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From: Lawrence A. <la...@us...> - 2001-12-21 11:46:03
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I have just downloaded the new 1.3.2 package and seen in it a few unexpected "extras" :-) Would it be possible to clean up the cvs so that unneeded files are removed? That way, I won't have to keep ignoring them everytime I update my local copy (I am lazy like that!) 1) Everything in the admin directory - I remember Steve saying recently that these files had all been superceded 2) locale/xx/templates - All of these (I think) use the old template format anyway. Do they even work with the new wiki? In any case, I thought that we no longer needed different language versions of the templates since some very clever person had an ingenious idea to use gettext in the templates, and Jeff implemented it (:-)) Incidentally, might it be sensible to release language packs separately, rather than including them in the main distribution? Just a thought 3) Do we really need to distribute the tests directory? The only people who use it probably use cvs anyway. I for one have not the faintest idea what the tests are for! Lawrence |
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From: Reini U. <ru...@x-...> - 2001-12-22 01:25:24
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Lawrence Akka schrieb:
> Incidentally, might it be sensible to release language packs separately,
> rather than including them in the main distribution? Just a thought
I'm for keeping it in main.
>
> 3) Do we really need to distribute the tests directory? The only people
> who use it probably use cvs anyway. I for one have not the faintest idea
> what the tests are for!
Yes, the testes inspired me yesterday to download the sun jre runtime,
but then I needed another 30mb download for the complete sdk just for
javac.exe
is there any more info how to run the tests or where to get the needed
classes, steve?
sun j2sdk1.4.0-beta3
$ javac AAA_GetHomePage.java
AAA_GetHomePage.java:2: package com.meterware.httpunit does not exist
import com.meterware.httpunit.*;
^
AAA_GetHomePage.java:18: cannot resolve symbol
symbol : class WebRequest
location: class AAA_GetHomePage
WebRequest request;
^
--
Reini Urban
http://xarch.tu-graz.ac.at/home/rurban/
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From: Steve W. <sw...@pa...> - 2001-12-22 16:38:04
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On Sat, 22 Dec 2001, Reini Urban wrote:
> > 3) Do we really need to distribute the tests directory? The only people
> > who use it probably use cvs anyway. I for one have not the faintest idea
> > what the tests are for!
Automated, aggressive testing is a tennet of Extreme Programming and a
good idea... I haven't put much effort into the tests since the initial
import.
I think as long as we are shipping developer versions (1.3 branch) the
tests can stay included, since they don't use much space. For a stable
release (1.2 or 1.4) they would be left out.
The tests use a little system I wrote as a consultant for a small company
here in NYC. It's httpunit (Java) and Ant (from the Jakarta project). In a
sense it works like a browser and exercises a Web application as a user
would.
>
> Yes, the testes inspired me yesterday to download the sun jre runtime,
> but then I needed another 30mb download for the complete sdk just for
> javac.exe
> is there any more info how to run the tests or where to get the needed
> classes, steve?
> sun j2sdk1.4.0-beta3
Hmm. I thought I had a README in there. Doh. I can track this down and add
it. I had a little tutorial I wrote but I must not have included it.
> $ javac AAA_GetHomePage.java
> AAA_GetHomePage.java:2: package com.meterware.httpunit does not exist
> import com.meterware.httpunit.*;
> ^
> AAA_GetHomePage.java:18: cannot resolve symbol
> symbol : class WebRequest
> location: class AAA_GetHomePage
> WebRequest request;
> ^
Ja, you need httpunit in your $CLASSPATH. It's available from Sourceforge;
just download the jar file and add it to your $CLASSPATH. Then install
Ant, and you're all set.
The tests don't work "out of the box" right now because I haven't figured
out how to give the tests a URL that will work anywhere (certainly doable,
like with 127.0.0.1 or a small config file the developer uses.. or even
parsing the index.php).
After that it's a simple matter of writing more little test scripts. I'll
be able to make it test lots of things:
login
diff
follow links
edit a page and make sure the change is there
and many more. Then I want to set up a cron job to run the tests against
the alpha site every night after it's been installed, and send an email (I
read something on sourceforge recently on how to do that as well) with the
test results.
It's just something that's been on the backburner for some time.
~swain
---
http://www.panix.com/~swain/
"Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring
production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid."
-- Frank Zappa
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From: Reini U. <ru...@x-...> - 2001-12-23 00:35:52
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Steve Wainstead schrieb:
> On Sat, 22 Dec 2001, Reini Urban wrote:
>
> > > 3) Do we really need to distribute the tests directory? The only people
> > > who use it probably use cvs anyway. I for one have not the faintest idea
> > > what the tests are for!
