[Phrame-devel] Phrame and PEAR

[Tony B. <to...@to...>]

Well, having been exposed to Phrame about a week or so ago I have 
involuntarily been advocating Phrame to be in PEAR.  To give you some 
history, I am a fairly new PEAR developer (AUTH_Enterprise and two other 
packages being developed, one for language translation and the other for 
sendmail interfaces into PHP apps).  By day I am a software development 
manager for a team of Java developers in a state government.

I was reading back on PEAR-DEV posts and ran across some talking about 
design patterns.  The gist was that someone recommended adding design 
patterns to PEAR.  Rightfully so, many PEAR developers said "how do you 
make a package out of abstract patterns?".  

Of course for most patterns it does not make any sense.  However, I do 
think you could with MVC.  Familiar with struts, I was glad to see a 
fairly well developed PHP implementation of MVC in Phrame.  I have one 
major issue with the package, namely all actions currently get loaded into 
memory even though only one may be needed.  Despite this problem (which is 
easily fixable), I think Phrame is on the right track.

Now the battle with the PEAR-DEV folks is some are not familiar with MVC 
and, therefore, can't see how this framework could be packaged up and used 
quickly by other PEAR packages or stand-alone applications.  I think they 
are starting to see the light but I think they will need a working sample 
to go off of.  

With that said, I am emailing this list to let you all know that I may be 
needing a bit of help and to inform you that I'd be happy to contribute 
back to Phrame if you'll have me ;-)  I think having Phrame in PEAR will 
be great exposure for you all and it will raise the bar in PHP code 
quality if it gets decent adoption by others.

-- 
Tony Bibbs          "I guess you have to remember that those who don't
to...@to...  hunt or fish often see those of us who do as      
                    harmlessly strange and sort of amusing. When you  
                    think about it, that might be a fair assessment." 
                    --Unknown