I've taken a look at the code in ActionController and the _processForm 
method seems to create a new form object for each action. For this to 
work should this method check the session to see if such a form object 
exists and if so simply add to it?

Thanks, Andrew.

Hi Joss,

Phrame 2.0 implemented the views with http-redirects/forwards.
With 2.1 I've tried to change this behaviour to use java-like request-dispatchers, 
which don't do http-redirects anymore. (atleast, not by default)
For backwards compatibility though, I've retained the redirect behaviour with 2.1 as
default. This is however only with the default controller! 

I've released a few add-ons that might help you here. 
Check this url for packages and examples:
http://www.geocities.com/alex_has_email/phrame-2_1_pre/

Most of interest to you will be the dispatching controller, I've added a demonstration
requestdispatcher implementation for a thing I called tphp, which basically does a php
include. I've added request/session state, but that's it.

Just look at the example package and you'll see the difference.

If you want to do it yourself, you should be able to subclass the controller and
reimplement the _processForward. The original method is quite simple, so just look at
the original code to see how it works. You should have your idea running quite quickly 
I imagine. I'd look at the posted url first though.

I hope this answers the questions you have.

Kind regards,

Alex

jos...@ta... wrote:

Firstly my apologies for posting to the developers list but it seems have a little more activity than the users list and I'd rather not email this question to some of the learned individuals on this list without their permission first.

I develop mainly in Struts and especially Tiles and have just started using PHP. I have hunted around for a PHP alternative to Struts and I think I have settled on Phrame for it's simplicity and stability.

However rather than using Smarty or XSLT I would like to contain my webapp in a single index.php page with includes rather than forwards, similar in design to the tutorial on Zend 'How Not To Use A Template System' (http://www.zend.com/zend/tut/tutorial-Darrell.php). The problem I have to create the controller in the index.php which then forwards to the index.php, creating a recursive loop. So I suggest extending the ApplicationController with MyController and override the _processForward() function with one that performs an include rather than a forward.

This seems to me the simplest approach but would it give me what is required. For example will I be able to access session variables correctly?

Any comments would be most welcome.

Regards,

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Alex,

Many thanks for your response. I did exactly what you suggested, overrode
_processForward() and did an include rather than rewriting the header, this
works well and was very simple to implement. I also went one step further
and overrode ActionController.process() and moved into it the default action
functionality that Jason Sweat showed in his article 'Industrial Strength
MVC' . I am also currently working on authorisation/login functionality
inside process() as well:

function process($mappings, $request) {
// Check login
if (!array_key_exists(_USER, $_SESSION)) {
$request[_ACTION] = 'login';
}
// Otherwise perform default action
if (!array_key_exists(_ACTION, $request)) {
$request[_ACTION] = 'default';
}
parent::process($mappings, $request);

}

Finally I have already downloaded your Phrame 2.1 examples and will look at
them, especially tphp.

Many thanks,

Joss

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Alex [mailto:ale...@ya...]
  Sent: 30 January 2004 18:44
  To: jos...@ta...; phr...@li...
  Subject: Re: [Phrame-devel] Extending ActionController

  Hi Joss,

  Phrame 2.0 implemented the views with http-redirects/forwards.
  With 2.1 I've tried to change this behaviour to use java-like
request-dispatchers,
  which don't do http-redirects anymore. (atleast, not by default)
  For backwards compatibility though, I've retained the redirect behaviour
with 2.1 as
  default. This is however only with the default controller!

  I've released a few add-ons that might help you here.
  Check this url for packages and examples:
  http://www.geocities.com/alex_has_email/phrame-2_1_pre/

  Most of interest to you will be the dispatching controller, I've added a
demonstration
  requestdispatcher implementation for a thing I called tphp, which
basically does a php
  include. I've added request/session state, but that's it.

  Just look at the example package and you'll see the difference.

  If you want to do it yourself, you should be able to subclass the
controller and
  reimplement the _processForward. The original method is quite simple, so
just look at
  the original code to see how it works. You should have your idea running
quite quickly
  I imagine. I'd look at the posted url first though.

  I hope this answers the questions you have.

  Kind regards,

  Alex

  jos...@ta... wrote:

    Firstly my apologies for posting to the developers list but it seems
have a little more activity than the users list and I'd rather not email
this question to some of the learned individuals on this list without their
permission first.

    I develop mainly in Struts and especially Tiles and have just started
using PHP. I have hunted around for a PHP alternative to Struts and I think
I have settled on Phrame for it's simplicity and stability.

    However rather than using Smarty or XSLT I would like to contain my
webapp in a single index.php page with includes rather than forwards,
similar in design to the tutorial on Zend 'How Not To Use A Template System'
(http://www.zend.com/zend/tut/tutorial-Darrell.php). The problem I have to
create the controller in the index.php which then forwards to the index.php,
creating a recursive loop. So I suggest extending the ApplicationController
with MyController and override the _processForward() function with one that
performs an include rather than a forward.

    This seems to me the simplest approach but would it give me what is
required. For example will I be able to access session variables correctly?

    Any comments would be most welcome.

    Regards,

    Joss Wright

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Firstly my apologies for posting to the developers list but it seems have a little more activity than the users list and I'd rather not email this question to some of the learned individuals on this list without their permission first.

I develop mainly in Struts and especially Tiles and have just started using PHP. I have hunted around for a PHP alternative to Struts and I think I have settled on Phrame for it's simplicity and stability.

