Re: [Fwd: [Phpwiki-talk] Re: [phpwiki - Help] where can i get the nightly build]

[Dan K. <do...@ax...>]

On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 11:20:21 +0200, searchadm wrote:
>=A0Tried to use CVS but i seems to be to stupid :-x
>
>=A0I tried to use TortoiseCVS and WinCVS but i don't understand what
>=A0to do there. The Software connects but not more ??? =A0I'am no
>=A0devolopper and not interested wasting ours of my time only to get a
>=A0peace of software i need to make it run for the visitors. Sorry
>=A0this makes me angry. i know it's free of cost, but my web site is
>=A0also free of cost and so or so i spend neerly 6 hours a day to
>=A0support the visitors the end is reached. Is there a way to get it
>=A0easier?

On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 16:42:12 +0200, Reini Urban wrote:
>=A0These two lines are too complicated? It's even described on the
>=A0webpage.
>
>=A0co will need about a minute or so until it starts doing something.
>=A0if you want to see what's going on behind you can also do:
>
>=A0cvs -t -z3 -d:pserver:ano...@cv...:/cvsroot/phpwiki co
>=A0phpwiki
>
>=A0I agree that with any GUI (Tortoise or WinCVS) it looks very
>=A0complicated.

On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 16:31:25 -0500, Dan Frankowski wrote:
>=A0Reini, if you are using windows, it doesn't have a command-line
>=A0with cvs built in, so it's not just two lines. Clearly, since this
>=A0person is trying to use TortoiseCVS or WinCVS, they are using
>=A0windows. Anyway, even if it were two lines, there's no reason to
>=A0aggravate a sad person.
>
>=A0searchadm, for now you have to use CVS if you want the latest
>=A0version. If you want to apply the two cvs lines above that Reini
>=A0described, you might try installing cygwin
>=A0(http://cygwin.com/setup.exe), and make sure cvs install is turned
>=A0on. However, the truth is probably no one has time to support you
>=A0for free to the level that you need it. Sorry for your pain.

Not to go too offtopic here, but hopefully this will help searchadm and=
 others (especially Windows users) getting this project working from CVS:

1. DO NOT use a CVS GUI until you are familiar with the command-line=
 version, how to specify a CVSROOT, and loosely how CVS works.  Skim the=
 beginning of "the Cederqvist" (the official unofficial CVS manual) at:=
 https://www.cvshome.org/docs/manual/

2. Cygwin ( http://cygwin.com/ ), as Dan F. mentioned, is a great free=
 toolkit for getting real work done on a Windows box, and it's worth=
 installing, but don't use its CVS because it's not 100% compatible with the=
 GUIs you'll eventually want to use.  

3. Download and get familar with the free CVSNT: http://cvsnt.org/ .  

4. CVSNT will be the power behind the popular free CvsGui aka WinCVS:=
 http://wincvs.org/ .  Install this once you are comfortable with=
 command-line CVS and actually need to do somewhat complicated tasks. =
 You'll find its Python/Tcl macros powerful and convenient.

Notice the word "free" a lot?  All this stuff is out there and available for=
 anybody to use, all open source.  CVS has its warts, but it's time-tested=
 and very widespread, so go ahead and take the plunge.

And once you get CVS working, just type these two commands (one to log in,=
 the second to get the latest phpwiki module), and you'll magically have a=
 directory called "phpwiki" with the latest PhpWiki:
1. cvs -d:pserver:ano...@cv...:/cvsroot/phpwiki login
2. cvs -z3 -d:pserver:ano...@cv...:/cvsroot/phpwiki co=
 phpwiki

Good luck.

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Dan Kamins