Re: [Phrame-devel] MVC sample application

[Tony B. <to...@to...>]

Well, as I said, I will work the forms back in.

As for forwards, this is trivial and can be added as well and I don't 
mind signing up for that.

As for actions, this may be a place where I have some disagreement.  I 
have no problem with actions (my commands) using form objects.  However, 
I don't agree with actions needing to know anything about mappings. 
They only need to do their work and return processing back to the 
controller.  The controller should worry about the mappings being that 
is the key means for continuation of execution (please note I already 
have a mapping class implemented).

Again, a problem I had with Phrame is all mappings and forwards were 
loaded even though a very small subset was needed to process the current 
request.

Once I get this last bit of code polished I'll look for more suggestions 
on tweaks from you two.  I think after this next cycle we'll be at a 
point where I will feel fine with using the code in a production 
environment (which, I remind, is my big driving factor).  At some point 
we need to talk about the resulting code base.  The final state will 
look more like Phrame per both your recent suggestions which is good but 
will it be good enough for your actual approval.  Again my hopes is that 
the resulting code is a best-of-both-worlds to warrant this new code to 
be release under the Phrame name.

--Tony

Arnold Cano wrote:
> The analogy to verbs, nouns, and adjectives is exactly
> how I described phrame to developers as well.
> 
> I have reservations about removing forwards, forms,
> and actions.  They provided extension points for
> specialization if required.  Using primitives removes
> this important feature.
> 
> My understanding from studying Tony's code is that
> commands are a simpler version of the original
> actions.   This mechanism is basically just a command
> pattern with the exception that actions utilized the
> mappings and form objects. 
> 
> Arnold

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