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From: Matthew M. <mcn...@tu...> - 2001-03-26 13:58:24
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Hello all, I would like some feedback on perhaps getting and irc channel or even ICQ to discuss the program. Please comment on how you folks would prefer to communicate outside of email. Thanks, Matthew McNaney |
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From: Alain F. <al...@va...> - 2001-03-26 14:13:05
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Hi, How about the "Developers Forum" on SourceForge, that has for some obscure reason been deleted ? ;) > -----Message d'origine----- > De : php...@li... > [mailto:php...@li...]De la part de > Matthew McNaney > Envoyé : lundi 26 mars 2001 15:55 > À : php...@li... > Objet : [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication > > > Hello all, > > I would like some feedback on perhaps getting and irc channel or even ICQ > to discuss the program. Please comment on how you folks would prefer to > communicate outside of email. > > Thanks, > Matthew McNaney > > > _______________________________________________ > Phpwebsite-developers mailing list > Php...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpwebsite-developers > > |
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From: Jason C. <cam...@xp...> - 2001-03-26 14:59:41
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I'd say IRC and/or the Developers Forum on SourceForge would be the fastest ways to talk. IRC would be good because it would be real-time chat and not waiting for someone to respond like in forums. > Hi, > > > How about the "Developers Forum" on SourceForge, that has for some > obscure reason been deleted ? ;) > >> -----Message d'origine----- >> De : php...@li... >> [mailto:php...@li...]De la part >> de Matthew McNaney >> Envoyé : lundi 26 mars 2001 15:55 >> À : php...@li... >> Objet : [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication >> >> >> Hello all, >> >> I would like some feedback on perhaps getting and irc channel or even >> ICQ to discuss the program. Please comment on how you folks would >> prefer to communicate outside of email. >> >> Thanks, >> Matthew McNaney >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Phpwebsite-developers mailing list >> Php...@li... >> http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpwebsite-developers >> >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Phpwebsite-developers mailing list > Php...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpwebsite-developers |
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From: Geoff S. <Ge...@Ho...> - 2001-03-26 16:03:40
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I'll pitch in another two cents on the communications topic. IRC would be fine. My offer of setting up a private chat on one of my servers stands. But, now I have further question: What about a venue that provides whiteboard, document display, and other visual stuff in addition to the written word? I'm thinking that it would be very handy to be able to stand at a white board together on occasion. Maybe even setup for voice conference calling? Geoff -----Original Message----- From: php...@li... [mailto:php...@li...]On Behalf Of Jason Campbell Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 9:08 AM To: php...@li... Subject: RE: [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication I'd say IRC and/or the Developers Forum on SourceForge would be the faste= st ways to talk. IRC would be good because it would be real-time chat and n= ot waiting for someone to respond like in forums. > Hi, > > > How about the "Developers Forum" on SourceForge, that has for some > obscure reason been deleted ? ;) > >> -----Message d'origine----- >> De : php...@li... >> [mailto:php...@li...]De la part >> de Matthew McNaney >> Envoy=E9 : lundi 26 mars 2001 15:55 >> =C0 : php...@li... >> Objet : [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication >> >> >> Hello all, >> >> I would like some feedback on perhaps getting and irc channel or even >> ICQ to discuss the program. Please comment on how you folks would >> prefer to communicate outside of email. >> >> Thanks, >> Matthew McNaney >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Phpwebsite-developers mailing list >> Php...@li... >> http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpwebsite-developers >> >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Phpwebsite-developers mailing list > Php...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpwebsite-developers _______________________________________________ Phpwebsite-developers mailing list Php...@li... http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpwebsite-developers |
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From: Aaron A. <aa...@wc...> - 2001-03-26 16:10:55
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Hey guys, Check out http://communityzero.com It's a great (free) tool for private conferencing/collaboration. Not only can you post documents, hold a forum discussion, and manage lists, but it also has instant messaging/chat. You can personalize your group to serve most purposes. (The interface is fairly intuitive as well). --- Aaron Adams From: "Geoff Staples" <Ge...@Ho...> Reply-To: php...@li... Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:03:29 -0600 To: <php...@li...> Subject: RE: [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication I'll pitch in another two cents on the communications topic. IRC would be fine. My offer of setting up a private chat on one of my servers stands. But, now I have further question: What about a venue that provides whiteboard, document display, and other visual stuff in addition to the written word? I'm thinking that it would be very handy to be able to stand at a white board together on occasion. Maybe even setup for voice conference calling? Geoff |
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From: Geoff S. <Ge...@Ho...> - 2001-03-26 17:36:32
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Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] CommunicationI haven't looked at communityzero. But, I like the idea of a third party service. I offered to setup a chat service on one of my servers. Now, someone else has offered to host one as well. So, when I say what follows, it is directed at me as well as everyone else. If we use something setup on one of our developers's sites, we are then tied into someone who may eventually lose interest or move on for another reason. Some may offer the services of their employer which could be revolked at any time. I own my servers and they are in a NOC, but that is a small consolation. So, I suggest that we use a third party service such as communityzero (which I haven't looke at) or, perhaps, Appalachian State can host Chat, whiteboard, etc. for us. They are the owner of the project, so we don't have to be concerned about them leaving the project. I'm still happy to host something if that is what we want to do. But, again, upon further reflection, it is probably better to use something hosted by Appalachian State or a thirdparty tool. Just as a reminder: I think that a whiteboard tool or something similar is really important for drawing class diagrams, ERD's, flowcharts, data flow diagrams, or whatever. Geoff -----Original Message----- From: php...@li... [mailto:php...@li...]On Behalf Of Aaron Adams Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 10:10 AM To: php...@li... Subject: Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication Hey guys, Check out http://communityzero.com It's a great (free) tool for private conferencing/collaboration. Not only can you post documents, hold a forum discussion, and manage lists, but it also has instant messaging/chat. You can personalize your group to serve most purposes. (The interface is fairly intuitive as well). --- Aaron Adams From: "Geoff Staples" <Ge...@Ho...> Reply-To: php...@li... Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:03:29 -0600 To: <php...@li...> Subject: RE: [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication I'll pitch in another two cents on the communications topic. IRC would be fine. My offer of setting up a private chat on one of my servers stands. But, now I have further question: What about a venue that provides whiteboard, document display, and other visual stuff in addition to the written word? I'm thinking that it would be very handy to be able to stand at a white board together on occasion. Maybe even setup for voice conference calling? Geoff |
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From: Alain F. <al...@va...> - 2001-03-26 18:08:44
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Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] CommunicationHi there,
Speaking from personal experience, I know that a group of X enthousiastic
developers is always trying to find the theoretically best technical
solution for collaboration. Then they start loosing the focus about what
it's really all about: getting things done. They spend countless E-mails
trying to find the optimal solution for collaborative work, team
development, and so on. The end result is that nothing gets done at all;
some of the developers might even start developing a collaboration tool in
order to get the work done better and faster... :)
Look, we have that fabulous tool called SourceForge. Why shall we not start
using that one and try to figure out all of its features before we look for
something different ?
