Re: [Phpwiki-talk] New jeffshacks snapshot.

[Adam S. <ad...@pe...>]

>  http://www.dairiki.org/hammondwiki.rdf

for the archives try this instead:

	http://www.dairiki.org/rss1.0/hammondwiki.rdf

> My main interest in RSS was to get a UnifiedRecentChanges index going.
> I've got a prototype sort of working, but have stopped working on it
> while I'm working on jeffs-hacks.

ah crap, i can't believe i didn't find this.  i've been wanting this
forever, and here i thought i was the only one.  doh.

>  http://matthews.dairiki.org/urc.html

does meatball already support an rss feed of it's RecentChanges?  if not
are you manually parsing it?

> When you say RDF/RSS output for _any_ wiki page, what exactly do you
> mean?

well my original thought had been that you'd do something like this (i'm
using moin syntax here cause i'm more familiar with it but you get the
idea):

  http://personaltelco.net/index.cgi/RecentChanges?action=rss&num=10

or something like that.  so that you could specify how many of the last
changes you wanted.  i have to apologise that i'm not hugely familiar with
rss/rdf/xml yet but i'm learning.

however if you're going to do that you may as well have any page be
capable of being exported this way.  this would be useful for my end goal
which is wiki/weblog integration.  now a category page exported as an rss
feed and become a slashbox.

> Do you want just the page meta-data (page name, author, edit date) or
> do you want all the content, too?  I've been thinking about that a
> bit.

in all the instances i can think of actually wanting to use it i would
want the content exported as well eg. RecentChanges, CategoryXxxxx

> I'm no expert, but it seems that RDF is ideally suited for the
> meta-data, but not really meant for storing the content.  (It seems
> some more general form of XML might be better suited for that.)

right but then we loose the main advantage of being able to munge wiki's
into rss feeds and slashboxes.  as sunir suggested an extension to the rss
spec to cater to wiki's might be do-able.

> The other problem with RDF, is that I suspect it's going to be awhile
> before a good full-blown RDF parser is available in PHP.  (Parsing RSS
> is one thing, parsing generic RDF is quite a bit trickier.)

i think we really want to shoehorn this into rss because the main point of
it is to leverage other software that's already out there.  unfortunately
i'm not entirely sure what the differences between rss and rdf are as i
search around for software for freshmeat rss and rdf seem to be used
interchangably.

> Of course, that syntax is already used in PhpWiki for ordered lists.
> It would have to be something uglier like:
>
> // please steal this comment

that'll work.  sorry for the moin-ism :)

adam.