phpwiki-talk

[Phpwiki-talk] Allowing non-pre monospaced text

[Gary B. <ga...@in...>]

I can't find the exact message in the archives, but someone a while ago
mentioned that they wanted to have inlined monospaced text, ie using <tt>
rather than <pre>. This bugged me, since I wanted it too, but the proposed
syntax -- {{monospaced}} -- struck me as cumbersome.

The other day it hit me -- why not use the underused backtick? My
PersonalWiki now supports __bold__, ''italic'', and ``monospaced`` text.
It works really well and is easy to type, so I'd ask you to consider
adding this feature to PhpWiki.

Later,
Gary

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Re: [Phpwiki-talk] Allowing non-pre monospaced text

[Sergio A. K. <ser...@ho...>]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary Benson" <ga...@in...>


> 
> The other day it hit me -- why not use the underused backtick? My
> PersonalWiki now supports __bold__, ''italic'', and ``monospaced`` text.
> It works really well and is easy to type, so I'd ask you to consider
> adding this feature to PhpWiki.

speaking of this, my wiki has this semantics:

__underline__

**bold**

//italic//

isn't a little more intuitive ?
(ie. is what most irc do this days, even mozilla)

/sergio

Re: [Phpwiki-talk] Allowing non-pre monospaced text

[Steve W. <sw...@pa...>]

I wish the IETF would create a Wiki markup syntax RFC already. :-)

I agree, //italic// is more intuitive. ``monospaced`` would be easy to
add.

~swain


On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, Sergio A. Kessler wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary Benson" <ga...@in...>
>
>
> >
> > The other day it hit me -- why not use the underused backtick? My
> > PersonalWiki now supports __bold__, ''italic'', and ``monospaced`` text.
> > It works really well and is easy to type, so I'd ask you to consider
> > adding this feature to PhpWiki.
>
> speaking of this, my wiki has this semantics:
>
> __underline__
>
> **bold**
>
> //italic//
>
> isn't a little more intuitive ?
> (ie. is what most irc do this days, even mozilla)
>
> /sergio
>
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Re: [Phpwiki-talk] Allowing non-pre monospaced text

[Adam S. <ad...@pe...>]

Gary wrote ...

> I can't find the exact message in the archives, but someone a while
> ago mentioned that they wanted to have inlined monospaced text, ie
> using <tt> rather than <pre>. This bugged me, since I wanted it too,
> but the proposed syntax -- {{monospaced}} -- struck me as cumbersome.

that was me, and {{{text}}} is kinda cumbersome but it's what moin used.

> The other day it hit me -- why not use the underused backtick? My
> PersonalWiki now supports __bold__, ''italic'', and ``monospaced``
> text. It works really well and is easy to type, so I'd ask you to
> consider adding this feature to PhpWiki.

that works for me.  if you are using the alpha version can you post a
patch?

Sergio wrote ...

> speaking of this, my wiki has this semantics:
>
> __underline__
> **bold**
> //italic//
>
> isn't a little more intuitive ? (ie. is what most irc do this days, even
> mozilla)

yes, i think it is a little more intuitive, the problem i see is that
**bold** will interfere with double indented lists won't it?

it would be nice to see a standard wiki syntax, but then i guess that
would take some of the fun out of writing them.

adam.

ps. i assume everyone knows but moinmoin and twiki's sourceforge pages
were totally wiped by someone the other day, and since the pages were
read/write sf does't want to restore them.  it might pay to make sure that
someone has a backup of the phpwiki page database in case this is wiki
hatred :-)

Re: [Phpwiki-talk] Allowing non-pre monospaced text

[Gary B. <ga...@in...>]

> > The other day it hit me -- why not use the underused backtick? My
> > PersonalWiki now supports __bold__, ''italic'', and ``monospaced``
> > text. It works really well and is easy to type, so I'd ask you to
> > consider adding this feature to PhpWiki.
>
> that works for me.  if you are using the alpha version can you post a
> patch?

I'm using 1.2, but if you open transform.php, search for '', make a copy
of the two lines and replace '' with `` and <em> with <tt> you won't go
far wrong...

> ps. i assume everyone knows but moinmoin and twiki's sourceforge pages
> were totally wiped by someone the other day, and since the pages were
> read/write sf does't want to restore them.  it might pay to make sure that
> someone has a backup of the phpwiki page database in case this is wiki
> hatred :-)

For the GtmWiki, I have two complimentary backup(ish) strategies.
Firstly, I have a CGI containing the following (note that I use custom
table names):

| #!/bin/sh
|
| echo "Content-type: text/plain"
| echo
|
| mysqldump 2>&1 -uUSER -pPASS DATABASE \
|                --add-drop-table --add-locks --quick --lock-tables \
|     wiki_pages \
|     wiki_archive \
|     wiki_links \
|     wiki_score \
|     wiki_hitcount \
|     wiki_hottopics

which gets called every night and the results saved. Secondly, I hacked
savepage.php to email me a diff of the edits, so a) I don't have to check
RecentChanges, and b) I have an evolving record of what changes.

