From: Oliver B. <ob...@de...> - 2005-01-05 16:05:57
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Hello All, are there any reasons why I should _not_ switch to MediaWiki? For example: which important features of PhpWiki are not available in MediaWiki? One might be that MediaWiki needs a SQL database where PhpWiki supports dbm or even flatfile. But this seems to be available even AFAIS, there are no page permissions in MediaWiki? Any reasons why somebody _should_ switch to MediaWiki? Oliver |
From: Reini U. <ru...@x-...> - 2005-01-05 19:40:13
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Oliver Betz schrieb: > are there any reasons why I should _not_ switch to MediaWiki? A lot of wiki's switched lately from phpwiki to mediawiki. the reason is the missing stability in phpwiki. supporting more platforms, databases, auth+perms, our rich abstraction and better plugin integration has its price. > For example: which important features of PhpWiki are not available in > MediaWiki? > > One might be that MediaWiki needs a SQL database where PhpWiki > supports dbm or even flatfile. But this seems to be available even > > AFAIS, there are no page permissions in MediaWiki? featurewise has mediawiki about 70% of phpwiki. no abstraction for database, parsing and presentation. and helper libs. just mysql support, which is known to be good only for read-only and otherwise very slow. page and group permissions, no pagetypes, no markup versioning, ... mediawiki is a big hack, look at the source, but it works fine. mediawiki adds arbitrary positional tags (span div), which we didn't want. they invented their own syntax, which was against all existing wikis, similar to tikiwiki. > Any reasons why somebody _should_ switch to MediaWiki? stability, more users, more developers. -- Reini Urban http://phpwiki.org/ |
From: <mi...@ha...> - 2005-01-05 23:22:54
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Reini Urban writes: >> Any reasons why somebody _should_ switch to MediaWiki? > stability, more users, more developers. You won't get this kind of public confession from a proprietary software vendor :-) hats off to you. Anyway, I just would like to use this opportunity to say thanks to the developers of phpwiki. Indeed I suffered from numerous bugs in 1.3.10, but I've upgraded to the latest CVS, and it looks fine now. I used phpwiki to power the information centre on Aceh - the area which suffered the most from the recent tsunami disaster : http://aceh.abangadek.com/index.php/EN_HomePage phpwiki has enabled me to develop this rapidly alone, and then enable others to join me later without much problem. Also it's flexible and can accommodate many needs (the nature of wiki really) Who knows, your software may actually save lives. Thanks again. Thanks, Harry |
From: Reini U. <ru...@x-...> - 2005-01-06 02:26:25
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mi...@ha... schrieb: > Reini Urban writes: >>> Any reasons why somebody _should_ switch to MediaWiki? >> stability, more users, more developers. > > You won't get this kind of public confession from a proprietary software > vendor :-) hats off to you. > > Anyway, I just would like to use this opportunity to say thanks to the > developers of phpwiki. Indeed I suffered from numerous bugs in 1.3.10, > but I've upgraded to the latest CVS, and it looks fine now. > I used phpwiki to power the information centre on Aceh - the area which > suffered the most from the recent tsunami disaster : > http://aceh.abangadek.com/index.php/EN_HomePage Whow! This makes my month! Also my hats off to the wikipedia content folks, who managed to bring better and deeper information about this tragedy and background than all other commercial and government media! I've never read that much wikipedia and wikinews than in the last week. esp. about Aceh, the Tamil Tigers and the Kongo War. That's the main reason why I was paralysed and couldn't to fix the latest CVS problems. (new locale detection, latest redirect and session crashes.) > phpwiki has enabled me to develop this rapidly alone, and then enable > others to join me later without much problem. Also it's flexible and can > accommodate many needs (the nature of wiki really) > Who knows, your software may actually save lives. Good to hear! Who knows, maybe they stop their war now also. It may sound harsh, but the civil war in Sri Lanka and Aceh concerns me more than the Tsunami. You cannot really do a lot against Tsunami's in your region (the coast is far too near for an effective warning), but you can do something against the ongoing war and improve now communication between the conflicting parties and the poor uninvolved parties. The current state of affairs concerns me lot. I cannot sleep well. Which in return affected phpwiki development. And I fear that like in Lissabon 1755 (which harmed liberalism a lot) this might lead again to meta-physical problems. Thanksfully your people are not that stupid than those american folks here: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Radical_Group_declares_Tsunami_punishment_from_God Buddhist and Islamic religion might be more down to earth. Well, I hope so. BTW: You might want to include the wikipedia links to the various bittorrent video zip's. -- Reini Urban http://phpwiki.org/ |
From: Oliver B. <ob...@de...> - 2005-01-05 22:02:03
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Reini Urban wrote: [more features and capabilities in PhpWiki...] > mediawiki is a big hack, look at the source, but it works fine. already have been reading this elsewhere... > > Any reasons why somebody _should_ switch to MediaWiki? > > stability, more users, more developers. I was afraid to read this. Page/group permissions are _very_ interesting in PhpWiki, especially for corporate applications. Sad that there are not more people working on PhpWiki (I can't - no PHP knowledge). So I will stay with PhpWiki for my existing Wikis, but for our company's new knowledge base, other people prefer MediaWiki and I can't really contradict. I hope that it's the right choice... Oliver -- Oliver Betz, Muenchen |