Just agree on an IRC channel on any chat network (undernet or whatever) to
get the "real-time" collaboration thing right, and then let's start being
productive !
As for drawing ERD's, statecharts and any other diagram, I really wonder how
you could possibly do that in a productive way using a white-board type of
thing. I'm not particulary good at drawing an ERD schema containing 25
entities on a 400 by 300 pixel window using my mouse. Are you ? ;)
-----Message d'origine-----
De : php...@li...
[mailto:php...@li...]De la part de
Geoff Staples
Envoye : lundi 26 mars 2001 19:36
A : php...@li...
Objet : RE: [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication
I haven't looked at communityzero. But, I like the idea of a third party
service.
I offered to setup a chat service on one of my servers. Now, someone
else has offered to host one as well.
So, when I say what follows, it is directed at me as well as everyone
else.
If we use something setup on one of our developers's sites, we are then
tied into someone who may eventually lose interest or move on for another
reason.
Some may offer the services of their employer which could be revolked at
any time. I own my servers and they are in a NOC, but that is a small
consolation.
So, I suggest that we use a third party service such as communityzero
(which I haven't looke at) or, perhaps, Appalachian State can host Chat,
whiteboard, etc. for us. They are the owner of the project, so we don't have
to be concerned about them leaving the project.
I'm still happy to host something if that is what we want to do. But,
again, upon further reflection, it is probably better to use something
hosted by Appalachian State or a thirdparty tool.
Just as a reminder: I think that a whiteboard tool or something similar
is really important for drawing class diagrams, ERD's, flowcharts, data flow
diagrams, or whatever.
Geoff
-----Original Message-----
From: php...@li...
[mailto:php...@li...]On Behalf Of Aaron
Adams
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 10:10 AM
To: php...@li...
Subject: Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication
Hey guys,
Check out http://communityzero.com
It's a great (free) tool for private conferencing/collaboration. Not
only can you post documents, hold a forum discussion, and manage lists, but
it also has instant messaging/chat. You can personalize your group to serve
most purposes. (The interface is fairly intuitive as well).
---
Aaron Adams
From: "Geoff Staples" <Ge...@Ho...>
Reply-To: php...@li...
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:03:29 -0600
To: <php...@li...>
Subject: RE: [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication
I'll pitch in another two cents on the communications topic.
IRC would be fine. My offer of setting up a private chat on one of my
servers stands. But, now I have further question:
What about a venue that provides whiteboard, document display, and
other
visual stuff in addition to the written word?
I'm thinking that it would be very handy to be able to stand at a
white
board together on occasion.
Maybe even setup for voice conference calling?
Geoff
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From: Mike W. <wi...@ce...> - 2001-03-26 18:18:22
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Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] CommunicationThis is my first time posting =
to the developers list and I hope you don't mind. I've been watching all =
the list since phpWebSite began and I must commend everyone on the =
developers list on your civility, it doesn't happen too often from other =
projects I watched. I feel a sense that everyone is trying to stay that =
way as much as possible and that is good but it also seems that everyone =
might be going a bit to far and not wanting to step on someones toes. =
Everyone seems to have ideas that they bring to the table and then say =
"whatever the group decides". We,you,us, they, whoever need to get the =
focus and direction back to the project. =20
I think a chat-whiteboard for meeting is great and I agree with Geoff =
that it should be done some place neutral, but to spend a week on =
discussing on where to have discussions... well you know. =20
I guess what I would like to see is a "leader" make some very radical =
decisions based on input from everyone involved and then we follow that =
course.=20
I definately do not understand all the discussions on this list, but I =
do see what looks like a project becoming bogged down.=20
I apologize if I over stepped my bounds, but I believe this project is =
VERY exciting and has HUGE potential and I don't want to see it lose =
out.
Mike windsor
From: Geoff Staples=20
To: php...@li...=20
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 11:36 AM
Subject: RE: [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication
I haven't looked at communityzero. But, I like the idea of a third =
party service.
I offered to setup a chat service on one of my servers. Now, someone =
else has offered to host one as well.
So, when I say what follows, it is directed at me as well as =
everyone else.
If we use something setup on one of our developers's sites, we are =
then tied into someone who may eventually lose interest or move on for =
another reason.
Some may offer the services of their employer which could be =
revolked at any time. I own my servers and they are in a NOC, but that =
is a small consolation.
