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From: Carsten K. <car...@ma...> - 2002-02-20 03:43:43
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Hi Jeff, The short answer is yes, and no; try the new page out to see the differences. You'll notice there is some overlap of information between PageHistory and the Info page. Info only shows data for one revision at a time. The additional info provided by the Info page would make PageHistory too cluttered if it were added in there instead. Without an Info page, the only way to find out such page information which is not shown in PageHistory, would be with AllPages or by constructing a query on a similar "PageList" type page, to produce the desired page name and columns, or looking at the DebugInfo page. The DebugInfo button should probably be hidden with a global debug flag for a final release. Carsten On Tuesday, February 19, 2002, at 09:31 pm, Jeff Dairiki wrote: > Carsten Klapp said: >> Update of /cvsroot/phpwiki/phpwiki/lib >> In directory usw-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv15803 >> >> Modified Files: >> main.php >> Log Message: >> New action "info", to replace "debuginfo" for the end user. > > > Do we really need this? Isn't PageHistory enough? > > > |
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From: Lawrence A. <la...@us...> - 2002-02-20 10:03:30
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It looks useful to me. I think the debug info should be retained, however, and made visible only to admins. Lawrence At 02:55 20/02/2002, you wrote: >Hi Jeff, > >The short answer is yes, and no; try the new page out to see the differences. > >You'll notice there is some overlap of information between PageHistory and >the Info page. Info only shows data for one revision at a time. > >The additional info provided by the Info page would make PageHistory too >cluttered if it were added in there instead. Without an Info page, the >only way to find out such page information which is not shown in >PageHistory, would be with AllPages or by constructing a query on a >similar "PageList" type page, to produce the desired page name and columns, > or looking at the DebugInfo page. > >The DebugInfo button should probably be hidden with a global debug flag >for a final release. > >Carsten > >On Tuesday, February 19, 2002, at 09:31 pm, Jeff Dairiki wrote: > >>Carsten Klapp said: >>>Update of /cvsroot/phpwiki/phpwiki/lib >>>In directory usw-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv15803 >>> >>>Modified Files: >>> main.php >>>Log Message: >>>New action "info", to replace "debuginfo" for the end user. >> >> >>Do we really need this? Isn't PageHistory enough? >> >> > > >_______________________________________________ >Phpwiki-talk mailing list >Php...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpwiki-talk |
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From: Jeff D. <da...@da...> - 2002-02-20 18:11:32
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Carsten Klapp said: > The short answer is yes, and no; try the new page out to see the > differences. I've tried it. The only things it provides which are not immediately available on PageHistory are markup version, "size", and the hit count. Markup version will probably go away in any release version. I think the general concensus is that we should only support one markup style. (I agree with that concensus.) "Size" is kind of useless to anyone except possibly an admin. You can get a good idea of the size just by browsing the page --- if that's not good enough for you, ViewSource or edit it. Hit count could concievably be of interest, I suppose. But we don't need a whole new button/page/and all the code for it just for that. I think we really need to try hard to keep the user interface simple. There are other wikis out there that do everything and have every possible feature, but even for me, they are not easy to use. I believe our target with PhpWiki is to make it suitable for use by not-so-computer-literate users. In any case, something like this should be implemented as a plugin/ActionPage, just like PageHistory. There's no need to add more code to main, etc... |
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From: Carsten K. <car...@ma...> - 2002-02-21 02:06:45
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I appreciate this feedback, and all very good points. I will move the code out of main and start making a plugin, to keep this extra functionality separate from the core wiki functions. In the mean time I will rethink the page. As you point out the need for a markup indicator will probably go away (also in agreement that PhpWiki should only support one markup style), and page size is of very limited interest. Carsten On Wednesday, February 20, 2002, at 01:11 pm, Jeff Dairiki wrote: > Carsten Klapp said: > >> The short answer is yes, and no; try the new page out to see the >> differences. > > I've tried it. The only things it provides which are not > immediately available on PageHistory are markup version, > "size", and the hit count. > > Markup version will probably go away in any release version. > I think the general concensus is that we should only support > one markup style. (I agree with that concensus.) > > "Size" is kind of useless to anyone except possibly an admin. You > can get a good idea of the size just by browsing the page --- if that's > not good enough for you, ViewSource or edit it. > > Hit count could concievably be of interest, I suppose. > But we don't need a whole new button/page/and all the code > for it just for that. > > I think we really need to try hard to keep the user interface > simple. There are other wikis out there that do everything > and have every possible feature, but even for me, they are not > easy to use. I believe our target with PhpWiki is to make it > suitable for use by not-so-computer-literate users. > > > In any case, something like this should be implemented as a > plugin/ActionPage, just like PageHistory. There's no need to > add more code to main, etc... > > > |
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From: Reini U. <ru...@x-...> - 2002-02-22 18:41:50
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Jeff Dairiki schrieb: > "Size" is kind of useless to anyone except possibly an admin. You > can get a good idea of the size just by browsing the page --- if that's > not good enough for you, ViewSource or edit it. well, we needed it for a community project on our local wiki, where we had to write a text with 80000 chars. (will be published as book article about the austrian internet culture this year) My size (charcount + wordcount) hacks into PageInfo were very useful then. -- Reini Urban http://xarch.tu-graz.ac.at/home/rurban/ |
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