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From: Arno H. <aho...@in...> - 2000-06-30 18:18:56
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> This reminds me... someone requested that I generate a patch set for each > release, which is a reasonable request... does CVS support that directly? cvs has a diff & rdiff option. Unfortunately, they do not support tags as identifier, only revisions and dates. So you need to find the exact date of the release (probably including time of day). /Arno |
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From: Arno H. <aho...@in...> - 2000-06-30 17:54:09
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Jeff wrote: > o Pagenames moved to PATH_INFO rather than in QUERY_ARGS. > (Somewhat nitpicky, I admit.) This is a simple change, but is invasive > (nearly every source file need to be touched.) just to be sure I understand what you're talking about: instead of doing, e.g. http://phpwiki.sourceforge.net/1.1.6/index.php3?PhpWikiBrainstorm you suggest: http://phpwiki.sourceforge.net/1.1.6/PhpWikiBrainstorm How would edits/diffs/... handled? like this: http://phpwiki.sourceforge.net/1.1.6/edit/PhpWikiBrainstorm or this: http://phpwiki.sourceforge.net/1.1.6/PhpWikiBrainstorm/edit or this: http://phpwiki.sourceforge.net/1.1.6/PhpWikiBrainstorm?edit (this makes sense to me) Actually, you only need to touch two files: index.php3 (preparing args) and wiki_stdlib.php3 (doing WikiLinks) - plus maybe the template files. It is a reasonable suggestion, but it means that phpwiki would no longer run "out of the box". This kind of setup requires changes to the web server's config. This is not possible everywhere. We could add it as option, though. I'm not sure that this is an urgent issue. The only difference might be for spiders scanning the web (e.g. search engines). Some of them ignore anything after "?" and would only index the main page and nothing else. Any other reason? /Arno |
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From: Arno H. <aho...@in...> - 2000-06-30 17:43:22
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Sebastien, > <HEAD></HEAD> tags this line: > <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> > in order to allow the macs and others to see the foreign accents, since an > é appears in the html sources as an é and not as an é as it should > ... I've added the Content-type tag. I did a quick search on w3.org and it seems to support your suggestion. Btw, I've also added ALT tags for the logo, as well as a <!DOCTYPE>. phpwiki is now fully HTML compliant, according to validator.w3.org :o) /Arno |
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From: Arno H. <aho...@in...> - 2000-06-30 17:40:41
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Hi Jeff, welcome to the phpwiki development team :o) > >The test file you supplied has about 220 lines. > >On my machine (128MB, AMD K6-2 450 Mhz) computation takes about 0.2 sec. > >I guess that's reasonable. Diff will be a seldom used feature. > > On second thought: how did you get that time? Is it possible that > it includes > the download time for the test files (they get read from sourceforge.net.) Download-time is not included. I did a simple loop over $diff = new WikiDiff($archive['content'], $wiki['content']); and timed that loop only. 250 diffs take 48 sec - makes 0.2sec per diff. Not 100% accurate, but good enough for getting a rough estimate. /Arno |
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From: Steve W. <sw...@wc...> - 2000-06-30 16:46:20
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This didn't make the list so I'm forwarding it... sw ...............................ooo0000ooo................................. Hear FM quality freeform radio through the Internet: http://wcsb.org/ home page: www.wcsb.org/~swain ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 08:31:17 -0700 From: Jeff Dairiki <da...@da...> To: Steve Wainstead <sw...@wc...> Subject: Re: wiki_diff >Done... you should have write access to CVS now. Thank you Steve. (I've just checked in a few fixes to wiki_diff.php3.) >Arno and I have been developing by concensus, mostly. He will occasionally >add a whole new feature (like diff) when it has no impact on the existing >functionality, because he knows I get crabby about backwards compatibility >;-) I don't envision adding much without a lot of consultation. >We had a set of goals for 1.2, but along the way we've picked up >templates, the page info link, and now diffs. All great stuff. The >original goal was to develop a new DB schema (done) and implement it >(partly done) that would give use new pages like MostHeavilyEdited and >MostViewed and so forth. > >Also there are additions to the markup language; in particular I want to >get away from using tabs because they are so inconvenient to non-Unix >users ;-) > >I want to do a reassesment of where we are over the weekend and decide how >far away 1.2 is. It's not that far really. While your deciding, please consider these two changes/features which I'd really like to see in 1.2 (the details of which you've seen on http://phpwiki.sourceforge.net/1.1.6/index.php3?PhpWikiBrainstorm): o Pagenames moved to PATH_INFO rather than in QUERY_ARGS. (Somewhat nitpicky, I admit.) This is a simple change, but is invasive (nearly every source file need to be touched.) o Version control. (I envision multiple backup copies, stored as diffs). This is admittedly a fairly big project, so it's understandable if you want to put it off until later. Given a thumbs-up, I'd be happy to work on either/both of these. (Though adding version history involves changes to the database schema, so coordination with Arno is an issue.) I'm going to be away from the computer (I hope) for the weekend, so don't expect to hear from me until Monday or Wednesday... Best Regards, Jeff |
