Re: [Phpwiki-talk] Older versions?

[J C L. <cl...@ka...>]

On Sun, 10 Jun 2001 14:39:39 -0700 (PDT) 
Adam Shand <la...@sp...> wrote:

>> I tend to the view that forgiveness is a human construct and is
>> therefore for humans, not machines, or if you wish, the dialectic
>> opposite of SunirShah's parting comment.

> i mostly agree with you.  what i think is interesting is the
> attempt to make a collaborative environment (in this case a wiki)
> match a human social environment.  groups of humans usually
> forgive and forget over time (barring major transgressions), i
> think the idea of making a computer forgive and forget is
> potentially interesting.

Its interesting but I think also an intellectual tar baby.  As soon
as you go down that road you are codifying personal human
evaluations, which means that they are no longer personal but are
now shared cultural expectations which are enforced on the
individual beyond his real ability to counter.

Aiiiie.

>> And yes, I'd be a fan of WayBackMode (added to list of things to
>> implement here along with per user PageTagging).

> this would certainly be preferable for more technical or work
> oriented wiki's.  i'm not sure it would be of community based
> wiki's.

Aye, I'm not a great fan of SociaWikis, mostly because I don't think
they work very well for that purpose (I'm an email guy).  For
collaborative documentation and development of a KnowledgeNase Wikis
work exceptionally well.  What I'm trying to do here is to marry a
Wiki, mailing list archives and a K5-ish weblog.  Early screenshot:

  http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/wikitest.png

Oh yeah the comments are individual WikiItems as well (I've got
HeirarchialWikiItems ala WikiItem/SubItem/SubItem with individual
items able to appear in multiple places in the tree (abstract
views), as well as the ability for a Item to embed/nest the contents
of another WikiItem inside itself at display time (think quotes)).

> however until someone implements it we'll never know :)

There is that.

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J C Lawrence                                       cl...@ka...
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