From: Philip J. H. <ph...@po...> - 2005-04-26 20:57:52
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I upgraded www.hollenback.net to 1.3.11-rc3 a couple weeks ago. I think it was always in my web browser cache since then so I didn't notice a big problem until now. Page load times on a fresh browser are horrible! To demonstrate, kill your IE or Firefox, then start a new one and go to http://www.hollenback.net. It loads really, really slowly (like 30 seconds instead of expected 2-3), and actually craps out before it gets done with the page. The rendering just stops, with a broken bit of html at the end. I thought at first this was due to my switch from the Crao theme to the shamino_com theme, but I tried switching back and the problem persists. Then I thought it was because of the RawHtml plugin and images at the bottom of my HomePage, but I removed those and it didn't help. IE always seems to stop rendering the page at the same place, right after HelpfulMuttHints. A forced reload (shift-reload) brings up the page correctly. Firefox stops rendering the page in a slightly different place but basically it does the same thing. Anybody got any helpful hints here? This is a major problem because everyone who goes to my website for the first time will see a broken page. Thanks, P. -- Philip J. Hollenback ph...@po... www.hollenback.net |
From: Charles C. <ch...@ru...> - 2005-04-26 23:40:11
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I have the same problem but thought it was due to my setups (multiple layers of proxies at work, a hardware firewall and a software firewall at home). The point where the page-rendering stops is usually roughly the same place, independent of the size of the page. I use both Firefox and IE at home and I use IE at work (with an independent connection to the US, where my website is hosted) A shift-reload usually fixes the problem for the remainder of the session. Regards, Charles > -----Original Message----- > From: Philip J. Hollenback [mailto:ph...@po...] > Sent: 27 April 2005 04:57 > To: php...@li... > Subject: [Phpwiki-talk] really long page loads and incomplete pages with 1.3.11-rc3 > > I upgraded www.hollenback.net to 1.3.11-rc3 a couple weeks ago. I think > it was always in my web browser cache since then so I didn't notice a > big problem until now. > > Page load times on a fresh browser are horrible! To demonstrate, kill > your IE or Firefox, then start a new one and go to > http://www.hollenback.net. It loads really, really slowly (like 30 > seconds instead of expected 2-3), and actually craps out before it gets > done with the page. The rendering just stops, with a broken bit of html > at the end. > > I thought at first this was due to my switch from the Crao theme to the > shamino_com theme, but I tried switching back and the problem persists. > Then I thought it was because of the RawHtml plugin and images at the > bottom of my HomePage, but I removed those and it didn't help. > > IE always seems to stop rendering the page at the same place, right > after HelpfulMuttHints. A forced reload (shift-reload) brings up the > page correctly. Firefox stops rendering the page in a slightly > different place but basically it does the same thing. > > Anybody got any helpful hints here? This is a major problem because > everyone who goes to my website for the first time will see a broken > page. > > Thanks, > P. > -- > Philip J. Hollenback > ph...@po... > www.hollenback.net |
From: Joel U. <uck...@no...> - 2005-04-26 23:59:43
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Thus spake "Charles Corrigan": > I have the same problem but thought it was due to my setups (multiple layers > of proxies at work, a hardware firewall and a software > firewall at home). The point where the page-rendering stops is usually roughl > y the same place, independent of the size of the page. > I use both Firefox and IE at home and I use IE at work (with an independent c > onnection to the US, where my website is hosted) > > A shift-reload usually fixes the problem for the remainder of the session. > > Regards, > Charles The next time that happens, check your web server logs to see if a PHP error was generated that isn't being displayed. My money is on this being an out- of-memory problem, and it works the second time because the wiki is able to fish some of what it needs out of the cache. |
From: Philip J. H. <ph...@po...> - 2005-04-27 01:03:45
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I just checked the server logs and there isn't anything there. Your idea about php running out of memory makes a lot of sense, though. Is there any other debugging I can turn on? Thanks, P. On 04/26/05, Joel Uckelman wrote: > Thus spake "Charles Corrigan": > > I have the same problem but thought it was due to my setups (multiple layers > > of proxies at work, a hardware firewall and a software > > firewall at home). The point where the page-rendering stops is usually roughl > > y the same place, independent of the size of the page. > > I use both Firefox and IE at home and I use IE at work (with an independent c > > onnection to the US, where my website is hosted) > > > > A shift-reload usually fixes the problem for the remainder of the session. > > > > Regards, > > Charles > > The next time that happens, check your web server logs to see if a PHP error > was generated that isn't being displayed. My money is on this being an out- > of-memory problem, and it works the second time because the wiki is able to > fish some of what it needs out of the cache. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tell us your software development plans! > Take this survey and enter to win a one-year sub to SourceForge.net > Plus IDC's 2005 look-ahead and a copy of this survey > Click here to start! http://www.idcswdc.com/cgi-bin/survey?id=105hix > _______________________________________________ > Phpwiki-talk mailing list > Php...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpwiki-talk > -- Philip J. Hollenback www.hollenback.net |