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From: <sbe...@mo...> - 2000-06-30 08:00:36
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> > I think you should include in the original templates in the > > <HEAD></HEAD> tags this line: > > <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; > > charset=iso-8859-1"> in order to allow the macs and others to see > > the foreign accents, since an é appears in the html sources as an é > > and not as an é as it should ... > > > That's a good idea... thx! > > It won't affect the page rendering in any other way, will it? > Nope . ------------------------ Sébastien BERNARD, sbe...@mo..., http://www.mouzaia.com/ |
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From: Steve W. <sw...@wc...> - 2000-06-30 01:58:30
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Done... you should have write access to CVS now. Arno and I have been developing by concensus, mostly. He will occasionally add a whole new feature (like diff) when it has no impact on the existing functionality, because he knows I get crabby about backwards compatibility ;-) We had a set of goals for 1.2, but along the way we've picked up templates, the page info link, and now diffs. All great stuff. The original goal was to develop a new DB schema (done) and implement it (partly done) that would give use new pages like MostHeavilyEdited and MostViewed and so forth. Also there are additions to the markup language; in particular I want to get away from using tabs because they are so inconvenient to non-Unix users ;-) I want to do a reassesment of where we are over the weekend and decide how far away 1.2 is. It's not that far really. welcome aboard! sw ...............................ooo0000ooo................................. Hear FM quality freeform radio through the Internet: http://wcsb.org/ home page: www.wcsb.org/~swain |
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From: Steve W. <sw...@wc...> - 2000-06-29 23:43:24
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This reminds me... someone requested that I generate a patch set for each release, which is a reasonable request... does CVS support that directly? sw On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Steve Wainstead wrote: > > I added the diff feature on the live site > (http://phpwiki.sourceforge.net/1.1.6/) including Arno's security fix for > page info. > > sw > > ...............................ooo0000ooo................................. > Hear FM quality freeform radio through the Internet: http://wcsb.org/ > home page: www.wcsb.org/~swain > > > _______________________________________________ > Phpwiki-talk mailing list > Php...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/phpwiki-talk > ...............................ooo0000ooo................................. Hear FM quality freeform radio through the Internet: http://wcsb.org/ home page: www.wcsb.org/~swain |
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From: Steve W. <sw...@wc...> - 2000-06-29 23:31:43
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I added the diff feature on the live site (http://phpwiki.sourceforge.net/1.1.6/) including Arno's security fix for page info. sw ...............................ooo0000ooo................................. Hear FM quality freeform radio through the Internet: http://wcsb.org/ home page: www.wcsb.org/~swain |
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From: Steve W. <sw...@wc...> - 2000-06-29 23:30:15
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I just wanted to tell you both, excellent work! (Especially Jeff!) I just got home, ran "cvs update" and tried out the new diff feature. It's fantastic! Jeff, if you are interested in becoming a contributor, I can set you up for CVS access, but you'll have to give me your sourceforge account name. still amazed, sw ...............................ooo0000ooo................................. Hear FM quality freeform radio through the Internet: http://wcsb.org/ home page: www.wcsb.org/~swain |
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From: Steve W. <sw...@wc...> - 2000-06-29 19:38:37
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On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, [ISO-8859-1] Sébastien Bernard wrote: > Hello Steve. > > I think you should include in the original templates in the > <HEAD></HEAD> tags this line: > <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> > in order to allow the macs and others to see the foreign accents, since an > é appears in the html sources as an é and not as an é as it should > ... That's a good idea... thx! It won't affect the page rendering in any other way, will it? sw ...............................ooo0000ooo................................. Hear FM quality freeform radio through the Internet: http://wcsb.org/ home page: www.wcsb.org/~swain |