However rather than using Smarty or XSLT I would like to contain my webapp in a single index.php page with includes rather than forwards, similar in design to the tutorial on Zend 'How Not To Use A Template System' (http://www.zend.com/zend/tut/tutorial-Darrell.php). The problem I have to create the controller in the index.php which then forwards to the index.php, creating a recursive loop. So I suggest extending the ApplicationController with MyController and override the _processForward() function with one that performs an include rather than a forward.

This seems to me the simplest approach but would it give me what is required. For example will I be able to access session variables correctly?

Any comments would be most welcome.

Regards,

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Great! :)

Some common requests for the website include the
following:

1. forums (phpbb?)
4. examples (demo?)
5. updated documentation

I also don't mind if you would like to completely
redesign the website with new layout, graphics, etc.
If you decide to do this then lets get ideas from the
list on what it should look like.

Let me know when you would like to begin and I will
send you the login info.

Thanks again!

Arnold

--- Bas Cancrinus <ba...@pl...> wrote:
> Arnold Cano wrote:
> 
> >Bas, if you have some spare time coming up would
> you
> >be interested in updating the Phrame website? Let
> me
> >know if you are.
> >  
> >
> No problem! Let me know your suggestions.
> 
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Jason Sweat wrote:

>Both as tarballs and in the cvs repository (although it looks like replication
>to the anonymous cvs repository is not happening :( ).
>
>http://sourceforge.net/projects/phrame
>  
>
Excellent!! I'll test my projects against 2.1RC1 and post my comments 
early next week. BTW: CVS replication is done in batches, so there's 
always some lag.

Regards,
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Arnold Cano wrote:

>Bas, if you have some spare time coming up would you
>be interested in updating the Phrame website? Let me
>know if you are.
>  
>
No problem! Let me know your suggestions.

Regards,
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Both as tarballs and in the cvs repository (although it looks like replication
to the anonymous cvs repository is not happening :( ).

http://sourceforge.net/projects/phrame

Many thanks to Alex for his efforts working with and extending phrame, along
with pulling together all of the work from contributers to the email list, and
packaging the tarballs.

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I'm back from vacation now and I believe Jason will be
checking in 2.1 very soon.

Bas, if you have some spare time coming up would you
be interested in updating the Phrame website? Let me
know if you are.

Arnold

--- Alex <ale...@ya...> wrote:
> Hi Bas,
>  
> Happy new year!
>  
> I've solved both issues in my 2.1 proposal code
> already.
>  
> The packages are ready to be released as a possible
> 2.1 Release Candidate and have plenty of working
> examples demonstrating all features.
>  
> I can't actually make the time to package any new
> releases or do SF work in the near future, but the
> packages I've prepared so far are located at:
>
http://www.geocities.com/alex_has_email/phrame-2_1_pre/
>  
> As always, I will make time to answer any questions
> you might have as to the packages I posted.
>  
> Kind regards,
>  
> Alex
> 
> Bas Cancrinus <ba...@pl...> wrote:
> Dear Phrame developers,
> 
> I'd like to wish you all a happy new year!
> Unfortunately I haven't 
> observed any development of the Phrame project
> lately. In the upcoming 
> period I expect to have some more spare time and I'd
> like to fix the 
> following bottlenecks in 2.0, based on Alex's
> codebase 
> :
> 
> - Inclusion overhead: only include files that the
> controller needs to 
> handle a request instead of parsing include.php;
> - HTTP redirect forwarding: handle forwarding
> internally instead of 
> generating another HTTP request.
> 
> In my opinion Phrame is ready for serious deployment
> when those 
> bottlenecks are fixed. Please let me know to whom I
> can email my 
> updates/diffs. If possible, I'd like to have a CVS
> account so I can 
> merge my updates myself.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Bas
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> 
> 
> 
> 
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Hi Bas,

Happy new year!

I've solved both issues in my 2.1 proposal code already.

The packages are ready to be released as a possible 2.1 Release Candidate and have plenty of working examples demonstrating all features.

I can't actually make the time to package any new releases or do SF work in the near future, but the packages I've prepared so far are located at:
http://www.geocities.com/alex_has_email/phrame-2_1_pre/

As always, I will make time to answer any questions you might have as to the packages I posted.

Kind regards,

Alex

Bas Cancrinus <ba...@pl...> wrote:
Dear Phrame developers,

I'd like to wish you all a happy new year! Unfortunately I haven't 
observed any development of the Phrame project lately. In the upcoming 
period I expect to have some more spare time and I'd like to fix the 
following bottlenecks in 2.0, based on Alex's codebase 
:

- Inclusion overhead: only include files that the controller needs to 
handle a request instead of parsing include.php;
- HTTP redirect forwarding: handle forwarding internally instead of 
generating another HTTP request.

In my opinion Phrame is ready for serious deployment when those 
bottlenecks are fixed. Please let me know to whom I can email my 
updates/diffs. If possible, I'd like to have a CVS account so I can 
merge my updates myself.

Kind regards,
Bas

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Dear Phrame developers,

I'd like to wish you all a happy new year! Unfortunately I haven't 
observed any development of the Phrame project lately. In the upcoming 
period I expect to have some more spare time and I'd like to fix the 
following bottlenecks in 2.0, based on Alex's codebase 
<http://www.geocities.com/alex_has_email/phrame-alex/>:

- Inclusion overhead: only include files that the controller needs to 
handle a request instead of parsing include.php;
- HTTP redirect forwarding: handle forwarding internally instead of 
generating another HTTP request.

In my opinion Phrame is ready for serious deployment when those 
bottlenecks are fixed. Please let me know to whom I can email my 
updates/diffs. If possible, I'd like to have a CVS account so I can 
merge my updates myself.

Kind regards,
Bas

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