So, I suggest that we use a third party service such as =
communityzero (which I haven't looke at) or, perhaps, Appalachian State =
can host Chat, whiteboard, etc. for us. They are the owner of the =
project, so we don't have to be concerned about them leaving the =
project.
I'm still happy to host something if that is what we want to do. =
But, again, upon further reflection, it is probably better to use =
something hosted by Appalachian State or a thirdparty tool.
Just as a reminder: I think that a whiteboard tool or something =
similar is really important for drawing class diagrams, ERD's, =
flowcharts, data flow diagrams, or whatever.
Geoff
-----Original Message-----
From: php...@li... =
[mailto:php...@li...]On Behalf Of =
Aaron Adams
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 10:10 AM
To: php...@li...
Subject: Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication
Hey guys,
Check out http://communityzero.com
It's a great (free) tool for private conferencing/collaboration. Not =
only can you post documents, hold a forum discussion, and manage lists, =
but it also has instant messaging/chat. You can personalize your group =
to serve most purposes. (The interface is fairly intuitive as well).
---
Aaron Adams
From: "Geoff Staples" <Ge...@Ho...>
Reply-To: php...@li...
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:03:29 -0600
To: <php...@li...>
Subject: RE: [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication
I'll pitch in another two cents on the communications topic.
IRC would be fine. My offer of setting up a private chat on one of =
my
servers stands. But, now I have further question:
What about a venue that provides whiteboard, document display, and =
other
visual stuff in addition to the written word?
I'm thinking that it would be very handy to be able to stand at a =
white
board together on occasion.
Maybe even setup for voice conference calling?
Geoff
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From: Jason C. <cam...@xp...> - 2001-03-26 18:38:09
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Well, if you want a decision made then here ya go. We're using IRC on EFNet. I can setup a channel, I have friends with botnets that will gladly help keep the channel from getting taken over by someone. We should have a meeting this week to get all the ideas on the table. After that we should then decide what to start with doing first from the list of ideas thats formed. We'll need someone to take notes of the meeting or log the whole session of the channel. Anyone good at taking notes??? After that is done we should then have another meeting a few days after that to formulate what to start doing first. This meeting would be for the dev team only to write in stone what we want to do with the project and WHAT to do first. I.E. Redo the database, leave it alone, use ADODB or PEAR or whatever, you get what I mean. I also run my own web hosting company (Xplozive Media Technologies) and have my own servers (two) at my disposal running off my own bandwidth using FreeBSD, so I have no trouble hosting anything that we need for the project. This is what I think should happen so if no one has anything else to say about this, this is how it should be. You wanted a decision so there it is.... :) Jason Campbell Xplozive Media Technologies www.xplozivemedia.com phpWebSite Developer > Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] CommunicationThis is my first time posting > to the developers list and I hope you don't mind. I've been watching > all the list since phpWebSite began and I must commend everyone on the > developers list on your civility, it doesn't happen too often from > other projects I watched. I feel a sense that everyone is trying to > stay that way as much as possible and that is good but it also seems > that everyone might be going a bit to far and not wanting to step on > someones toes. Everyone seems to have ideas that they bring to the > table and then say "whatever the group decides". We,you,us, they, > whoever need to get the focus and direction back to the project. I > think a chat-whiteboard for meeting is great and I agree with Geoff > that it should be done some place neutral, but to spend a week on > discussing on where to have discussions... well you know. I guess > what I would like to see is a "leader" make some very radical decisions > based on input from everyone involved and then we follow that course. > I definately do not understand all the discussions on this list, but I > do see what looks like a project becoming bogged down. I apologize if > I over stepped my bounds, but I believe this project is VERY exciting > and has HUGE potential and I don't want to see it lose out. > > Mike windsor > > > From: Geoff Staples > To: php...@li... > Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 11:36 AM > Subject: RE: [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication > > > I haven't looked at communityzero. But, I like the idea of a third > party service. I offered to setup a chat service on one of my > servers. Now, someone else has offered to host one as well. So, > when I say what follows, it is directed at me as well as everyone > else. If we use something setup on one of our developers's sites, > we are then tied into someone who may eventually lose interest or > move on for another reason. Some may offer the services of their > employer which could be revolked at any time. I own my servers and > they are in a NOC, but that is a small consolation. So, I suggest > that we use a third party service such as communityzero (which I > haven't looke at) or, perhaps, Appalachian State can host Chat, > whiteboard, etc. for us. They are the owner of the project, so we > don't have to be concerned about them leaving the project. I'm > still happy to host something if that is what we want to do. But, > again, upon further reflection, it is probably better to use > something hosted by Appalachian State or a thirdparty tool. Just as > a reminder: I think that a whiteboard tool or something similar is > really important for drawing class diagrams, ERD's, flowcharts, > data flow diagrams, or whatever. > > Geoff > > > -----Original Message----- > From: php...@li... > [mailto:php...@li...]On Behalf > Of Aaron Adams Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 10:10 AM > To: php...@li... > Subject: Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication > > > > Hey guys, > > Check out http://communityzero.com > > It's a great (free) tool for private conferencing/collaboration. > Not only can you post documents, hold a forum discussion, and > manage lists, but it also has instant messaging/chat. You can > personalize your group to serve most purposes. (The interface is > fairly intuitive as well). --- > Aaron Adams > > > > From: "Geoff Staples" <Ge...@Ho...> > Reply-To: php...@li... > Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:03:29 -0600 > To: <php...@li...> > Subject: RE: [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication > > > > > I'll pitch in another two cents on the communications topic. > > IRC would be fine. My offer of setting up a private chat on one > of my servers stands. But, now I have further question: > > What about a venue that provides whiteboard, document display, > and other visual stuff in addition to the written word? > > I'm thinking that it would be very handy to be able to stand at a > white board together on occasion. > > Maybe even setup for voice conference calling? > > Geoff |