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From: Steve W. <sw...@wc...> - 2000-06-29 19:37:05
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On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Jeff Dairiki wrote: > >The test file you supplied has about 220 lines. > >On my machine (128MB, AMD K6-2 450 Mhz) computation takes about 0.2 sec. > >I guess that's reasonable. Diff will be a seldom used feature. > > That's actually a bit worrysome. (I hadn't done any profiling yet. > Is there a good way to profile PHP?) Oh, I think that's more than adequate. WikiWikiWebDoesNotScale so speed is not too great a concern, though don't use that as a license to write bubble sorts! ;-) sw ...............................ooo0000ooo................................. Hear FM quality freeform radio through the Internet: http://wcsb.org/ home page: www.wcsb.org/~swain |
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From: Steve W. <sw...@wc...> - 2000-06-29 19:34:21
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On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, [ISO-8859-1] Sébastien Bernard wrote: > Just to show how well written is phpwiki, I did some modifications on it > you can see on http://www.grinibiz.com/phpwiki/ > This is a prototype site still. I looked at it and I can't believe it's PhpWiki, it's so colorful! :-) > I dont like the way TheLinks LooksLike, I am going to look and see if there > is not something else to do ! There is a new linking scheme, using square brackets: [this is a Wiki link] [this is a link to wcsb.org | http://www.wcsb.org/ ] [send me an email | mailto:sw...@wc... ] I think this is what you are looking for. cheers! sw ...............................ooo0000ooo................................. Hear FM quality freeform radio through the Internet: http://wcsb.org/ home page: www.wcsb.org/~swain |
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From: <sbe...@mo...> - 2000-06-29 17:24:46
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Hello Steve. I think you should include in the original templates in the <HEAD></HEAD> tags this line: <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> in order to allow the macs and others to see the foreign accents, since an é appears in the html sources as an é and not as an é as it should ... ------------------------ Sébastien BERNARD, sbe...@mo..., http://www.mouzaia.com/ |
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From: Jeff D. <da...@da...> - 2000-06-29 17:07:32
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Lying in bed last night a number of random ideas for PhpWikiEnhancements came to me. In the Wiki spirit I've detailed them in some pages on the PhpWiki1.1.6 Wiki. See http://phpwiki.sourceforge.net/1.1.6/index.php3?PhpWikiBrainstorm |
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From: Jeff D. <da...@da...> - 2000-06-29 16:58:35
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Hi Arno, >great! impressive stuff :o) Thanks! >I added it to the phpwiki right away. >I had to modify the WikiDiffFormatter class so that it works with templates. > >Check out the latest CVS. Great. I guess now I'll have to remember how to CVS. I want to test it a bit more and add a couple more features. (Option to make WikiDiffFormatter output reverse diffs; a WikiDiff->compose method.) >The test file you supplied has about 220 lines. >On my machine (128MB, AMD K6-2 450 Mhz) computation takes about 0.2 sec. >I guess that's reasonable. Diff will be a seldom used feature. That's actually a bit worrysome. (I hadn't done any profiling yet. Is there a good way to profile PHP?) Those test files are a particularly simple case, as there is only one diff in the middle of the file. The first thing WikiDiffEngine does is ignore the common lines at the beginning and end of each file. This leaves only 9 lines in the first file and 2 in the second. On second thought: how did you get that time? Is it possible that it includes the download time for the test files (they get read from sourceforge.net.) Jeff |
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From: Arno H. <aho...@in...> - 2000-06-29 16:29:16
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Jeff, > I've done a bit more reading, and have looked closed at the GNU diffutils > sources. This afternoon I hacked together my own PHP diff engine. I think > it's working, though I'd like to test it a bit more. Here it is if you'd > like to check it out. great! impressive stuff :o) I added it to the phpwiki right away. I had to modify the WikiDiffFormatter class so that it works with templates. Check out the latest CVS. > Computation time is still quadratic in file size. I did not include > in the code the heuristics which GNU diff uses to get around this, though > it could be easily done. As long as the files involved are not more than > a few hundred lines in length, it's probably not an issue. The test file you supplied has about 220 lines. On my machine (128MB, AMD K6-2 450 Mhz) computation takes about 0.2 sec. I guess that's reasonable. Diff will be a seldom used feature. /Arno |
