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[Phpwiki-talk] object orientiation

[Thomas K. <th...@co...>]

I my thougths a first step towards a object-oriented wiki could be to =
allow for nested
wiki-tags like in the following examples:

WikiTag.SubWikiTag.SubSubWikiTag is interpreted as a whole

..SubWikiTag  in a page is prepended with the page-name in links=20

for example in the the page ThomasKalka
..ToDo would link to ThomasKalka.ToDo


What do you think ??

Thomas

Re: [Phpwiki-talk] object orientiation

[Steve W. <sw...@wc...>]

On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Thomas Kalka wrote:

> I my thougths a first step towards a object-oriented wiki could be to
> allow for nested wiki-tags like in the following examples: 
> 
> WikiTag.SubWikiTag.SubSubWikiTag is interpreted as a whole
> 
> ..SubWikiTag  in a page is prepended with the page-name in links 
> 
> for example in the the page ThomasKalka
> ..ToDo would link to ThomasKalka.ToDo
> 
> 
> What do you think ??
> 
> Thomas
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [Phpwiki-talk] object orientiation

[Jeff D. <da...@da...>]

>> I my thougths a first step towards a object-oriented wiki could be to
>> allow for nested wiki-tags like in the following examples: 
>> 
>> WikiTag.SubWikiTag.SubSubWikiTag is interpreted as a whole
>> 
>> ..SubWikiTag  in a page is prepended with the page-name in links 
>> 
>> for example in the the page ThomasKalka
>> ..ToDo would link to ThomasKalka.ToDo
>> 
>> 
>> What do you think ??

Yes, I was going to comment on this before, but forgot.
(First, I'm not sure I would call this object-oriented!)

I did start a wiki-page with similar ideas at:
  http://phpwiki.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/index.php?NewWikiPageNameSemantics


UseMod has a SubPage feature which is very similar to what you suggest
  see http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?action=browse&id=SubPage

UseMod uses '/' as the separator between page and subpage.  I think '.'
makes a much better separator.  Perhaps this is because of my Unix
background '/ToDo'  doesn't look like a sub-page to me --- the leading
slash to me indicates a top-level file.  

Why two leading dots and not just one?  Why couldn't .ToDo be enough?

Jeff

Re: [Phpwiki-talk] object orientiation

[Malcolm R. <mal...@cs...>]

On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 04:47:03PM -0800, Jeff Dairiki wrote:
> >> I my thougths a first step towards a object-oriented wiki could be to
> >> allow for nested wiki-tags like in the following examples: 
> >> 
> >> WikiTag.SubWikiTag.SubSubWikiTag is interpreted as a whole
> >> 
> >> ..SubWikiTag  in a page is prepended with the page-name in links 
> >> 
> >> for example in the the page ThomasKalka
> >> ..ToDo would link to ThomasKalka.ToDo
> >> 
> >> 
> >> What do you think ??
> 
> Yes, I was going to comment on this before, but forgot.
> (First, I'm not sure I would call this object-oriented!)
> 
> I did start a wiki-page with similar ideas at:
>   http://phpwiki.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/index.php?NewWikiPageNameSemantics

How would this affect the readability of links? The current LinkingScheme
using WikiWords is nice because it PreservesReadability of the text.

I already find that the InterWiki link scheme is distracting enough. Trying
to Wiki:ReadASentence with PhpWiki:InterWikiLinks in it is 
NomicWiki:HardEnoughAlready. 

Nevermind having Usemod:PathNames/ComplexPathNamesLikeThis.

I think non-computer-types are really going to baulk at this sort of 
thing. I know people who think WikiWords are distracting enough as it is.

Malcolm

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[Phpwiki-talk] object orientiation

[Thomas K. <th...@co...>]

I`m thinking about using
..WikiName
for the following reasons

a) In my logic the .WikiName is an operator , something like "part of". Then
..SomeThing would
    be interpretetd as >>SomeThing is "part of" "."<< and the first "." is
the pointer to the actual object.

b) It is more error-save then just .WikiTag , which you could produce more
easily by  mistake.
    If one allows also NonWikiWords to be used for namig  Objects this
becomes even more important.

c) .something is not as easily recognized by humans as ..something, this is
more uncommon.


Thomas

Re: [Phpwiki-talk] object orientiation

[Steve W. <sw...@pa...>]

On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, Malcolm Ryan wrote:

> I already find that the InterWiki link scheme is distracting enough. Trying
> to Wiki:ReadASentence with PhpWiki:InterWikiLinks in it is
> NomicWiki:HardEnoughAlready.

> I think non-computer-types are really going to baulk at this sort of
> thing. I know people who think WikiWords are distracting enough as it is.

I think InterWiki linking is really of interest to Wiki enthusiasts,
mostly. It does get some use on Advogato when referring to the definition
of a term.

~swain


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