phpwiki-talk

[Phpwiki-talk] More features (me too)

[Reini U. <ru...@x-...>]

I seem to like postnuke's features.

Here's a list of plugins I'm currently working on:

WhoIsOnline mode=summary|detail
* Show summary information of the current user sessions.
  (useful only with USE_DB_SESSION)
* Formatting and idea borrowed from postnuke.

WikiForum
* This plugin handles a threaded list of comments/news associated with a
* particular page (one page per topic) and provides an input form for
* adding new comments.
*
*   <?plugin WikiForum info=title,replies,author,views,lastpost ?>
*
* To provide information for the MainForum page (CategoryForum)
* summary output mode is possible.
*
*   <?plugin WikiForum page=SubTopic1
*            mode=summary info=forum,topics,posts,last_post ?>
*   <?plugin WikiForum page=SubTopic2
*             mode=summary info=forum,topics,posts,last_post ?>

It totally looks like postnuke, but is template based.
WikiPoll will be converted to templates also soon.

Why this?
PhpWiki is technically soo much better than postnuke, so it makes 
writing new modules here more fun than there. It just looks better 
there, admitted.
And phpBB looks bad and is overkill.
I won't mention phpnuke, this is a coding nightmare.
-- 
Reini Urban
http://xarch.tu-graz.ac.at/home/rurban/

Re: [Phpwiki-talk] More features (me too)

[Reini U. <ru...@x-...>]

Sascha Carlin schrieb:
> Reini Urban wrote:
>> And phpBB looks bad and is overkill.
> 'Looks bad': phpBB is template based, so if you don't like the look, go 
> ahead and change it.
> 
> 'Overkill': phpBB is one of the most mature forums out there with a 
> decent set of out-of-the-box features. Regarding using some of the phpBB 
> code for a threaded mode wiki page: yes, that would probably be 
> overkill, even if a stripped down phpBB contains not much more than some 
> 15 files plus templates.
> 
> Anyway, just _had_ to reply to this one.

:)

Somehow PhpWiki has to justify its code bloat :)
And if it's just a forum in one php page, with 80 other files sitting 
around.
-- 
Reini Urban
http://xarch.tu-graz.ac.at/home/rurban/

Re: [Phpwiki-talk] More features (me too)

[<ph...@de...>]

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 00:50:01 +0100, Reini Urban <ru...@x-...> wrote:
=> I seem to like postnuke's features.
	<snip>
=> PhpWiki is technically soo much better than postnuke, so it makes 
=> writing new modules here more fun than there. It just looks better 
=> there, admitted.

	I haven't posted to the list in a couple years.  My Wikis are very old
now but still running fine with happy users.  I'm very much looking forward to
the new stable 1.38 (and 1.4.0) - thanks from a non-coding lurker.

	Anyway, if you like the xxnuke CMS approach and are interested in wiki
implemmentation related to them, I'd highly recommend looking at the next leap
forward from phpnuke and postnuke: www.xaraya.com - its development community
was a spin-off from the implosion at postnuke and they've done an incredbile
job and are almost at their magical 1.0 release:
	http://www.xaraya.com/
I think you'd like it, especial as a "former lisp programmer".

	Thanks again for all the hard work,

	- Don
(who fooled with lisp in 1969 until it over stretched his mind)

Re: [Phpwiki-talk] More features (me too)

[Reini U. <ru...@x-...>]

ph...@de... schrieb:
> On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 00:50:01 +0100, Reini Urban <ru...@x-...> wrote:
> => I seem to like postnuke's features.
> 	<snip>
> => PhpWiki is technically soo much better than postnuke, so it makes 
> => writing new modules here more fun than there. It just looks better 
> => there, admitted.
> 
> 	I haven't posted to the list in a couple years.  My Wikis are very old
> now but still running fine with happy users.  I'm very much looking forward to
> the new stable 1.38 (and 1.4.0) - thanks from a non-coding lurker.
> 
> 	Anyway, if you like the xxnuke CMS approach and are interested in wiki
> implementation related to them, I'd highly recommend looking at the next leap
> forward from phpnuke and postnuke: www.xaraya.com - its development community
> was a spin-off from the implosion at postnuke and they've done an incredbile
> job and are almost at their magical 1.0 release:
> 	http://www.xaraya.com/
> I think you'd like it, especial as a "former lisp programmer".

yes, xaraya. another split in the nuke community...
their code is a bit better than ours. any a bit more lines.

code looks fine, just those long function prefixes, and the
web page looks too professional (closed),
without any user interaction which should drive this. looks like they 
need money but no users.
-- 
Reini Urban
http://xarch.tu-graz.ac.at/home/rurban/

RE: [Phpwiki-talk] More features (me too)

[Electrawn \(J. Potkanski\) <ele...@ya...>]

I still have much love for postnuke, with all its broken development. Has
something to do with the tons of modules available for it.

Want something pretty? Look at www.xoops.org . That is _pretty_ code.


ph...@de... schrieb:
> On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 00:50:01 +0100, Reini Urban <ru...@x-...> wrote:
> => I seem to like postnuke's features.
> 	<snip>
> => PhpWiki is technically soo much better than postnuke, so it makes 
> => writing new modules here more fun than there. It just looks better 
> => there, admitted.
> 
> 	I haven't posted to the list in a couple years.  My Wikis are very
old
> now but still running fine with happy users.  I'm very much looking
forward to
> the new stable 1.38 (and 1.4.0) - thanks from a non-coding lurker.
> 
> 	Anyway, if you like the xxnuke CMS approach and are interested in
wiki
> implementation related to them, I'd highly recommend looking at the next
leap
> forward from phpnuke and postnuke: www.xaraya.com - its development
community
> was a spin-off from the implosion at postnuke and they've done an
incredbile
> job and are almost at their magical 1.0 release:
> 	http://www.xaraya.com/
> I think you'd like it, especial as a "former lisp programmer".

yes, xaraya. another split in the nuke community...
their code is a bit better than ours. any a bit more lines.

code looks fine, just those long function prefixes, and the
web page looks too professional (closed),
without any user interaction which should drive this. looks like they 
need money but no users.
-- 
Reini Urban
http://xarch.tu-graz.ac.at/home/rurban/



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Re: [Phpwiki-talk] More features (me too)

[Whit B. <wh...@tr...>]

On Sat, Feb 28, 2004 at 05:27:46PM +0100, Reini Urban wrote:

> yes, xaraya. another split in the nuke community...

> code looks fine, just those long function prefixes, and the
> web page looks too professional (closed),

The Xaraya Webpage style is based on the constraints of doing brochures in
2, 3 or 4 color printing - where you put a whole lot in a single shade
because you can't afford a full-color approach. Nothing like immitating a
prior technology while pretending to be on the forefront of the next. Maybe
they'll progress from this to a page entirely in distressed typewriter font.

After looking at many of the wiki implementations out there, part of
PhpWiki's appeal was the clean appearance. I had to consciously discount for
its looking better to focus on appraising the functional features. It's
_hard_ in design to do simple well. Layering on design motifs for no purpose
just clutters the world with noise.

Whit