[Phpwiki-talk] Re: Since we are discussing your cool changes....

[Aredridel <are...@nb...>]

> Please forward to whomever is running the NBTSwiki:
> 
> We're discussing your cool Wiki modifications on the PHPWiki list,
> and I for one would love to see the code changes you've made, since there
> are clearly some _really_ cool things you've added...
> (If you aren't on the PHPWiki list, check the archives to get up to speed
> and subscribe) http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=6121

I am on the list -- I've been lurking lately, since my patches can no longer
apply to anything resembling the latest branch.

> What version did you start with, and could you either send me a copy of your
> current code so I can diff it, or (even better) do you have the patches
> yourself?  I'd love to see some of these mods make it back into the current
> mix... I can see a few I'd like to have on my own wiki(s).

I started with 1.0, migrated to 1.2 as it was developed and have since then
hacked it to pieces.  There's hardly a part that's the same except the file
structire of the scripts.  The WikiMarkup in PHPWiki 1.2 is mostly my
syntax, merged back into the tree, though the rendering engines are totally
different ( and NBTSWikiWiki's is very inefficient and due for a rewrite
soon.  It is, however, neatly kludged to cache rendered versions of pages,
so the CPU cost is lowered.)

> I think this is the true beauty of 'open source' code sharing: Your wiki
> came from the same 'roots' but ended up different enough that we couldn't
> even tell at first it _was_ related.  It's like discovering a neighboring
> Galapagos Island with new breeds on it, and learning about evolution.

Exactly!  I've loved to see the code I wrote appear other places, or ideas
I've worked on get implemented and improved.

> I am sure Steve and all of the rest of us PHPWiki user/owners would love to
> hear all of the geekly details about what you did, didn't, tried, etc etc.

I've been talking a bit about ideas on the list, but been so busy lately
that my ideas aren't getting implemented fast enough to talk about,
nevermind have time to theorize.

The NBTSWikiWiki is definately a community thing.  The group of people
involved are some fantastic friends, and you've probably run into several of
them . . . They tend to terrorize Eugene this time of year.  (You probably
know my friend Max Orhai, if you've been to Euglug meetings of late
. . . I think he hangs out there.)

> 
> Seth
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gary Benson <ga...@in...>
> To: Adam Shand <ad...@pe...>
> Cc: Seth Cohn <se...@eu...>; <php...@li...>
> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 7:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [Phpwiki-talk] Re: User registration (was: PHPGW plugin)
> 
> 
> >
> > On Sat, 22 Sep 2001, Gary Benson wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, 21 Sep 2001, Adam Shand wrote:
> > >
> > > > > For an interesting take on this, look at:
> > > > > http://www.nbtsc.org/wiki/NBTSWikiWiki

Pretty slick, eh?  It works, anyway.

> > > > wow, i hadn't found that before.  that's a cool wiki, do you know what
> > > > software they are running?  i couldn't find the obligatory "powered by
> > > > ..." anywhere.

I've always hated those.  I -am- thinking of putting on a "Powered by
a bizzarre set of code that just happens to work" logo on though...

> > >
> > > Search for PhpWiki on it -- some of the pages are almost verbatim from
> > > pgsrc. Either it is a very, very hacked PhpWiki or the guy started using
> > > PhpWiki and then migrated the database over to a new system...

Yep. PHPWiki 1.0 pgsrc, and updated to PHPWiki 1.2-ish markup, to be exact.

> >
> > In fact, http://www.nbtsc.org/wiki/WikiPhilosophy is almost a blow-by-blow
> > account of all the changes the guy made to PhpWiki...

Or all the ones that affected the user anyway.


Talk to you,

Aredridel