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From: Geoff S. <Ge...@Ho...> - 2001-03-26 20:25:59
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That decision is fine with me. HOWEVER, I would like to ask for a clarification. My understanding is that Appalachian State University owns phpWebsite. In my mind, while suggestions, support, etc. should always be welcome, someone (or several) authorized by Appalachian State should in fact make decisions once they think they've received enough input. In any event, I'd like to know who has the authority to make the decisions, etc. I'm perfectly happy to have Jason stepup and take charge on this issue. (THANK YOU, JASON!) But, it's probably a good idea to know how decisions will be made before something more contentious comes up. Geoff -----Original Message----- From: php...@li... [mailto:php...@li...]On Behalf Of Jason Campbell Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 12:47 PM To: php...@li... Subject: Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication Well, if you want a decision made then here ya go. We're using IRC on EFNet. I can setup a channel, I have friends with botnets that will gladly help keep the channel from getting taken over by someone. We should have a meeting this week to get all the ideas on the table. After that we should then decide what to start with doing first from the list of ideas thats formed. We'll need someone to take notes of the meeting or log the whole session of the channel. Anyone good at taking notes??? After that is done we should then have another meeting a few days after that to formulate what to start doing first. This meeting would be for the dev team only to write in stone what we want to do with the project and WHAT to do first. I.E. Redo the database, leave it alone, use ADODB or PEAR or whatever, you get what I mean. I also run my own web hosting company (Xplozive Media Technologies) and have my own servers (two) at my disposal running off my own bandwidth using FreeBSD, so I have no trouble hosting anything that we need for the project. This is what I think should happen so if no one has anything else to say about this, this is how it should be. You wanted a decision so there it is.... :) Jason Campbell Xplozive Media Technologies www.xplozivemedia.com phpWebSite Developer > Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] CommunicationThis is my first time posting > to the developers list and I hope you don't mind. I've been watching > all the list since phpWebSite began and I must commend everyone on the > developers list on your civility, it doesn't happen too often from > other projects I watched. I feel a sense that everyone is trying to > stay that way as much as possible and that is good but it also seems > that everyone might be going a bit to far and not wanting to step on > someones toes. Everyone seems to have ideas that they bring to the > table and then say "whatever the group decides". We,you,us, they, > whoever need to get the focus and direction back to the project. I > think a chat-whiteboard for meeting is great and I agree with Geoff > that it should be done some place neutral, but to spend a week on > discussing on where to have discussions... well you know. I guess > what I would like to see is a "leader" make some very radical decisions > based on input from everyone involved and then we follow that course. > I definately do not understand all the discussions on this list, but I > do see what looks like a project becoming bogged down. I apologize if > I over stepped my bounds, but I believe this project is VERY exciting > and has HUGE potential and I don't want to see it lose out. > > Mike windsor > > > From: Geoff Staples > To: php...@li... > Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 11:36 AM > Subject: RE: [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication > > > I haven't looked at communityzero. But, I like the idea of a third > party service. I offered to setup a chat service on one of my > servers. Now, someone else has offered to host one as well. So, > when I say what follows, it is directed at me as well as everyone > else. If we use something setup on one of our developers's sites, > we are then tied into someone who may eventually lose interest or > move on for another reason. Some may offer the services of their > employer which could be revolked at any time. I own my servers and > they are in a NOC, but that is a small consolation. So, I suggest > that we use a third party service such as communityzero (which I > haven't looke at) or, perhaps, Appalachian State can host Chat, > whiteboard, etc. for us. They are the owner of the project, so we > don't have to be concerned about them leaving the project. I'm > still happy to host something if that is what we want to do. But, > again, upon further reflection, it is probably better to use > something hosted by Appalachian State or a thirdparty tool. Just as > a reminder: I think that a whiteboard tool or something similar is > really important for drawing class diagrams, ERD's, flowcharts, > data flow diagrams, or whatever. > > Geoff > > > -----Original Message----- > From: php...@li... > [mailto:php...@li...]On Behalf > Of Aaron Adams Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 10:10 AM > To: php...@li... > Subject: Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication > > > > Hey guys, > > Check out http://communityzero.com > > It's a great (free) tool for private conferencing/collaboration. > Not only can you post documents, hold a forum discussion, and > manage lists, but it also has instant messaging/chat. You can > personalize your group to serve most purposes. (The interface is > fairly intuitive as well). --- > Aaron Adams > > > > From: "Geoff Staples" <Ge...@Ho...> > Reply-To: php...@li... > Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:03:29 -0600 > To: <php...@li...> > Subject: RE: [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication > > > > > I'll pitch in another two cents on the communications topic. > > IRC would be fine. My offer of setting up a private chat on one > of my servers stands. But, now I have further question: > > What about a venue that provides whiteboard, document display, > and other visual stuff in addition to the written word? > > I'm thinking that it would be very handy to be able to stand at a > white board together on occasion. > > Maybe even setup for voice conference calling? > > Geoff _______________________________________________ Phpwebsite-developers mailing list Php...@li... http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpwebsite-developers |
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From: Jason C. <cam...@xp...> - 2001-03-26 20:30:52
