Re: [Phpwiki-talk] I've upgraded www.hollenback.net to 1.3.11-rc3 and it looks good

[Philip J. H. <ph...@po...>]

I just checked www.hollenback.net on IE 6.0, Win2K and it looks pretty
bad.  Specifics below, but bottom line is the Crao theme that ships with
1.3.11rc3 has serious rendering problems in IE that have to be
addressed.=20

On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 18:50:18 +0200, "Arnaud Fontaine" <ar...@cr...>
said:
> Joel Uckelman a =E9crit :
> >>Philip J. Hollenback schrieb:
> >>>3. Crao nav bar is messed up in Forefox/Mac OS X.  Specifically, the
> >>>'prefs / admin / search' buttons and box on the right side are stacked
> >>>vertically instead of spread in a horizontal line like they should be.
> >>>I don't see this behavior with Safari.
> >=20
> > This is due to themes/Crao/templates/navbar.tmpl, line 20:
> >=20
> > <td align=3D"right" width=3D"150">
> >=20
> > Remove the width attribute, and the right end of the nav bar has suffic=
ient
> > space to display on a single line. That solves the problem for Firefox.
> > Unfortunately, I think the width attribute is there to coax IE into ren=
dering
> > the navbar correctly---without the width, the navbar extends well past
> > the right edge of the box containing the page contents. ARGH!

I left that setting alone in navbar.tmpl and I observe that the navbar
goes way too far off to the right.  So if that 150px setting is there to
fix that, it's not working on my setup.

I just checked http://crao.net/wiki and it exhibits this problem as
well.

Other problems:

1. The larger fonts look bad (i.e. h1, h2, etc).  They're jagged and not
scaled well.  I would say the base font is a little too large, then the
steps for each successive font are too big.  Thus the largest heading
fonts are enormous.

crao.net does not exhibit this problem.

2. The bottom toolbar does not float on the bottom of the screen,
instead it's stuck on the bottom of the actual page.  I assume that's
just because getting IE to support that is just too hard, so I'm not
particularly worried about it.

crao.net has this problem as well, but like I said this isn't a
showstopper.

3. A bigger bottom toolbar problem is that it doesn't scale in width
properly.  Even when the user is not logged in, it's still the same
width as if you were logged in (i.e. there is blank space on the left of
the toolbar for the icons only a logged-in user sees.

crao.net has this problem too.

4. The topbar is too tall - there is a gap above and below the wiki logo
text, when it should be flush.

I saw this same problem in my old 1.3.10 setup, and I seem to remember
it was due to some weirdness in the css for the topbar.  I fixed it then
and I suspect a diff of the css file will reveal where that is.

crao.net does not have this problem.

> Crao Theme used to work well ... until Reini changed stuff in it :) (oh
> ... a troll comes across the screen slowly walking ...)
> It used to be a table free theme ... so any table related stuff ...
>=20
> Well ... anyway, I changed some things in the theme, simplified the css,
> added some permission checked, etc ...
>=20
> Laurent (the co-author) will drop the tables again then we'll commit the
> new crao version.

I really like the clean, modern look of the Crao theme.  I really,
really hope we can get all the interface glitches worked out in that
theme before 1.3.11 final.  Arnaud, any help would be much appreciated,
and if you guys can get me that new crao theme I will be happy to test
it asap.

Administrative question: should I be filing all these problems in the
sf.net bug tracker?  I say yes because they are against files included
in phpwiki, but I just wanted to make sure that's the most effective way
to go.  Arnaud, do you check the Crao bugs that are posted there?

Oh, and ignore the fact that the topbar textlogo is all ugly in IE - I
have to stick that javascript hack for IE to make transparent PNGs work
back into my phpwiki.

Thanks,
P.
--=20=20
Philip J. Hollenback
ph...@po...
www.hollenback.net