Re: [Phpwiki-talk] Formal/informal German PhpWiki?

[Oliver B. <ob...@de...>]

Carsten Klapp wrote:

[...]

> The formal version would be ideally targeted towards businesses and
> other organizations who may be interested in starting their own
> PhpWiki, and who otherwise would not even be able to consider using
> PhpWiki because it currently employs the informal German language;

that's a good idea, but more important would be to have a _complete_ 
translation of the texts, i.e. the formatting help was not translated 
in 1.3.4 IIRC, and I believe there were other language related 
glitches.

I already considered translating the missing texts, but since the 
users understood the english version pretty good, I didn't continue.

> Also, I would like to see any formal notation (Sie) as the default for
> a German PhpWiki installation, but we can continue to offer the

The disadvantage is that the delay of the German versions likely 
would increase.

I agree with you that for a business environment in Germany the 
presentation of PhpWiki should be smoother. But that's IMHO more than 
the formal/informal question, a more foolproof introduction to 
PhpWiki would be useful.

I offered Wikis for three different groups because I was sure that 
they could profit from the simple cooperation principle, but found it 
very difficult to get them accepting it. The main problems were:

- too lazy to read the explanations
- didn't understand the explanations
- didn't dare to press "edit" to try how it works
- didn't want to share information

For _non-technical_ people, it seems to be a real hurdle. For the 
technical versed, it might be not so important to have a German 
version at all.

BTW: Only one of the three Wikis was really alive and (hopefully) 
useful for some period. Today I use Wiki as a kind of CMS or PIM, and 
I really love it because it's simple and has an open data format.

Another problem in a business environment could be the lack of access 
control (and user authentication). I didn't check the nightly 
snapshot for a while, is there any progress with PagePermissions?

Oliver