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[Phpwiki-talk] 1.4 release?

[<mal...@cs...>]

Dear phpwiki-developers,

I believe the deadline for releasing 1.4 was pushed back from Christmas
to sometime in January (phpWiki's anniversary perhaps)? It's now halfway
through Feb. Any word on when 1.4 might be released? Could this date 
be clearly recorded somewhere - like on the website - so we all know what
we're expecting/aiming for? (And is there any online archive of this 
mailing list?)

I'm bugging you about this as I think it is easy for Open Source proects
to lose track of deadlines and the needs of "ordinary users". I love phpWiki
(I run one based on a much earlier release) but I really don't want to have 
to deal with installing a developmental release. Can you _please_ settle 
on a stable release soon, and then focus on bug-fixes, rather than shiny 
new chrome?

I wouldn't bother bothering you like this if I didn't believe that phpWiki
has the potential to be a very useful product - if it ever gets out of 
development.

Malcolm

-- 
Malcolm Ryan - mal...@cs... - http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~malcolmr/

                         "Blessed are those who mourn,
                          for they will be comforted."          -- Matt 5:4

Re: [Phpwiki-talk] 1.4 release?

[Reini U. <ru...@x-...>]

Malcolm Ross Kinsella Ryan schrieb:
> I believe the deadline for releasing 1.4 was pushed back from Christmas
> to sometime in January (phpWiki's anniversary perhaps)? It's now halfway
> through Feb. Any word on when 1.4 might be released? Could this date 
> be clearly recorded somewhere - like on the website - so we all know what
> we're expecting/aiming for? (And is there any online archive of this 
> mailing list?)
> 
> I'm bugging you about this as I think it is easy for Open Source proects
> to lose track of deadlines and the needs of "ordinary users". I love phpWiki
> (I run one based on a much earlier release) but I really don't want to have 
> to deal with installing a developmental release. Can you _please_ settle 
> on a stable release soon, and then focus on bug-fixes, rather than shiny 
> new chrome?
> 
> I wouldn't bother bothering you like this if I didn't believe that phpWiki
> has the potential to be a very useful product - if it ever gets out of 
> development.

I talked with Steve about this two weeks ago.

1.3.8 will be out very soon, as soon as some remaining bugs with
the new prefs and auth is fixed. Hopefully this week. ldap and file auth 
is not tested so far.

1.4.0 will have PagePermissions enabled for page listings also.
They are already enabled for normal operations. And they do work fine 
for me, but are not fully tested yet.
The new admin plugins to administrate the new features must work also.

maybe for 1.4.0: I'm also working on a action=upgrade feature to load 
changed or new pgsrc pages for example. This will make upgrades e.g. 
from 1.3.4 much easier.
-- 
Reini Urban
http://xarch.tu-graz.ac.at/home/rurban/

RE: [Phpwiki-talk] 1.4 release?

[electron <ele...@mg...>]

Subject: Re: [Phpwiki-talk] 1.4 release?

Malcolm Ross Kinsella Ryan schrieb:
> I believe the deadline for releasing 1.4 was pushed back from =
Christmas
> to sometime in January (phpWiki's anniversary perhaps)? It's now =
halfway
> through Feb. Any word on when 1.4 might be released? Could this date=20
> be clearly recorded somewhere - like on the website - so we all know =
what
> we're expecting/aiming for? (And is there any online archive of this=20
> mailing list?)
>=20
> I'm bugging you about this as I think it is easy for Open Source =
proects
> to lose track of deadlines and the needs of "ordinary users". I love
phpWiki
> (I run one based on a much earlier release) but I really don't want to
have=20
> to deal with installing a developmental release. Can you _please_ =
settle=20
> on a stable release soon, and then focus on bug-fixes, rather than =
shiny=20
> new chrome?
>=20
> I wouldn't bother bothering you like this if I didn't believe that =
phpWiki
> has the potential to be a very useful product - if it ever gets out of =

> development.

----

Try and remember that most Open source stuff is also hobby based. What =
do
you need done?

-Jtp


----



I talked with Steve about this two weeks ago.


1.3.8 will be out very soon, as soon as some remaining bugs with
the new prefs and auth is fixed. Hopefully this week. ldap and file auth =

is not tested so far.

1.4.0 will have PagePermissions enabled for page listings also.
They are already enabled for normal operations. And they do work fine=20
for me, but are not fully tested yet.
The new admin plugins to administrate the new features must work also.

maybe for 1.4.0: I'm also working on a action=3Dupgrade feature to load=20
changed or new pgsrc pages for example. This will make upgrades e.g.=20
from 1.3.4 much easier.

----

Tack on Installation functions. I'll whip up something ala postnuke,
possibly an upgrade script too.=20

-Jtp

Re: [Phpwiki-talk] 1.4 release?

[<mal...@cs...>]

On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 05:48:12PM -0600, electron wrote:
> Subject: Re: [Phpwiki-talk] 1.4 release?
> 
> Malcolm Ross Kinsella Ryan schrieb:
> > Any word on when 1.4 might be released?
> 
> Try and remember that most Open source stuff is also hobby based. What do
> you need done?

I'm well aware of that. And it's really cool that you guys are doing this.
I'm hopeless with PHP and web stuff in general, but I love Wikis. That's 
why I'm bugging you. 

I know that in hobby-based development you tend to forget about making 
stable releases and get caught up in adding the next neat feature. I've 
been there myself. I just want to remind you that there are some of us 
who are actually using your great project, and who'd _really_ love it if 
you could stamp out those bugs and give us something solid to use, while 
you go off and build the next great thing.

I can't tell you what needs doing, as I have avoided using any of the
development releases for some time. What I need is just a branch which
going to get more solid and stable over time, without any exciting new
features appearing (with associated issues). 

Malcolm

-- 
Malcolm Ryan - mal...@cs... - http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~malcolmr/

                        "Blessed are the poor in spirit, 
                      for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."     -- Matt 5:3