From: Joel U. <uck...@no...> - 2005-04-27 01:51:51
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Thus spake "Philip J. Hollenback": > I just checked the server logs and there isn't anything there. Your > idea about php running out of memory makes a lot of sense, though. Is > there any other debugging I can turn on? > > Thanks, > P. Hmm. You could try setting DEBUG = 2 in the wiki's config.ini, and see if any new errors pop up. In your browser, check the source of the html returned when a page hangs. Is it cut off, or properly closed (i.e., does it end with a </html>)? |
From: Philip J. H. <ph...@po...> - 2005-04-27 02:35:42
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No, the html is cut off after a tag, the page is not properly closed. I tried setting DEBUG=2, no better error messages. P. On 04/26/05, Joel Uckelman wrote: > Thus spake "Philip J. Hollenback": > > I just checked the server logs and there isn't anything there. Your > > idea about php running out of memory makes a lot of sense, though. Is > > there any other debugging I can turn on? > > > > Thanks, > > P. > > Hmm. You could try setting DEBUG = 2 in the wiki's config.ini, and see if > any new errors pop up. > > In your browser, check the source of the html returned when a page hangs. > Is it cut off, or properly closed (i.e., does it end with a </html>)? > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tell us your software development plans! > Take this survey and enter to win a one-year sub to SourceForge.net > Plus IDC's 2005 look-ahead and a copy of this survey > Click here to start! http://www.idcswdc.com/cgi-bin/survey?id=105hix > _______________________________________________ > Phpwiki-talk mailing list > Php...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpwiki-talk > -- Philip J. Hollenback www.hollenback.net |
From: Joel U. <uck...@no...> - 2005-04-27 03:03:55
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Thus spake "Philip J. Hollenback": > No, the html is cut off after a tag, the page is not properly closed. > > I tried setting DEBUG=2, no better error messages. > > P. Not to belabor the point, but you're positive that there's nothing in the error log for your web server? The script isn't supposed to end without either 1) closing the html document, 2) printing an error (and even then the document gets closed), or 3) PHP chokes and spits out something to the server's error log. If one of those things isn't happening, then we have a unintentional exit point. Aggravating as it is, if it were my installation, at this point I'd start adding print statements to try to pin down how far execution gets. |
From: Reini U. <ru...@x-...> - 2005-04-27 06:20:03
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Philip J. Hollenback schrieb: > I upgraded www.hollenback.net to 1.3.11-rc3 a couple weeks ago. I think > it was always in my web browser cache since then so I didn't notice a > big problem until now. > > Page load times on a fresh browser are horrible! To demonstrate, kill > your IE or Firefox, then start a new one and go to > http://www.hollenback.net. It loads really, really slowly (like 30 > seconds instead of expected 2-3), and actually craps out before it gets > done with the page. The rendering just stops, with a broken bit of html > at the end. I remember having that problem at sf.net and some other servers due to some weird apache directive problems. I don't know where it spent its time, but fixing the .htaccess rewriter, proxy settings, and redirector did help. -- Reini Urban http://xarch.tu-graz.ac.at/home/rurban/ http://phpwiki.org/ |
From: Stefan <son...@ba...> - 2005-04-27 07:47:36
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Hello, did you solve your problem because it loads within a maximum of 5 seconds. and other pages within 2 seconds. This seems to be ok. (Firefox 1.03) Regards Stefan Philip J. Hollenback schrieb: >I upgraded www.hollenback.net to 1.3.11-rc3 a couple weeks ago. I think >it was always in my web browser cache since then so I didn't notice a >big problem until now. > >Page load times on a fresh browser are horrible! To demonstrate, kill >your IE or Firefox, then start a new one and go to >http://www.hollenback.net. It loads really, really slowly (like 30 >seconds instead of expected 2-3), and actually craps out before it gets >done with the page. The rendering just stops, with a broken bit of html >at the end. > >I thought at first this was due to my switch from the Crao theme to the >shamino_com theme, but I tried switching back and the problem persists. >Then I thought it was because of the RawHtml plugin and images at the >bottom of my HomePage, but I removed those and it didn't help. > >IE always seems to stop rendering the page at the same place, right >after HelpfulMuttHints. A forced reload (shift-reload) brings up the >page correctly. Firefox stops rendering the page in a slightly >different place but basically it does the same thing. > >Anybody got any helpful hints here? This is a major problem because >everyone who goes to my website for the first time will see a broken >page. > >Thanks, >P. >-- >Philip J. Hollenback >ph...