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My opinion is everything should go through Brian but we do need someone to finally make decisions on everything thats being discussed, I really don't care who does it as long as its being done. I'd rather piss someone off then sit around waiting for someone to say something :) And now Brian says something :)....anyways...thats my luck.... I'd still rather have a meeting of the group before March 30th...Myself I'd rather have one tomorrow night but I know thats probably not possible.... > That decision is fine with me. > > HOWEVER, I would like to ask for a clarification. My understanding is > that Appalachian State University owns phpWebsite. > > In my mind, while suggestions, support, etc. should always be welcome, > someone (or several) authorized by Appalachian State should in fact > make decisions once they think they've received enough input. > > In any event, I'd like to know who has the authority to make the > decisions, etc. > > I'm perfectly happy to have Jason stepup and take charge on this issue. > (THANK YOU, JASON!) > > But, it's probably a good idea to know how decisions will be made > before something more contentious comes up. > > Geoff > > -----Original Message----- > From: php...@li... > [mailto:php...@li...]On Behalf Of > Jason Campbell > Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 12:47 PM > To: php...@li... > Subject: Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication > > > Well, if you want a decision made then here ya go. We're using IRC on > EFNet. I can setup a channel, I have friends with botnets that will > gladly help keep the channel from getting taken over by someone. > > We should have a meeting this week to get all the ideas on the table. > After that we should then decide what to start with doing first from > the list of ideas thats formed. > > We'll need someone to take notes of the meeting or log the whole > session of the channel. Anyone good at taking notes??? > > After that is done we should then have another meeting a few days after > that to formulate what to start doing first. This meeting would be for > the dev team only to write in stone what we want to do with the project > and WHAT to do first. I.E. Redo the database, leave it alone, use > ADODB or PEAR or whatever, you get what I mean. > > I also run my own web hosting company (Xplozive Media Technologies) and > have my own servers (two) at my disposal running off my own bandwidth > using FreeBSD, so I have no trouble hosting anything that we need for > the project. > > This is what I think should happen so if no one has anything else to > say about this, this is how it should be. > > You wanted a decision so there it is.... :) > > Jason Campbell > Xplozive Media Technologies > www.xplozivemedia.com > phpWebSite Developer > >> Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] CommunicationThis is my first time posting >> to the developers list and I hope you don't mind. I've been watching >> all the list since phpWebSite began and I must commend everyone on the >> developers list on your civility, it doesn't happen too often from >> other projects I watched. I feel a sense that everyone is trying to >> stay that way as much as possible and that is good but it also seems >> that everyone might be going a bit to far and not wanting to step on >> someones toes. Everyone seems to have ideas that they bring to the >> table and then say "whatever the group decides". We,you,us, they, >> whoever need to get the focus and direction back to the project. I >> think a chat-whiteboard for meeting is great and I agree with Geoff >> that it should be done some place neutral, but to spend a week on >> discussing on where to have discussions... well you know. I guess >> what I would like to see is a "leader" make some very radical >> decisions based on input from everyone involved and then we follow >> that course. I definately do not understand all the discussions on >> this list, but I do see what looks like a project becoming bogged >> down. I apologize if I over stepped my bounds, but I believe this >> project is VERY exciting and has HUGE potential and I don't want to >> see it lose out. >> >> Mike windsor >> >> >> From: Geoff Staples >> To: php...@li... >> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 11:36 AM >> Subject: RE: [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication >> >> >> I haven't looked at communityzero. But, I like the idea of a third >> party service. I offered to setup a chat service on one of my >> servers. Now, someone else has offered to host one as well. So, >> when I say what follows, it is directed at me as well as everyone >> else. If we use something setup on one of our developers's sites, >> we are then tied into someone who may eventually lose interest or >> move on for another reason. Some may offer the services of their >> employer which could be revolked at any time. I own my servers and >> they are in a NOC, but that is a small consolation. So, I suggest >> that we use a third party service such as communityzero (which I >> haven't looke at) or, perhaps, Appalachian State can host Chat, >> whiteboard, etc. for us. They are the owner of the project, so we >> don't have to be concerned about them leaving the project. I'm >> still happy to host something if that is what we want to do. But, >> again, upon further reflection, it is probably better to use >> something hosted by Appalachian State or a thirdparty tool. Just >> as a reminder: I think that a whiteboard tool or something similar >> is really important for drawing class diagrams, ERD's, flowcharts, >> data flow diagrams, or whatever. >> >> Geoff >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: php...@li... >> [mailto:php...@li...]On >> Behalf Of Aaron Adams Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 10:10 AM >> To: php...@li... >> Subject: Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication >> >> >> >> Hey guys, >> >> Check out http://communityzero.com >> >> It's a great (free) tool for private conferencing/collaboration. >> Not only can you post documents, hold a forum discussion, and >> manage lists, but it also has instant messaging/chat. You can >> personalize your group to serve most purposes. (The interface is >> fairly intuitive as well). --- >> Aaron Adams >> >> >> >> From: "Geoff Staples" <Ge...@Ho...> >> Reply-To: php...@li... >> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:03:29 -0600 >> To: <php...@li...> >> Subject: RE: [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication >> >> >> >> >> I'll pitch in another two cents on the communications topic. >> >> IRC would be fine. My offer of setting up a private chat on one >> of my servers stands. But, now I have further question: >> >> What about a venue that provides whiteboard, document display, >> and other visual stuff in addition to the written word? >> >> I'm thinking that it would be very handy to be able to stand at >> a white board together on occasion. >> >> Maybe even setup for voice conference calling? >> >> Geoff > > > > _______________________________________________ > Phpwebsite-developers mailing list > Php...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpwebsite-developers > > > _______________________________________________ > Phpwebsite-developers mailing list > Php...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpwebsite-developers |
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From: Mike W. <wi...@ce...> - 2001-03-26 20:36:34
