Re: [Phpwiki-talk] Localisation of content pages / wiki words?

[Reini U. <ru...@x-...>]

I decided now to write a _WikiTranslation plugin, which helps
* on translating strings,
* pages - by using an external translator (Google) -, and
* displaying the translation matrix for certain lists,
   like pages, buttons, plugins and all wikiwords.

But no locale redirector yet, though I think it's a cool idea.

Norberto Meijome schrieb:
> I thought of a dictionary lookup, but I thought it was overkill--at 
> least for my needs.
> Virtual paths would be cool if I would have every page translated... 
> IMHO, it would be handy to present the translated version if it existed, 
> or the default if that was the only one...growing on a per case basis.
> 
> Do you mind me asking why " don't do it with plugins"?
> 
> TIA,
> Beto
> 
> Reini Urban wrote:
> 
>> we came to this conclusion: don't do it with plugins.
>> we do it with virtual paths on 
>> http://phpwiki.sf.net/demo/(en|de|es|fr|...)/ and do the linking 
>> manually.
>>
>> of course it would be fine to have a tool which helps in localizing 
>> new wikipages by lookup in a wikiword dictionary.
>>
>>
>> Norberto Meijome schrieb:
>>
>>> Hi list,
>>> Is there a plugin to aid with *content / wikiwords* localisation? 
>>> Auto-translation of wikiwords was a passing thought...but riddled 
>>> with problems.
>>>
>>> I know pgsrc has been localised to several languages (I'll be glad to 
>>> help with Spanish, BTW), but I'm looking for something that will help 
>>> visitors see the version of a page in the correct language.
>>>
>>> (excuse my poor knowledge of plugin syntax and phylosophy in the 
>>> following examples...)
>>> something like...
>>>
>>> <?plugin LocalisedVersion Lang="en-*" default="yes">
>>> [ALL TEXT FOR ALL ENGLISH LOCALES  HERE]
>>> <?plugin LocalisedVersion Lang="es-*">
>>> [ALL THE TEXT FOR SP LOCALES HERE]
>>>
>>> etc.
>>> and only the right text would show depending on your language.
>>> Notes : how to manage editing? show everything? enhance editing so 
>>> that only you get to edit the language you are seeing? that could be 
>>> problematic with versioning...maybe?
>>>
>>> Or maybe a combination of language detection and http redirection. 
>>> Say, in AWikiPage
>>>
>>> <?plugin LocalisedVersionRedirect Lang="en-*" 
>>> WikiWord="AWikiPageEnglish">
>>> <?plugin LocalisedVersionRedirect Lang="es-*" WikiWord="MiPaginaWiki">
>>>
>>> Note: how to handle defaults? maybe all in one plugin declaration?:
>>>
>>> <?plugin LocalisedVersionRedirect Values="[en-*, AWikiPageEnglish, 
>>> es-*,MiPaginaWeb,ab-*, HowDoYouSayWikiPageInArabic]" default="en-*" >
>>>
>>> ( or default="DefaultPageForNewLanguage").
>>>
>>> Or even better, include instead of redirection...
>>>
>>> Any suggestions on how to best implement this if not implemented yet? 
>>> I'm happy to do it :-)
>>>
>>> Best regards,
-- 
Reini Urban
http://xarch.tu-graz.ac.at/home/rurban/