[Phrame-devel] Actions/Forms in original Phrame code

[Tony B. <to...@to...>]

I am going back and rethinking what was said about actions and I have a 
few questions.  In my scenario, actions (views or commands), work 
independent of the controller.  In fact the controller marshalls the 
creation and execution.  So why in Phrame does the action have a reference 
to the controller?  To me that breaks the basic OO rule of encapsulation.

Now for the forms.  Why is validation done at a 'form' level?  My problem 
with this is say you have a 'article' object.  Articles can be submitted 
by normal users and also by administrators but the access they have to 
specific properties may differ.  Thus you may have two different forms, 
one for the user view, one for the admin view.  In the Phrame model, you 
would have to code similar validation logic into both forms, right?  In 
the code I built validation is just another command which is completely 
reusable.

You know, the more I think about it, the more I see remakable similarities 
in the two code bases and  while you guys where questioning 
fundamental differences in the designs, the more I think about it I don't 
see how they differ that other than in the names of some of the classes 
(i.e. semantics).

Don't read into this too much, I'm still committed to reworkign some of 
the code per your suggestions but the action object in particular is one I 
don't see a huge value in as that is covered by my command object (similar 
methods).

Also, have you thought about modifying the actions so it separates post 
requests form get requests?  I ask because it is quite feasible that an 
app would not want to process an get requests and in both packages there 
is no distinction since the $_REQUEST superglobal is used.  

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