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From: <sbe...@mo...> - 2000-06-29 16:06:09
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> > I wish I could help, and I was thinking in translating the original > > pages in french, or at least the more important one. Would you be > > interested ? > > Absolutely. If you want to translate all the pages in pgsrc/ to > French, I would definitely include it in the distribution, with full > credit to you. > Ok, I will. Just to show how well written is phpwiki, I did some modifications on it you can see on http://www.grinibiz.com/phpwiki/ This is a prototype site still. It took me a very small on hour. I did include in the first line of index.php3 an include of a procedures files: <include "procedures.php3">; In this file, I have functions, like this one: <? // procedures.php3 // this is a personal file. I can have n functions in it. include("../parametres.php3"); include("../templates/proceduresmenu.php"); function function1() { // friendly links $strReturn = ""; include("../friendly/string_friendly.php"); return $strReturn ; } function function2() { // menu Haut global $Appel_News, $Appel_Reports; return RetourneMenu('','fr',2,'../'.$Appel_News, '../'.$Appel_Reports); } ?> In your wiki_stdlib.php3, function generatePage: I include these lines: $page = str_replace("#$FieldSeparator#RESULT1#$FieldSeparator#", function1(), $page); $page = str_replace("#$FieldSeparator#RESULT2#$FieldSeparator#", function2(), $page); as many I need, and in the templates: ###RESULT1###, ###RESULT2###, ###RESULTn### It is not very elegant, I am sure there is better way to do it ... And it is going to allow me to organize themes and languages on the left side nav. I dont like the way TheLinks LooksLike, I am going to look and see if there is not something else to do ! Of course if I continue, I will credit the phpwiki team (and the others). ------------------------ Sébastien BERNARD, sbe...@mo..., http://www.mouzaia.com/ |
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From: Jeff D. <da...@da...> - 2000-06-29 07:12:35
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> > There's a (somewhat well documented) Perl implementation of the > > diff algorithm at: > > http://www.plover.com/~mjd/perl/diff/ > >Thanks for pointing this out. Actually, this afternoon, I discovered that there's a newer and more memory efficient version of Algorithm::Diff on the CPAN. (In the old version LCS_matrix() populates an m by n matrix; where m and n are the lengths of the files be diffed.) >I hacked around a little bit and came up with a somewhat simplified >php version of the perl-diff by mjd. I've done a bit more reading, and have looked closed at the GNU diffutils sources. This afternoon I hacked together my own PHP diff engine. I think it's working, though I'd like to test it a bit more. Here it is if you'd like to check it out. Features: o Memory requirements are linear in file size, rather than quadratic. o Fancy colorized diff output (either unified diffs or plain diffs). o Diffs can be serialized, deserialized, and applied to a file. (i.e. this code is ready to be used in a version control system.) Computation time is still quadratic in file size. I did not include in the code the heuristics which GNU diff uses to get around this, though it could be easily done. As long as the files involved are not more than a few hundred lines in length, it's probably not an issue. Jeff |
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From: Steve W. <sw...@wc...> - 2000-06-29 04:08:54
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On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, [ISO-8859-1] Sébastien Bernard wrote: > First I wanted to thanks you about your FANTASTIC work (1.1.6). > Templates, etc .... Wow, thanks! It's messages like this one that motivate me to continue making PhpWiki better! :-) Of course Arno gets most of the credit for 1.1.6. > I wish I could help, and I was thinking in translating the original pages in > french, or at least the more important one. Would you be interested ? Absolutely. If you want to translate all the pages in pgsrc/ to French, I would definitely include it in the distribution, with full credit to you. > Then, since a few days, I am playing with the one I had before, older, > maybe 1.0.3, and I did install it on a site I have here, in france, very cheap > one, not free but almost, online.fr, with a php 3.0.15 and it did not work out > of the box like it seem you want it does. > I think it was due to some "virtuality" in the url of my provider, and > changing one line in config.php3: > $ServerAddress = ''; > instead of all your schmilblik stuff with ereg solve the pb. Good.. I wonder what server configuration they have would prevent the dynamic setting of $ServerAddress? > Another trouble I had there, and I dont understand why AT ALL, is I had to > change the .png and replace them with a .gif (or .jpeg i suppose) ! On my > machine in my office, it was ok ! and it has nothing to do with php ! But ... > Hmm. Maybe the server it's on does not know how to serve .png files? sw ...............................ooo0000ooo................................. Hear FM quality freeform radio through the Internet: http://wcsb.org/ home page: www.wcsb.org/~swain |
