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[Phpwiki-talk] Interwiki map extension for visually friendlier links?

[Dan F. <dfr...@cs...>]

Folks,

I want to enable the creation of user-friendly lists of restaurants, 
like "my top 10 favorites". I also want that those restaurants have a 
clear owner (perhaps optional), and a list 'type' (like "favorite").

Thus, the owner and type need to

a) be computer-parsable (i.e. I can parse it out of the page)
b) show up visually nice

It felt to me like the interwiki-map-style URLs are very close to this, 
but I'd also like to control the look and feel of the link in the map. 
So, right now, if I define a line in InterWikiMap

  ListOwner http:/index.php/ShowLists?user=%s

and put a link on a page

ListOwner:DanFr

it will nicely redirect that link to a plugin (if I write one, which I 
haven't).

However, I don't want to see "ListOwner:DanFr" on the rendered page, I 
want to see

  Click to see DanFr's other lists.

or something, which is all clickable.

so I thought about trying to expand the InterWikiMap syntax to something 
like

  ListOwner http:/index.php/ShowLists?user=%s Click to see %s's other lists

where all stuff after the 2nd column is the "display" of the link (if 
present).

I can actually see using this quite a bit, because we are having an 
increasing number of situations where we want simple machine-parseable 
attributes on a page (like "ListOwner", "ListType", "Buddies:", etc. 
etc.), but we'd like it to look friendlier.

Is that a good idea? Is there a better way?

If it is a good idea, what are the right places to look at doing this? I 
looked a little at InlineParser.php around LinkBracketLink line 365 
(which is where it says getInterwikiMap()). Is this where all the 
Interwiki magic happens? If no answer here, I will pursue this myself 
next week, but I thought someone might have hints.

Thanks for your attention.

Dan

Re: [Phpwiki-talk] Interwiki map extension for visually friendlier links?

[Dan F. <dfr...@cs...>]

Dan Frankowski wrote:

> Folks,
>
> I want to enable the creation of user-friendly lists of restaurants, 
> like "my top 10 favorites". I also want that those restaurants have a 
> clear owner (perhaps optional), and a list 'type' (like "favorite").
>
> Thus, the owner and type need to
>
> a) be computer-parsable (i.e. I can parse it out of the page)
> b) show up visually nice
>
> It felt to me like the interwiki-map-style URLs are very close to 
> this, but I'd also like to control the look and feel of the link in 
> the map. So, right now, if I define a line in InterWikiMap
>
>  ListOwner http:/index.php/ShowLists?user=%s
>
> and put a link on a page
>
> ListOwner:DanFr
>
> it will nicely redirect that link to a plugin (if I write one, which I 
> haven't).
>
> However, I don't want to see "ListOwner:DanFr" on the rendered page, I 
> want to see
>
>  Click to see DanFr's other lists.
>
> or something, which is all clickable.
>
> so I thought about trying to expand the InterWikiMap syntax to 
> something like
>
>  ListOwner http:/index.php/ShowLists?user=%s Click to see %s's other 
> lists
>
> where all stuff after the 2nd column is the "display" of the link (if 
> present).
>
> I can actually see using this quite a bit, because we are having an 
> increasing number of situations where we want simple machine-parseable 
> attributes on a page (like "ListOwner", "ListType", "Buddies:", etc. 
> etc.), but we'd like it to look friendlier.
>
> Is that a good idea? Is there a better way?
>
> If it is a good idea, what are the right places to look at doing this? 
> I looked a little at InlineParser.php around LinkBracketLink line 365 
> (which is where it says getInterwikiMap()). Is this where all the 
> Interwiki magic happens? If no answer here, I will pursue this myself 
> next week, but I thought someone might have hints.
>
> Thanks for your attention.
>
> Dan


Hmm, already thought of two subtleties.

a) I might want "other lists" to go to the lists, and "DanFr" to go to 
DanFr. This would argue against the whole thing being clickable.

b) My user might really want

  Click to see Dan Frankowski's other lists.

in which case I'd have to do some sort of a lookup there.

Maybe a plugin is more suitable?

It's just that

<?plugin ListOwner owner=DanFr ?>

seems so much less simple than

ListOwner:DanFr

Dan

Re: [Phpwiki-talk] Interwiki map extension for visually friendlier links?

[Reini U. <ru...@x-...>]

Dan Frankowski schrieb:
> I want to enable the creation of user-friendly lists of restaurants, 
> like "my top 10 favorites". I also want that those restaurants have a 
> clear owner (perhaps optional), and a list 'type' (like "favorite").
> 
> Thus, the owner and type need to
> 
> a) be computer-parsable (i.e. I can parse it out of the page)
> b) show up visually nice
> 
> It felt to me like the interwiki-map-style URLs are very close to this, 
> but I'd also like to control the look and feel of the link in the map. 
> So, right now, if I define a line in InterWikiMap
> 
>  ListOwner http:/index.php/ShowLists?user=%s
> 
> and put a link on a page
> 
> ListOwner:DanFr
> 
> it will nicely redirect that link to a plugin (if I write one, which I 
> haven't).
> 
> However, I don't want to see "ListOwner:DanFr" on the rendered page, I 
> want to see
> 
>  Click to see DanFr's other lists.
> 
> or something, which is all clickable.
> 
> so I thought about trying to expand the InterWikiMap syntax to something 
> like
> 
>  ListOwner http:/index.php/ShowLists?user=%s Click to see %s's other lists
> 
> where all stuff after the 2nd column is the "display" of the link (if 
> present).
> 
> I can actually see using this quite a bit, because we are having an 
> increasing number of situations where we want simple machine-parseable 
> attributes on a page (like "ListOwner", "ListType", "Buddies:", etc. 
> etc.), but we'd like it to look friendlier.
> 
> Is that a good idea? Is there a better way?

CSS and javascript tricks could also render the link differently.
See the monobook theme, which changes a lot of links.

We have e.g. this in main.css:
#bodyContent a[href ^="http://"],
#bodyContent a[href ^="gopher://"] {
     background: url("images/url.png") center right no-repeat;
     padding-right: 13px;
}

> If it is a good idea, what are the right places to look at doing this? I 
> looked a little at InlineParser.php around LinkBracketLink line 365 
> (which is where it says getInterwikiMap()). Is this where all the 
> Interwiki magic happens? If no answer here, I will pursue this myself 
> next week, but I thought someone might have hints.

In PageType.php:PageType_interwikimap the map is read.
In various locations in InlineParser.php the (huge) interwiki regex is 
checked.
The most likely usage is class Markup_interwiki.
bracket links are normally not used for interwiki maps.
-- 
Reini Urban
http://xarch.tu-graz.ac.at/home/rurban/