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[Phpwiki-talk] How usable is the Alpha version

[Steven M. <st...@mu...>]

Hi All,

I asked something like this a while back but since then my needs have 
changed. I've been having a little difficulty with the current stable 
version's backup policy since my requirements are a little unusual, since 
someone attacked my Wiki from two IPs and so I lost the online backup 
(fortunately I still had an offline set) and most of my visitors access via 
my University's proxy server so intermediate pages are not saved even 
though the authors are different.

I would seem that these problems have been avoided in the Alpha version by 
having multiple generations of backups and it looks very good. I'd really 
like this feature so I was wondering how usable this Alpha version is, both 
in installation and day-to-day use?

If it is OK so setup and use should I go for the latest version or are 
there snapshots that represent the Alpha's more stable states?

Thanks for writing such a cool program,
Steven Murdoch.

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Re: [Phpwiki-talk] How usable is the Alpha version

[Steve W. <sw...@pa...>]

Hi Steven,

Sorry you had vandalism problems. Right now the 1.3 branch is alpha,
use-at-your-own-risk. However I find it fairly stable at the moment.

There are no serious problems in the code base at the moment, but there
are larger changes coming so I would recommend using a nightly build as
soon as possible if you take the plunge. We've had it running on dba,
Mysql and Postgresql and it looks OK. There will be small bugs though,
like not being able to delete a page.

Do save a zip file of all the Wiki pages and try to schedule some kind of
backup solution and you should be fine.

~swain

On Sat, 6 Oct 2001, Steven Murdoch wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I asked something like this a while back but since then my needs have
> changed. I've been having a little difficulty with the current stable
> version's backup policy since my requirements are a little unusual, since
> someone attacked my Wiki from two IPs and so I lost the online backup
> (fortunately I still had an offline set) and most of my visitors access via
> my University's proxy server so intermediate pages are not saved even
> though the authors are different.
>
> I would seem that these problems have been avoided in the Alpha version by
> having multiple generations of backups and it looks very good. I'd really
> like this feature so I was wondering how usable this Alpha version is, both
> in installation and day-to-day use?
>
> If it is OK so setup and use should I go for the latest version or are
> there snapshots that represent the Alpha's more stable states?
>
> Thanks for writing such a cool program,
> Steven Murdoch.
>
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Re: [Phpwiki-talk] How usable is the Alpha version

[Steven M. <st...@mu...>]

Thanks for the reply.

At 19:11 05/10/01 -0400, you wrote:
>There are no serious problems in the code base at the moment, but there
>are larger changes coming so I would recommend using a nightly build as
>soon as possible if you take the plunge. We've had it running on dba,
>Mysql and Postgresql and it looks OK. There will be small bugs though,
>like not being able to delete a page.

Perhaps an option that could be considered is that one of the nightly 
builds could be taken as a "testing release" (like Debian) before the large 
changes go in. It would still be considered unstable, but would give 
inexperienced users like me something that would have most of the features 
of the alpha version but more stable than the future nightly builds. It is 
only a suggestion so feel free to ignore it.

Thanks,
Steven Murdoch.

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Re: [Phpwiki-talk] How usable is the Alpha version

[Gary B. <ga...@in...>]

On Sat, 6 Oct 2001, Steven Murdoch wrote:

> Thanks for the reply.
>
> At 19:11 05/10/01 -0400, you wrote:
> >There are no serious problems in the code base at the moment, but there
> >are larger changes coming so I would recommend using a nightly build as
> >soon as possible if you take the plunge. We've had it running on dba,
> >Mysql and Postgresql and it looks OK. There will be small bugs though,
> >like not being able to delete a page.
>
> Perhaps an option that could be considered is that one of the nightly
> builds could be taken as a "testing release" (like Debian) before the large
> changes go in. It would still be considered unstable, but would give
> inexperienced users like me something that would have most of the features
> of the alpha version but more stable than the future nightly builds. It is
> only a suggestion so feel free to ignore it.

That would be cool. I personally would like to see a new `stable' release,
even if it is just semi-stable.

Gary

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Re: [Phpwiki-talk] How usable is the Alpha version

[Steve W. <sw...@pa...>]

On Sat, 6 Oct 2001, Steven Murdoch wrote:

> Thanks for the reply.
>
> Perhaps an option that could be considered is that one of the nightly
> builds could be taken as a "testing release" (like Debian) before the large
> changes go in. It would still be considered unstable, but would give
> inexperienced users like me something that would have most of the features
> of the alpha version but more stable than the future nightly builds. It is
> only a suggestion so feel free to ignore it.

Yes, something along the lines of a 1.3.1 release has been on my mind.
We're at a good point to do this. (The 1.3 branch is "developmental", and
when we finish we will release version 1.4, like the Linux kernel does.
i.e. even numbered releases are stable, odd numbered releases are
experimental.)

~swain

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