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From: Arno H. <aho...@in...> - 2000-06-28 21:32:33
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Hi Jeff, > One of the things I'd like to see added is diff's from the previous version > like the ones you get by clicking on the last edit date in the c2.com wiki. > There's a (somewhat well documented) Perl implementation of the > diff algorithm at: > http://www.plover.com/~mjd/perl/diff/ Thanks for pointing this out. I hacked around a little bit and came up with a somewhat simplified php version of the perl-diff by mjd. It is attached below. To test it on your computer change those file() calls to actual existing files. I guess it should be easy to include this into phpwiki. /Arno |
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From: Jeff D. <da...@da...> - 2000-06-28 21:15:26
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Here's a perl script I just wrote. It's dumps an entire phpwiki to a tar file. (The structure of the tar file mirrors that of the pgsrc directory in the phpwiki distribution.) It's still a little rough: currently it only works for MySQL based wikis. I am however using it to make daily backups of the state of my wiki. Note that this require perl5. You also need to have the Archive::Tar module and Bundle::DBD::mysql bundle installed. Comments appreciated. I suppose it would be really slick to convert this to a PHP that generated the tar files on the fly. I did it in perl because Archive::Tar already exists. Jeff |
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From: Jeff D. <da...@da...> - 2000-06-28 19:18:25
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Hi Steve, Arno, et. al. I've just set up a new experimental Wiki at http://www.dairiki.org/HammondWiki/ . (It's dedicated to Hammond organs in case that wasn't obvious.) It's based upon phpwiki 1.1.6b. Great work! And thanks! One of the things I'd like to see added is diff's from the previous version like the ones you get by clicking on the last edit date in the c2.com wiki. I see in the phpwiki-talk archives that there was some talk of diff's a couple of weeks ago, but that there was some hesitancy at the idea of implementing the diff functionality within PHP. (The motivation of that discussion appears to be the desire to keep an RCS-like history of all changes to the Wiki.) There's a (somewhat well documented) Perl implementation of the diff algorithm at: http://www.plover.com/~mjd/perl/diff/ I suspect this could be used as the basis of a PHP implementation. With some encouragement from you(all) I could even be convinced to work on the conversion. Interested? Best Regards, Jeff |
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From: <sbe...@mo...> - 2000-06-28 18:44:47
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First I wanted to thanks you about your FANTASTIC work (1.1.6). Templates, etc .... I wish I could help, and I was thinking in translating the original pages in french, or at least the more important one. Would you be interested ? Then, since a few days, I am playing with the one I had before, older, maybe 1.0.3, and I did install it on a site I have here, in france, very cheap one, not free but almost, online.fr, with a php 3.0.15 and it did not work out of the box like it seem you want it does. I think it was due to some "virtuality" in the url of my provider, and changing one line in config.php3: $ServerAddress = ''; instead of all your schmilblik stuff with ereg solve the pb. Another trouble I had there, and I dont understand why AT ALL, is I had to change the .png and replace them with a .gif (or .jpeg i suppose) ! On my machine in my office, it was ok ! and it has nothing to do with php ! But ... Thanks Again. ------------------------ Sébastien BERNARD, sbe...@mo..., http://www.mouzaia.com/ |
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From: Steve W. <sw...@wc...> - 2000-06-27 20:18:10
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Nah, nothing is going to top my releasing a new version with my personal config file. Whenever you feel really bad just point at me and laugh. :-) sw On Tue, 27 Jun 2000, Arno Hollosi wrote: > > Hi, > > I fixed Jerry's bug and found an even more embarrasing bug as well. > (I suggest you make this change on sourceforge's wiki): > > There's a typo in wiki_stdlib.php3 which prevents switching to a > new date in RecentChanges. Change line 259 > from global $dateformst; > to global $dateformat; > > I guess we should test our next release a little bit better. > > I shall punish myself now. > > /Arno > > _______________________________________________ > Phpwiki-talk mailing list > Php...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/phpwiki-talk > ...............................ooo0000ooo................................. Hear FM quality freeform radio through the Internet: http://wcsb.org/ home page: www.wcsb.org/~swain |
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