Re: [Phpwiki-talk] Change in embedded image procedure

[Steve W. <sw...@wc...>]

On Wed, 19 Jul 2000, Jeff Dairiki wrote:

> On a related note: what about trying to phase out the page references
> altogether?  As far as I can see (except for the case of inlined
> images) [1] with the appropriate entry in the page references is
> identical in function to [1|http://www.foo.bar/wazoo.html].

Good point. Again, references were something we inhereted from classic
Wiki. Arno made a good case to drop them when we started out on 1.1, but I
was stubborn because some people use and like them (that is, people that
emailed me, not my imaginary friends ;-)

I am intrigued however by a change Ari made in the NBTSC PhpWiki where
references are no more, they are instead "footnotes" in the classic sense:
http://www.nbtsc.org/wiki/MarkupTest

I haven't read the code for this yet. Whether it has value or not, I don't
know, but it looks cool at least :-)

Another reason I had was that references are the way to embed images... so
in the end the compomise we made was to jam the references in one column
and get a D- in database design. I guess I was also enamored with
backwards compatibility.

> If you're going to invent new syntax, how about something that doesn't
> create any more special characters.  Maybe something like
> 
>   [ INLINE | alt text | http://foo.com/img.png ]
> 
> Yeah, it's ugly.  There's probably something better.
> 
> A couple of things to think about:
> 
> To by lynx friendly, it would be nice to be able to specify ALT text 
> for an inlined image.
> 
> One of the reasons I personally don't use the wiki inlined images very
> much is that there's currently no way to specify the image size.
> With my browser, that means I don't get to see any of the page until
> the image loads.  I hate that.
> 
> One could create syntax for specifying image size:
> 
>   [ INLINE 20x60 | alt text | http://foo.com/img.png ]
> 
> Or to get fancy, one might be able to have PhpWiki fetch the image
> once (in a while) and cache the size.

Ugh. I should start a WikiPage on ReinventingHtml. How about no embedded
images? :-)

sw 

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