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I believe Brian Brown is the head guy at ASU and he must not be available today. I don't think Appalachian State "owns" it if you want to use that word, but the project was definitely started and is hosted there. I think most of the ASU guys must not be unavailable today. I haven't heard from anyone of them. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geoff Staples" <Ge...@Ho...> To: <php...@li...> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 2:25 PM Subject: RE: [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication > That decision is fine with me. > > HOWEVER, I would like to ask for a clarification. My understanding is that > Appalachian State University owns phpWebsite. > > In my mind, while suggestions, support, etc. should always be welcome, > someone (or several) authorized by Appalachian State should in fact make > decisions once they think they've received enough input. > > In any event, I'd like to know who has the authority to make the decisions, > etc. > > I'm perfectly happy to have Jason stepup and take charge on this issue. > (THANK YOU, JASON!) > > But, it's probably a good idea to know how decisions will be made before > something more contentious comes up. > > Geoff > > -----Original Message----- > From: php...@li... > [mailto:php...@li...]On Behalf Of > Jason Campbell > Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 12:47 PM > To: php...@li... > Subject: Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication > > > Well, if you want a decision made then here ya go. We're using IRC on > EFNet. I can setup a channel, I have friends with botnets that will gladly > help keep the channel from getting taken over by someone. > > We should have a meeting this week to get all the ideas on the table. > After that we should then decide what to start with doing first from the > list of ideas thats formed. > > We'll need someone to take notes of the meeting or log the whole session of > the channel. Anyone good at taking notes??? > > After that is done we should then have another meeting a few days after > that to formulate what to start doing first. This meeting would be for the > dev team only to write in stone what we want to do with the project and > WHAT to do first. I.E. Redo the database, leave it alone, use ADODB or > PEAR or whatever, you get what I mean. > > I also run my own web hosting company (Xplozive Media Technologies) and > have my own servers (two) at my disposal running off my own bandwidth using > FreeBSD, so I have no trouble hosting anything that we need for the project. > > This is what I think should happen so if no one has anything else to say > about this, this is how it should be. > > You wanted a decision so there it is.... :) > > Jason Campbell > Xplozive Media Technologies > www.xplozivemedia.com > phpWebSite Developer > > > Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] CommunicationThis is my first time posting > > to the developers list and I hope you don't mind. I've been watching > > all the list since phpWebSite began and I must commend everyone on the > > developers list on your civility, it doesn't happen too often from > > other projects I watched. I feel a sense that everyone is trying to > > stay that way as much as possible and that is good but it also seems > > that everyone might be going a bit to far and not wanting to step on > > someones toes. Everyone seems to have ideas that they bring to the > > table and then say "whatever the group decides". We,you,us, they, > > whoever need to get the focus and direction back to the project. I > > think a chat-whiteboard for meeting is great and I agree with Geoff > > that it should be done some place neutral, but to spend a week on > > discussing on where to have discussions... well you know. I guess > > what I would like to see is a "leader" make some very radical decisions > > based on input from everyone involved and then we follow that course. > > I definately do not understand all the discussions on this list, but I > > do see what looks like a project becoming bogged down. I apologize if > > I over stepped my bounds, but I believe this project is VERY exciting > > and has HUGE potential and I don't want to see it lose out. > > > > Mike windsor > > > > > > From: Geoff Staples > > To: php...@li... > > Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 11:36 AM > > Subject: RE: [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication > > > > > > I haven't looked at communityzero. But, I like the idea of a third > > party service. I offered to setup a chat service on one of my > > servers. Now, someone else has offered to host one as well. So, > > when I say what follows, it is directed at me as well as everyone > > else. If we use something setup on one of our developers's sites, > > we are then tied into someone who may eventually lose interest or > > move on for another reason. Some may offer the services of their > > employer which could be revolked at any time. I own my servers and > > they are in a NOC, but that is a small consolation. So, I suggest > > that we use a third party service such as communityzero (which I > > haven't looke at) or, perhaps, Appalachian State can host Chat, > > whiteboard, etc. for us. They are the owner of the project, so we > > don't have to be concerned about them leaving the project. I'm > > still happy to host something if that is what we want to do. But, > > again, upon further reflection, it is probably better to use > > something hosted by Appalachian State or a thirdparty tool. Just as > > a reminder: I think that a whiteboard tool or something similar is > > really important for drawing class diagrams, ERD's, flowcharts, > > data flow diagrams, or whatever. > > > > Geoff > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: php...@li... > > [mailto:php...@li...]On Behalf > > Of Aaron Adams Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 10:10 AM > > To: php...@li... > > Subject: Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication > > > > > > > > Hey guys, > > > > Check out http://communityzero.com > > > > It's a great (free) tool for private conferencing/collaboration. > > Not only can you post documents, hold a forum discussion, and > > manage lists, but it also has instant messaging/chat. You can > > personalize your group to serve most purposes. (The interface is > > fairly intuitive as well). --- > > Aaron Adams > > > > > > > > From: "Geoff Staples" <Ge...@Ho...> > > Reply-To: php...@li... > > Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:03:29 -0600 > > To: <php...@li...> > > Subject: RE: [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication > > > > > > > > > > I'll pitch in another two cents on the communications topic. > > > > IRC would be fine. My offer of setting up a private chat on one > > of my servers stands. But, now I have further question: > > > > What about a venue that provides whiteboard, document display, > > and other visual stuff in addition to the written word? > > > > I'm thinking that it would be very handy to be able to stand at a > > white board together on occasion. > > > > Maybe even setup for voice conference calling? > > > > Geoff > > > > _______________________________________________ > Phpwebsite-developers mailing list > Php...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpwebsite-developers > > > _______________________________________________ > Phpwebsite-developers mailing list > Php...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpwebsite-developers > > |
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From: Jeremy A. <ja...@tu...> - 2001-03-27 01:08:46
