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[Phpwiki-talk] wikiprofile standardization
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From: Reini U. <ru...@x-...> - 2007-07-07 08:12:06
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Another forward from the wikistandards list: Reini: This idea came from the Montreal 2007 RoCoCoMeeting in persona, where we discussed how to extend the interwiki map, to be able to use other features in other wiki's and wiki-engines, different from linking just to a page (interwiki), or using xmlrpc. We don't even know the xmlrpc interface for the other wiki. So we came up with a idea to publish for every wiki a wikiprofile, with a list of links to be used for some features other might be interested in. I heavily opted for <link rel="wiki.profile" type="application/rdf+xml" href="http://mywiki.com/wiki?action=profile"> and optionally n3 version: <link rel="wiki.profile" type="text/rdf+n3" href="http://mywiki.com/wiki?action=profile&format=n3"> docuwiki and mediawiki I believe export a dublin core metadata list. ============================================== Earle Martin: Thanks to everyone who attended Tuesday's IRC meeting (http://wikiohana.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl/IrcMeetingJuly2007) - it was productive. For those who weren't there, I was inviting discussion on a project I've been working on called the Wiki Profile Vocabulary, which is essentially an RDF vocabulary for describing wikis and aspects of wikis. (The idea was originally suggested by Ward; thanks.) You can find the latest version at http://wikirdf.org/vocabulary/profile/ . There's also an article I wrote about what a "profile document" is and how to make one, at http://wikirdf.org/docs/creating-wiki-profiles.html . What I'm hoping that wiki authors will do is add support for producing these profile documents to their wiki engines, complete with autodiscovery tags in the <head> sections of their HTML pages, in order for robots and other mechanisms to find the information. In theory, it would be possible to write code to automatically generate sister site links from one wiki to another, just by entering the URI of the other wiki. Two main points were discussed: The current version of the spec has a naive expectation that wiki URIs are roughly of the form http://example.com/scriptname?args=whatever;page=[page name here]. However some wiki engines use URIs of the form http://example.com/scriptname/[page name here]/args. Chris Dent suggested using URI Templates (http://bitworking.org/projects/URI-Templates/) to define the form of URIs, and this was generally agreed to be a good idea. The other point was how to specify an autodiscovery method in page HTML that points to a wiki's profile document. Suggestions were (note, examples only; your engine's URI for producing a profile doesn't matter): A la Dublin Core (suggested by Reini Urban): <meta name="wiki.profile" type="application/rdf+xml" link="/wiki?action=profile"> A la FOAF (http://rdfweb.org/topic/Autodiscovery): <link rel="meta" type="application/rdf+xml" href="/wiki?action=profile"> Hybrid: <link rel="wiki.profile" type="application/rdf+xml" href="/wiki?action=profile"> Hybrid, n3 version: <link rel="wiki.profile" type="text/rdf+n3" href="/wiki?action=profile&format=n3"> Also, the possibility of having a "standard location" like robots.txt (http://www.robotstxt.org/) was mentioned, but was thought to be too inflexible. Out of all of these, I very much prefer the second, FOAF-style option, because the profile is very much an example of metadata, and I'm not too sure about how the "x.y" syntax works. On the other hand, reading through the W3C specs, it is apparently legal to have any QName (XML qualified name - see http://www.w3.org/TR/xmlschema-2/#QName) as the value of a "link rel", and a XML prefix can be used as long as it's been defined in an xmlns attribute (http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml2/mod-metaAttributes.html#adef_metaAttributes_rel). So I guess it would be possible to do <link rel="rdfs:isDefinedBy" type="application/rdf+xml" href="/wiki?action=profile#Wiki"> ...but that seems a little over the top. <link rel=meta> is a well-known style and shouldn't cause any problems. Cheers, Earle. -- Earle Martin http://downlode.org/ http://purl.org/net/earlemartin/ _______________________________________________ wiki-standards mailing list. wik...@wi... http://www.wikisym.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wiki-standards For the wiki-research, wiki-standards, wikisym-announce mailing lists, please see: http://www.wikisym.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo -- Reini Urban http://phpwiki.org/ http://murbreak.at/ http://spacemovie.mur.at/ http://helsinki.at/ |