>
> Automated, aggressive testing is a tennet of Extreme Programming and a
> good idea... I haven't put much effort into the tests since the initial
> import.
>
> I think as long as we are shipping developer versions (1.3 branch) the
> tests can stay included, since they don't use much space. For a stable
> release (1.2 or 1.4) they would be left out.
>
> The tests use a little system I wrote as a consultant for a small company
> here in NYC. It's httpunit (Java) and Ant (from the Jakarta project). In a
> sense it works like a browser and exercises a Web application as a user
> would.
>
> >
> > Yes, the testes inspired me yesterday to download the sun jre runtime,
> > but then I needed another 30mb download for the complete sdk just for
> > javac.exe
> > is there any more info how to run the tests or where to get the needed
> > classes, steve?
> > sun j2sdk1.4.0-beta3
>
> Hmm. I thought I had a README in there. Doh. I can track this down and add
> it. I had a little tutorial I wrote but I must not have included it.
>
> > $ javac AAA_GetHomePage.java
> > AAA_GetHomePage.java:2: package com.meterware.httpunit does not exist
> > import com.meterware.httpunit.*;
> > ^
> > AAA_GetHomePage.java:18: cannot resolve symbol
> > symbol : class WebRequest
> > location: class AAA_GetHomePage
> > WebRequest request;
> > ^
>
> Ja, you need httpunit in your $CLASSPATH. It's available from Sourceforge;
> just download the jar file and add it to your $CLASSPATH. Then install
> Ant, and you're all set.
>
> The tests don't work "out of the box" right now because I haven't figured
> out how to give the tests a URL that will work anywhere (certainly doable,
> like with 127.0.0.1 or a small config file the developer uses.. or even
> parsing the index.php).
>
> After that it's a simple matter of writing more little test scripts. I'll
> be able to make it test lots of things:
>
> login
> diff
> follow links
> edit a page and make sure the change is there
>
> and many more. Then I want to set up a cron job to run the tests against
> the alpha site every night after it's been installed, and send an email (I
> read something on sourceforge recently on how to do that as well) with the
> test results.
>
> It's just something that's been on the backburner for some time.
I like the tests and enhanced the perl makemakebuild.pl to produce a
better Makefile. So you can easily add more tests.
I also tried to be independent of the ant executable and the build.xml
for gnu make friends, just because it is easier to add tests.
but this doesn't work yet, so it's commented out.
java on windows depends on backslashes in pathnames which is a mess in my
eyes.
I would really need a cygwin java.exe
And the latest j2sdk1.4.0 doesn't read getenv('CLASSPATH') anymore.
I also added the basic docs into this file.
And a simple scheme to add your personal test url.
--
Reini Urban
http://xarch.tu-graz.ac.at/home/rurban/
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From: Steve W. <sw...@pa...> - 2001-12-24 20:39:36
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thanks Reini!
~swain
On Sun, 23 Dec 2001, Reini Urban wrote:
> Steve Wainstead schrieb:
> > On Sat, 22 Dec 2001, Reini Urban wrote:
> >
> > > > 3) Do we really need to distribute the tests directory? The only people
> > > > who use it probably use cvs anyway. I for one have not the faintest idea
> > > > what the tests are for!
> >
> > Automated, aggressive testing is a tennet of Extreme Programming and a
> > good idea... I haven't put much effort into the tests since the initial
> > import.
> >
> > I think as long as we are shipping developer versions (1.3 branch) the
> > tests can stay included, since they don't use much space. For a stable
> > release (1.2 or 1.4) they would be left out.
> >
> > The tests use a little system I wrote as a consultant for a small company
> > here in NYC. It's httpunit (Java) and Ant (from the Jakarta project). In a
> > sense it works like a browser and exercises a Web application as a user
> > would.
> >
> > >
> > > Yes, the testes inspired me yesterday to download the sun jre runtime,
> > > but then I needed another 30mb download for the complete sdk just for
> > > javac.exe
> > > is there any more info how to run the tests or where to get the needed
> > > classes, steve?
> > > sun j2sdk1.4.0-beta3
> >
> > Hmm. I thought I had a README in there. Doh. I can track this down and add
> > it. I had a little tutorial I wrote but I must not have included it.
> >
> > > $ javac AAA_GetHomePage.java
> > > AAA_GetHomePage.java:2: package com.meterware.httpunit does not exist
> > > import com.meterware.httpunit.*;
> > > ^
> > > AAA_GetHomePage.java:18: cannot resolve symbol
> > > symbol : class WebRequest
> > > location: class AAA_GetHomePage
> > > WebRequest request;
> > > ^
> >
> > Ja, you need httpunit in your $CLASSPATH. It's available from Sourceforge;
> > just download the jar file and add it to your $CLASSPATH. Then install
> > Ant, and you're all set.