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This is just to let everyone know. We are not trying to ignore everyone. I promise! We try to take an active part but are hampered by many things. Brian Lambith, Adam, Charles and I are students and our schedules are changing every day. Brian Brown and Matt are ASU employees and have other commitments as well as phpWebSite. So that said we als do a lot of developing and not a lot of talking some days so we are quiet sometimes. :- ) Hope that clears up a few thing. PS, Brian Brown is the head guy with Matt second in command. I do a lot of the server stuff. (The command line it my friend!) > I believe Brian Brown is the head guy at ASU and he must not be > available today. I don't think Appalachian State "owns" it if you want > to use that word, but the project was definitely started and is hosted > there. I think most of the ASU guys must not be unavailable today. I > haven't heard from anyone of them. > > Mike > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Geoff Staples" <Ge...@Ho...> > To: <php...@li...> > Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 2:25 PM > Subject: RE: [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication > > >> That decision is fine with me. >> >> HOWEVER, I would like to ask for a clarification. My understanding is >> that Appalachian State University owns phpWebsite. >> >> In my mind, while suggestions, support, etc. should always be welcome, >> someone (or several) authorized by Appalachian State should in fact >> make decisions once they think they've received enough input. >> >> In any event, I'd like to know who has the authority to make the > decisions, >> etc. >> >> I'm perfectly happy to have Jason stepup and take charge on this >> issue. (THANK YOU, JASON!) >> >> But, it's probably a good idea to know how decisions will be made >> before something more contentious comes up. >> >> Geoff >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: php...@li... >> [mailto:php...@li...]On Behalf Of >> Jason Campbell >> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 12:47 PM >> To: php...@li... >> Subject: Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication >> >> >> Well, if you want a decision made then here ya go. We're using IRC on >> EFNet. I can setup a channel, I have friends with botnets that will > gladly >> help keep the channel from getting taken over by someone. >> >> We should have a meeting this week to get all the ideas on the table. >> After that we should then decide what to start with doing first from >> the list of ideas thats formed. >> >> We'll need someone to take notes of the meeting or log the whole >> session > of >> the channel. Anyone good at taking notes??? >> >> After that is done we should then have another meeting a few days >> after that to formulate what to start doing first. This meeting would >> be for > the >> dev team only to write in stone what we want to do with the project >> and WHAT to do first. I.E. Redo the database, leave it alone, use >> ADODB or PEAR or whatever, you get what I mean. >> >> I also run my own web hosting company (Xplozive Media Technologies) >> and have my own servers (two) at my disposal running off my own >> bandwidth > using >> FreeBSD, so I have no trouble hosting anything that we need for the > project. >> >> This is what I think should happen so if no one has anything else to >> say about this, this is how it should be. >> >> You wanted a decision so there it is.... :) >> >> Jason Campbell >> Xplozive Media Technologies >> www.xplozivemedia.com >> phpWebSite Developer >> >> > Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] CommunicationThis is my first time >> > posting to the developers list and I hope you don't mind. I've been >> > watching all the list since phpWebSite began and I must commend >> > everyone on the developers list on your civility, it doesn't happen >> > too often from other projects I watched. I feel a sense that >> > everyone is trying to stay that way as much as possible and that is >> > good but it also seems that everyone might be going a bit to far and >> > not wanting to step on someones toes. Everyone seems to have ideas >> > that they bring to the table and then say "whatever the group >> > decides". We,you,us, they, whoever need to get the focus and >> > direction back to the project. I think a chat-whiteboard for >> > meeting is great and I agree with Geoff that it should be done some >> > place neutral, but to spend a week on discussing on where to have >> > discussions... well you know. I guess what I would like to see is >> > a "leader" make some very radical decisions based on input from >> > everyone involved and then we follow that course. I definately do >> > not understand all the discussions on this list, but I do see what >> > looks like a project becoming bogged down. I apologize if I over >> > stepped my bounds, but I believe this project is VERY exciting and >> > has HUGE potential and I don't want to see it lose out. >> > >> > Mike windsor >> > >> > >> > From: Geoff Staples >> > To: php...@li... >> > Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 11:36 AM >> > Subject: RE: [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication >> > >> > >> > I haven't looked at communityzero. But, I like the idea of a >> > third party service. I offered to setup a chat service on one of >> > my servers. Now, someone else has offered to host one as well. >> > So, when I say what follows, it is directed at me as well as >> > everyone else. If we use something setup on one of our >> > developers's sites, we are then tied into someone who may >> > eventually lose interest or move on for another reason. Some may >> > offer the services of their employer which could be revolked at >> > any time. I own my servers and they are in a NOC, but that is a >> > small consolation. So, I suggest that we use a third party >> > service such as communityzero (which I haven't looke at) or, >> > perhaps, Appalachian State can host Chat, whiteboard, etc. for >> > us. They are the owner of the project, so we don't have to be >> > concerned about them leaving the project. I'm still happy to >> > host something if that is what we want to do. But, again, upon >> > further reflection, it is probably better to use something >> > hosted by Appalachian State or a thirdparty tool. Just as a >> > reminder: I think that a whiteboard tool or something similar is >> > really important for drawing class diagrams, ERD's, flowcharts, >> > data flow diagrams, or whatever. >> > >> > Geoff >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: php...@li... >> > [mailto:php...@li...]On >> > Behalf Of Aaron Adams Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 10:10 AM >> > To: php...@li... >> > Subject: Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication >> > >> > >> > >> > Hey guys, >> > >> > Check out http://communityzero.com >> > >> > It's a great (free) tool for private conferencing/collaboration. >> > Not only can you post documents, hold a forum discussion, and >> > manage lists, but it also has instant messaging/chat. You can >> > personalize your group to serve most purposes. (The interface is >> > fairly intuitive as well). --- >> > Aaron Adams >> > >> > >> > >> > From: "Geoff Staples" <Ge...@Ho...> >> > Reply-To: php...