Re: [Phpwiki-talk] Allowing non-pre monospaced text

[Steve W. <sw...@pa...>]

On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Adam Shand wrote:

> ps. i assume everyone knows but moinmoin and twiki's sourceforge pages
> were totally wiped by someone the other day, and since the pages were
> read/write sf does't want to restore them.  it might pay to make sure that
> someone has a backup of the phpwiki page database in case this is wiki
> hatred :-)

Wow, that's awful! I've made a zip dump of the current site. Thanks for
the heads-up.

~swain

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Re: [Phpwiki-talk] Allowing non-pre monospaced text

[Reini U. <ru...@x-...>]

Steve Wainstead schrieb:
> On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Adam Shand wrote:
> > ps. i assume everyone knows but moinmoin and twiki's sourceforge page=
s
> > were totally wiped by someone the other day, and since the pages were
> > read/write sf does't want to restore them.  it might pay to make sure=
 that
> > someone has a backup of the phpwiki page database in case this is wik=
i
> > hatred :-)
>=20
> Wow, that's awful! I've made a zip dump of the current site. Thanks for
> the heads-up.

I make dialy backup's. Not only zipdump's, also incremental RCS versions.
Did I never post this shell script?

This is for a dialy zipdump of my german murwiki:
#!/bin/sh
# dump wikidb from murwiki
cd //v/mur/wiki

baseurl=3D"http://tv.mur.at/murwiki/"
zip=3D`date +"wiki-%Y%m%d.zip"`
log=3Dwiki.log
#
login=3D"http://xarch.tu-graz.ac.at/autocad/wiki/PhpWikiAdministration?ac=
tion=3Dlogin"
dump=3D$baseurl"PhpWikiAdministration?action=3Dzip"
changes=3D$baseurl"Letzte=C4nderung"
# xlog=3Dacadwiki-1.3.4pre/log/xarch_access.log
credentials=3D' --http-user=3Dadmin --http-passwd=3Dxxx'

echo "dumping $changes..."
wget -nv -OLetzte=C4nderung-`date +"%Y%m%d"` $changes
wget -nv $credentials -a$log -O$zip $dump
# wget -nv $credentials -a$log http://xarch.tu-graz.ac.at/home/rurban/$xl=
og
echo "$baseurl successfully dumped to $zip."

this is a better one, into RCS:
#!/bin/sh
# shell script to save a [remote] phpwiki v1.3x into RCS
#
# cron sample for daily backup
# 0  1 * * *   cd ~/backup/wiki1; ~/phpwiki/wbackup --http-user=3Drurban
--http-passwd=3Dpass http://xarch.tu-graz.ac.at/acadwiki/
# 10 1 * * *   cd ~/backup/wiki2; ~/phpwiki/wbackup http://tv.mur.at/murw=
iki/

# default cfg, if no arguments given
wikiurl=3D$@
if [ -z "$wikiurl" ]; then
  wikiurl=3D"http://xarch.tu-graz.ac.at/acadwiki/"
fi

# create rcs in the actdir=20
# path of backup, RCS will be created in a subdir
reldir=3D`dirname $0`
homedir=3D`cd $reldir; pwd`
tmpdir=3D/tmp/phpwiki
zip=3D/tmp/`/bin/date +"phpwiki-%Y%m%d.zip"`
# log=3D/var/log/phpwiki.log
log=3D$homedir/phpwiki.log

# changes=3D$wikiurl"RecentChanges"
# echo "dumping $changes..."
# wget -ORecentChanges-`date +"%Y%m%d"` $changes

/usr/bin/wget -nv -a$log -O$zip $wikiurl"PhpWikiAdministration?action=3Dz=
ip"
# echo "$wikiurl successfully dumped to $zip."

/bin/rm -rf $tmpdir
/usr/bin/unzip $zip -d $tmpdir/
pushd $tmpdir
files=3D$(ls --color=3Dnone *)
popd
for f in $files; do=20
  # overwrite old
  if [ ! -f $f,v ]; then=20
    /bin/cp -f $tmpdir/$f .
    /usr/bin/rcs -i -q -U -t-"phpwiki backup" $f;=20
    /usr/bin/sed -e"1d" $tmpdir/$f >$f
  fi
  # drop first line to ignore equal files=20
  # this holds only "From <backup date>"
  /usr/bin/sed -e"1d" $tmpdir/$f >$f
  /usr/bin/ci -q -m'#' $f
  /bin/rm -f $tmpdir/$f
done
/bin/rm -f $zip
/bin/rmdir $tmpdir

This is one of my sample cronjob scripts:
#!/bin/sh
cd /home/rurban/proj/wiki/acadwiki
../wbackup --http-user=3Dadmin --http-passwd=3Dxxx
http://xarch.tu-graz.ac.at/acadwiki/