Re: [Phpwiki-talk] Patch for UserPreferences link, notification pref help, notification subject line

[Reini U. <ru...@x-...>]

Dan Frankowski schrieb:
> Reini Urban wrote:
>> Dan Frankowski schrieb:
>>> Reini Urban wrote:
>> add this to your navbar:
>>     <?php if (!empty($user) && $user->isSignedIn()) { ?>
>>      <?=$s?><?= WikiLink(_("UserPreferences"), "","Preferences") ?>
>>     <?php } ?>

Will be added to the default navbar.tmpl, before "Admin".

> Sounds good. Well, I'm glad that it's in somewhere. I'd say:
> 
> a. It should be in the default theme.
> b. I would claim it should be as near to the username as possible. When 
> I think my username, I also think about preferences. Thus, I will leave 
> it in the signin bar in my copy, since that's where the username is. I 
> understand that you may disagree, and that's okay. Of course I'd prefer 
> it if that made it to the mainline, but not crucial.

And what I don't like is that navbar links look like actionbar buttons. 
(technically they are, but...)
I changed that in the latest "smaller" theme, where the navbar consists 
entirely of WikiLinks, and the actionbar of the rounded buttons.

>> Enter pages separated by space or comma. The wildcards * and ? are 
>> allowed as in file globbing. For example use * for all pages,
>> Php* for all all pages starting with Php,
>> and use Home? for the pages Home1, Home2, HomeA, but not HomeOther.
> 
> How about:
> 
> Enter pages separated by space or comma. Use wildcards * to match any 
> text, and ? to match any single character. Examples using *: * for all 
> pages, Php* for all pages starting with Php. Examples using ?: Home? for 
> the pages Home1, Home2, HomeA, but not HomeOther.
> 
> I am trying to avoid "file globbing." I know what that means, but most 
> people don't.

Adding it in parentheseis doesn't hurt for the users who know what it 
means, they will to skip the whole paragraph, because they know about
^.*$ and ?* then.

>> Maybe "PagechangeNotification"?
>> Seems to sound more unwiki to me.
> 
> I am not looking for unwiki (i.e., not Wiki-like). I'm looking for 
> understandable to any user, even those who don't know about wikis, even 
> nontechnical users. I think most users would understand "Page changed: 
> %s". I think it's easy and robust to filter on "] Page changed:".
> 
> I think "PageChange Notification" and "PagechangeNotification" are both 
> not normal English. They would not be published in a newspaper. They are 
> multiple words run together with unusual capitalization. 

Well, this is wiki and not a newspaper.
Users do strange - almost german :) -  things with words in wikis. Since 
this is just about a subject line, and not about webpage usability for 
random users, I don't think that "normal english" would overrule 
"technical english".

> Also, simple English favors short words. "changed" is 2 syllables, "notification" is 
> 5 syllables, so I am trying to avoid that word.

Sure.
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Reini Urban
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