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[Phpwiki-talk] alpha tables flushed nightly

[Steve W. <sw...@pa...>]

I realized it would only take one line in the cron script to dump/reload
all the tables for the alpha site. Every night all the pages will be
restored to the defaults.

~swain

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Re: [Phpwiki-talk] alpha tables flushed nightly

[Jeff D. <da...@da...>]

On Mon, 5 Nov 2001 12:28:50 -0500 (EST)
"Steve Wainstead" <sw...@pa...> wrote:

> Every night all the pages will be restored to the defaults.

I think this is a fine idea for testing purposes, but it does bring
up a point.

The main phpwiki wiki now is more or less useless for real interaction
and brainstorming due to the fact it's RecentChanges is overriden with
test pages.
The alpha wiki (perhaps due to its lower visibility) actually fostered
some useful intercourse on itself.

Perhaps we could rename the current alpha wiki to "developer wiki"
or some such, and keep it around (with intact data).  (And have a
separate new "alpha wiki" whose sole purpose is testing.)

Or perhaps try to cleanup the main wiki, and divert and create a new
"1.2 sandbox wiki" and try to funnel all the asdfasdfTestPages to it.

Or?

Jeff 

Re: [Phpwiki-talk] alpha tables flushed nightly

[Adam S. <ad...@pe...>]

> Or perhaps try to cleanup the main wiki, and divert and create a new
> "1.2 sandbox wiki" and try to funnel all the asdfasdfTestPages to it.

i think this is a good idea, keep the data in one place.  i've actually
been meaning to offer for a while ... i already spend a reasonable amount
of time a day maintaining wiki's (see personaltelco.net and spack.org as
reference) and the phpwiki is fairly low traffic.  if someone is willing
to give me admin privledge so i can delete pages i would be happy to try
and keep the main wiki clean.  there's a lot of great info there but it's
often lost in the noise.

maybe setup the alpha site as steve discussed to be purged nightly as a
test/demo site.  then put a notice on the main site at the top/bottom
which directs people to the test site to mess around there.

i think it would also be nice to migrate the main phpwiki site to the 1.3
code base to get it some testing and exposure.

adam.

Re: [Phpwiki-talk] alpha tables flushed nightly

[Steve W. <sw...@pa...>]

On Mon, 5 Nov 2001, Adam Shand wrote:

>
> maybe setup the alpha site as steve discussed to be purged nightly as a
> test/demo site.  then put a notice on the main site at the top/bottom
> which directs people to the test site to mess around there.
>
> i think it would also be nice to migrate the main phpwiki site to the 1.3
> code base to get it some testing and exposure.

Yes, I'll do that soon. The main site will be the for discussion; the
alpha site for experimentation. In fact there's no reason why we can't
have demos of all three versions (1.0, 1.2, 1.3.x) and a stable home site
for the project.

~swain


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[Phpwiki-talk] Backups (was: alpha tables flushed nightly)

[Jeff D. <da...@da...>]

On Mon, 5 Nov 2001 14:49:31 -0500 (EST)
"Steve Wainstead" <sw...@pa...> wrote:

> On Mon, 5 Nov 2001, Adam Shand wrote:
> > i think it would also be nice to migrate the main phpwiki site to the
1.3
> > code base to get it some testing and exposure.
> 
> Yes, I'll do that soon. The main site will be the for discussion; the
> alpha site for experimentation. In fact there's no reason why we can't
> have demos of all three versions (1.0, 1.2, 1.3.x) and a stable home
site
> for the project.

That sounds like a fine plan.

We should probably (if "we"'re not doing so already) set up some regular
back-upage of the production wiki.  I can set up a cron job to fetch a
nightly zip-dump to my home machine, but if someone else has a system
which is more systematically backed-up (e.g. nightly tapes), that would,
of course, be preferable.

For that matter, we should arrange for backups of the CVS archive (&
perhaps other data) as well.  I just noticed that this is, more-or-less,
our responsibility, not SourceForge's.  See:
  http://sf.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=6840&group_id=1

Re: [Phpwiki-talk] Backups (was: alpha tables flushed nightly)

[Steve W. <sw...@pa...>]

On Mon, 5 Nov 2001, Jeff Dairiki wrote:

> On Mon, 5 Nov 2001 14:49:31 -0500 (EST)
> "Steve Wainstead" <sw...@pa...> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 5 Nov 2001, Adam Shand wrote:
> > > i think it would also be nice to migrate the main phpwiki site to the
> 1.3
> > > code base to get it some testing and exposure.
> >
> > Yes, I'll do that soon. The main site will be the for discussion; the
> > alpha site for experimentation. In fact there's no reason why we can't
> > have demos of all three versions (1.0, 1.2, 1.3.x) and a stable home
> site
> > for the project.
>
> That sounds like a fine plan.
>
> We should probably (if "we"'re not doing so already) set up some regular
> back-upage of the production wiki.  I can set up a cron job to fetch a
> nightly zip-dump to my home machine, but if someone else has a system
> which is more systematically backed-up (e.g. nightly tapes), that would,
> of course, be preferable.
>
> For that matter, we should arrange for backups of the CVS archive (&
> perhaps other data) as well.  I just noticed that this is, more-or-less,
> our responsibility, not SourceForge's.  See:
>   http://sf.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=6840&group_id=1

Aye, we could just do a mysqldump too. I can set up a cron job on my
remote server to do this every night. I'll add it to the todo list.

~swain


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