@po... >www.hollenback.net > > > >------------------------------------------------------- >SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tell us your software development plans! >Take this survey and enter to win a one-year sub to SourceForge.net >Plus IDC's 2005 look-ahead and a copy of this survey >Click here to start! http://www.idcswdc.com/cgi-bin/survey?id=105hix >_______________________________________________ >Phpwiki-talk mailing list >Php...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpwiki-talk > > > > |
From: Philip J. H. <ph...@po...> - 2005-04-27 12:10:42
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I changed my theme back to default. Initially after I did that the pages were failing to load completely. However, the problem seemed to go away an hour later when I checked again (theme still ste to default). So maybe it is theme-related? I'm confused now. I know that at one point I saw the problem under default, Crao, and shamino_com. My gut feeling is there is some sort of memory-related constraint that my wiki is close to, and it is sometimes hitting it. Perhaps since the default themem is simpler it doesn't hit it as often? P. On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:47:28 +0200, "Stefan" <son...@ba...> said: > Hello, > > did you solve your problem because it loads within a maximum of 5 > seconds. and other pages within 2 seconds. > This seems to be ok. (Firefox 1.03) > > Regards Stefan > > > Philip J. Hollenback schrieb: > > >I upgraded www.hollenback.net to 1.3.11-rc3 a couple weeks ago. I think > >it was always in my web browser cache since then so I didn't notice a > >big problem until now. > > > >Page load times on a fresh browser are horrible! To demonstrate, kill > >your IE or Firefox, then start a new one and go to > >http://www.hollenback.net. It loads really, really slowly (like 30 > >seconds instead of expected 2-3), and actually craps out before it gets > >done with the page. The rendering just stops, with a broken bit of html > >at the end. > > > >I thought at first this was due to my switch from the Crao theme to the > >shamino_com theme, but I tried switching back and the problem persists. > >Then I thought it was because of the RawHtml plugin and images at the > >bottom of my HomePage, but I removed those and it didn't help. > > > >IE always seems to stop rendering the page at the same place, right > >after HelpfulMuttHints. A forced reload (shift-reload) brings up the > >page correctly. Firefox stops rendering the page in a slightly > >different place but basically it does the same thing. > > > >Anybody got any helpful hints here? This is a major problem because > >everyone who goes to my website for the first time will see a broken > >page. > > > >Thanks, > >P. > >-- > >Philip J. Hollenback > >ph...@po... > >www.hollenback.net > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------- > >SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tell us your software development plans! > >Take this survey and enter to win a one-year sub to SourceForge.net > >Plus IDC's 2005 look-ahead and a copy of this survey > >Click here to start! http://www.idcswdc.com/cgi-bin/survey?id=105hix > >_______________________________________________ > >Phpwiki-talk mailing list > >Php...@li... > >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpwiki-talk > > > > > > > > > > -- Philip J. Hollenback ph...@po... www.hollenback.net |
From: Philip J. H. <ph...@po...> - 2005-04-27 12:23:40
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Hmmm, now the problem is back. The HomePage loads quickly now, but it still doesn't load completely. I tested the following: konqueror 3.1.4 on fedora core 1 firefox 1.0 on fc1 firefox 1.0 on win2000 ie 6 on win 2000 Results were exactly the same iwth all os/browser combinations: HomePage stops loading at just about the end of the page, on exactly the same character (my last name at the bottom of the page gets truncated to Hollenbac). So whereas loading the HomePage was really slow before and part of the page was cut off, loading HomePage now is pretty fast and less of the page is cut off. Interesting point: this _only_ happens with HomePage. All the other pages load fine. Now that is baffling. P. On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:47:28 +0200, "Stefan" <sonstiges@bayern- mail.de> said: > Hello, > > did you solve your problem because it loads within a maximum of 5 > seconds. and other pages within 2 seconds. This seems to be ok. > (Firefox 1.03) > > Regards Stefan > > > Philip J. Hollenback schrieb: > > >I upgraded www.hollenback.net to 1.3.11-rc3 a couple weeks ago. I > >think it was always in my web browser cache since then so I didn't > >notice a big problem until now. > > > >Page load times on a fresh browser are horrible! To