> >
> > The tests don't work "out of the box" right now because I haven't figured
> > out how to give the tests a URL that will work anywhere (certainly doable,
> > like with 127.0.0.1 or a small config file the developer uses.. or even
> > parsing the index.php).
> >
> > After that it's a simple matter of writing more little test scripts. I'll
> > be able to make it test lots of things:
> >
> > login
> > diff
> > follow links
> > edit a page and make sure the change is there
> >
> > and many more. Then I want to set up a cron job to run the tests against
> > the alpha site every night after it's been installed, and send an email (I
> > read something on sourceforge recently on how to do that as well) with the
> > test results.
> >
> > It's just something that's been on the backburner for some time.
>
> I like the tests and enhanced the perl makemakebuild.pl to produce a
> better Makefile. So you can easily add more tests.
>
> I also tried to be independent of the ant executable and the build.xml
> for gnu make friends, just because it is easier to add tests.
> but this doesn't work yet, so it's commented out.
> java on windows depends on backslashes in pathnames which is a mess in my
> eyes.
> I would really need a cygwin java.exe
> And the latest j2sdk1.4.0 doesn't read getenv('CLASSPATH') anymore.
>
> I also added the basic docs into this file.
> And a simple scheme to add your personal test url.
> --
> Reini Urban
> http://xarch.tu-graz.ac.at/home/rurban/
>
>
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"Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring
production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid."
-- Frank Zappa
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From: Jeff D. <da...@da...> - 2001-12-21 16:30:38
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On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 11:45:50 +0000 "Lawrence Akka" <la...@us...> wrote: > 1) Everything in the admin directory - I remember Steve saying recently > that these files had all been superceded What's left there is truly vestigal. I think most of what's left is either obsolete, or skeletons of things which never got done. I'll leave it to Steve to remove them altogether though. > 2) locale/xx/templates Yes, now with gettextified templates, those are obsolete (unused). We should leave them in the CVS, I think, until translations get moved from the old template files into the po files... > 3) Do we really need to distribute the tests directory? Probably not. On the other hand, 1.3 is still rather alpha: extra cruft in the distributions is the least of our problems. :-) |
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From: Carsten K. <car...@ma...> - 2001-12-22 01:11:57
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The html templates can go... except for the editpage template for the time being. For each language, the TextFormattingRules instructions need to be moved into a Summary paragraph at the top of the TextFormattingRules in pgsrc. The German files are done with the templates so they can go. (I didn't want to delete them myself because I was worried they might be removed from the 1.2 branch as well. Do I need to worry about this or does CVS handle them separately?) Once the translators are done with TFR the editpage templates can go. I suppose there's no reason to keep Browse and Message around, they can be deleted right away. Carsten On Friday, December 21, 2001, at 06:45 am, Lawrence Akka wrote: > I have just downloaded the new 1.3.2 package and seen in it a few > unexpected "extras" :-) > > Would it be possible to clean up the cvs so that unneeded files are > removed? That way, I won't have to keep ignoring them everytime I update > my local copy (I am lazy like that!) > > 1) Everything in the admin directory - I remember Steve saying recently > that these files had all been superceded > > 2) locale/xx/templates - All of these (I think) use the old template > format anyway. Do they even work with the new wiki? In any case, I > thought that we no longer needed different language versions of the > templates since some very clever person had an ingenious idea to use > gettext in the templates, and Jeff implemented it (:-)) > > Incidentally, might it be sensible to release language packs separately, > rather than including them in the main distribution? Just a thought > > 3) Do we really need to distribute the tests directory? The only people > who use it probably use cvs anyway. I for one have not the faintest idea > what the tests are for! > > > Lawrence |
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From: Jeff D. <da...@da...> - 2001-12-22 17:41:50
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On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 20:11:49 -0500 "Carsten Klapp" <car...@ma...> wrote: > The German files are done with the templates so they can go. (I didn't > want to delete them myself because I was worried they might be removed > from the 1.2 branch as well. Do I need to worry about this or does CVS > handle them separately?) Gone. You don't need to worry about that, I don't think. You just have to have the right sticky tags (in this case, none) set, so that your changes are checked into the right branch... I'm taking off for the holidays tomorrow --- I'll be back in a week and a half or so. If you don't hear from me for awhile, that's why. Have a good Christmas everyone! |
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