demonstrate, > >kill your IE or Firefox, then start a new one and go to > >http://www.hollenback.net. It loads really, really slowly (like 30 > >seconds instead of expected 2-3), and actually craps out before it > >gets done with the page. The rendering just stops, with a broken bit > >of html at the end. > > > >I thought at first this was due to my switch from the Crao theme to > >the shamino_com theme, but I tried switching back and the problem > >persists. Then I thought it was because of the RawHtml plugin and > >images at the bottom of my HomePage, but I removed those and it > >didn't help. > > > >IE always seems to stop rendering the page at the same place, right > >after HelpfulMuttHints. A forced reload (shift-reload) brings up the > >page correctly. Firefox stops rendering the page in a slightly > >different place but basically it does the same thing. > > > >Anybody got any helpful hints here? This is a major problem > >because everyone who goes to my website for the first time will see > >a broken page. > > > >Thanks, > >P. > >-- > >Philip J. Hollenback ph...@po... www.hollenback.net > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------- > >SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tell us your software development > >plans! Take this survey and enter to win a one-year sub to > >SourceForge.net Plus IDC's 2005 look-ahead and a copy of this survey > >Click here to start! http://www.idcswdc.com/cgi-bin/survey?id=105hix > >_______________________________________________ > >Phpwiki-talk mailing list Php...@li... > >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpwiki-talk > > > > > > > > > > -- Philip J. Hollenback ph...@po... www.hollenback.net |
From: Stefan <son...@ba...> - 2005-04-27 13:43:04
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Hmm seems to be strange, i tested one hour later and it works fine again ... I'am also using the 1.3.11 with default theme like yours and about 11.000 pages and a lot of traffic but it runs fine. I'am using it with a mysql backend. Did you looked at your memory and cpu of your server? It also can be a problem of your internet connection and the mtu size. Has someone else tested your problem at the same time? Regards Stefan Philip J. Hollenback schrieb: >Hmmm, now the problem is back. The HomePage loads quickly now, but it >still doesn't load completely. I tested the following: > >konqueror 3.1.4 on fedora core 1 >firefox 1.0 on fc1 >firefox 1.0 on win2000 >ie 6 on win 2000 > >Results were exactly the same iwth all os/browser combinations: HomePage >stops loading at just about the end of the page, on exactly the same >character (my last name at the bottom of the page gets truncated to >Hollenbac). > >So whereas loading the HomePage was really slow before and part of the >page was cut off, loading HomePage now is pretty fast and less of the >page is cut off. > >Interesting point: this _only_ happens with HomePage. All the other >pages load fine. Now that is baffling. > >P. > >On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:47:28 +0200, "Stefan" <sonstiges@bayern- >mail.de> said: > > >>Hello, >> >>did you solve your problem because it loads within a maximum of 5 >>seconds. and other pages within 2 seconds. This seems to be ok. >>(Firefox 1.03) >> >>Regards Stefan >> >> >>Philip J. Hollenback schrieb: >> >> >> >>>I upgraded www.hollenback.net to 1.3.11-rc3 a couple weeks ago. I >>>think it was always in my web browser cache since then so I didn't >>>notice a big problem until now. >>> >>>Page load times on a fresh browser are horrible! To demonstrate, >>>kill your IE or Firefox, then start a new one and go to >>>http://www.hollenback.net. It loads really, really slowly (like 30 >>>seconds instead of expected 2-3), and actually craps out before it >>>gets done with the page. The rendering just stops, with a broken bit >>>of html at the end. >>> >>>I thought at first this was due to my switch from the Crao theme to >>>the shamino_com theme, but I tried switching back and the problem >>>persists. Then I thought it was because of the RawHtml plugin and >>>images at the bottom of my HomePage, but I removed those and it >>>didn't help. >>> >>>IE always seems to stop rendering the page at the same place, right >>>after HelpfulMuttHints. A forced reload (shift-reload) brings up the >>>page correctly. Firefox stops rendering the page in a slightly >>>different place but basically it does the same thing. >>> >>>Anybody got any helpful hints here? This is a major problem >>>because everyone who goes to my website for the first time will see >>>a broken page. >>> >>>Thanks, >>>P. >>>-- >>>Philip J. Hollenback ph...@po... www.hollenback.net >>> >>> >>> >>>------------------------------------------------------- >>>SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tell us your software development >>>plans! Take this survey and enter to win a one-year sub to >>>SourceForge.net Plus IDC's 2005 look-ahead and a copy of this survey >>>Click here to start! http://www.idcswdc.com/cgi-bin/survey?id=105hix >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Phpwiki-talk mailing list Php...@li... >>>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpwiki-talk >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >-- >Philip J. Hollenback >ph...@po... >www.hollenback.net > > > > > |