@li... >> > Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:03:29 -0600 >> > To: <php...@li...> >> > Subject: RE: [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > I'll pitch in another two cents on the communications topic. >> > >> > IRC would be fine. My offer of setting up a private chat on >> > one of my servers stands. But, now I have further question: >> > >> > What about a venue that provides whiteboard, document display, >> > and other visual stuff in addition to the written word? >> > >> > I'm thinking that it would be very handy to be able to stand >> > at a white board together on occasion. >> > >> > Maybe even setup for voice conference calling? >> > >> > Geoff >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Phpwebsite-developers mailing list >> Php...@li... >> http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpwebsite-developers >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Phpwebsite-developers mailing list >> Php...@li... >> http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpwebsite-developers >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Phpwebsite-developers mailing list > Php...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpwebsite-developers |
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From: Jeremy A. <ja...@tu...> - 2001-03-27 00:52:29
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A quick note on what ill do once we start the meeting on IRC. Ill log the who event and then post it on the site after the event. The squirrelmail dev. team does this and it is very informative for those not on that team. I also say this meeting should be closed. Not to sound closed but we do not need anyone not on the dev. team there. It will be hard just to get everyone there and having extra people could get in the way. This is also what the IRC log on the website will be for. > Well, if you want a decision made then here ya go. We're using IRC on > EFNet. I can setup a channel, I have friends with botnets that will > gladly help keep the channel from getting taken over by someone. > > We should have a meeting this week to get all the ideas on the table. > After that we should then decide what to start with doing first from > the list of ideas thats formed. > > We'll need someone to take notes of the meeting or log the whole > session of the channel. Anyone good at taking notes??? > > After that is done we should then have another meeting a few days after > that to formulate what to start doing first. This meeting would be > for the dev team only to write in stone what we want to do with the > project and WHAT to do first. I.E. Redo the database, leave it alone, > use ADODB or PEAR or whatever, you get what I mean. > > I also run my own web hosting company (Xplozive Media Technologies) and > have my own servers (two) at my disposal running off my own bandwidth > using FreeBSD, so I have no trouble hosting anything that we need for > the project. > > This is what I think should happen so if no one has anything else to > say about this, this is how it should be. > > You wanted a decision so there it is.... :) > > Jason Campbell > Xplozive Media Technologies > www.xplozivemedia.com > phpWebSite Developer > >> Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] CommunicationThis is my first time posting >> to the developers list and I hope you don't mind. I've been watching >> all the list since phpWebSite began and I must commend everyone on the >> developers list on your civility, it doesn't happen too often from >> other projects I watched. I feel a sense that everyone is trying to >> stay that way as much as possible and that is good but it also seems >> that everyone might be going a bit to far and not wanting to step on >> someones toes. Everyone seems to have ideas that they bring to the >> table and then say "whatever the group decides". We,you,us, they, >> whoever need to get the focus and direction back to the project. I >> think a chat-whiteboard for meeting is great and I agree with Geoff >> that it should be done some place neutral, but to spend a week on >> discussing on where to have discussions... well you know. I guess >> what I would like to see is a "leader" make some very radical >> decisions based on input from everyone involved and then we follow >> that course. I definately do not understand all the discussions on >> this list, but I do see what looks like a project becoming bogged >> down. I apologize if I over stepped my bounds, but I believe this >> project is VERY exciting and has HUGE potential and I don't want to >> see it lose out. >> >> Mike windsor >> >> >> From: Geoff Staples >> To: php...@li... >> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 11:36 AM >> Subject: RE: [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication >> >> >> I haven't looked at communityzero. But, I like the idea of a third >> party service. I offered to setup a chat service on one of my >> servers. Now, someone else has offered to host one as well. So, >> when I say what follows, it is directed at me as well as everyone >> else. If we use something setup on one of our developers's sites, >> we are then tied into someone who may eventually lose interest or >> move on for another reason. Some may offer the services of their >> employer which could be revolked at any time. I own my servers and >> they are in a NOC, but that is a small consolation. So, I suggest >> that we use a third party service such as communityzero (which I >> haven't looke at) or, perhaps, Appalachian State can host Chat, >> whiteboard, etc. for us. They are the owner of the project, so we >> don't have to be concerned about them leaving the project. I'm >> still happy to host something if that is what we want to do. But, >> again, upon further reflection, it is probably better to use >> something hosted by Appalachian State or a thirdparty tool. Just >> as a reminder: I think that a whiteboard tool or something similar >> is really important for drawing class diagrams, ERD's, flowcharts, >> data flow diagrams, or whatever. >> >> Geoff >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: php...@li... >> [mailto:php...@li...]On >> Behalf Of Aaron Adams Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 10:10 AM >> To: php...@li... >> Subject: Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication >> >> >> >> Hey guys, >> >> Check out http://communityzero.com >> >> It's a great (free) tool for private conferencing/collaboration. >> Not only can you post documents, hold a forum discussion, and >> manage lists, but it also has instant messaging/chat. You can >> personalize your group to serve most purposes. (The interface is >> fairly intuitive as well). --- >> Aaron Adams >> >> >> >> From: "Geoff Staples" <Ge...@Ho...> >> Reply-To: php...@li... >> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:03:29 -0600 >> To: <php...@li...> >> Subject: RE: [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication >> >> >> >> >> I'll pitch in another two cents on the communications topic. >> >> IRC would be fine. My offer of setting up a private chat on one >> of my servers stands. But, now I have further question: >> >> What about a venue that provides whiteboard, document display, >> and other visual stuff in addition to the written word? >> >> I'm thinking that it would be very handy to be able to stand at >> a white board together on occasion. >> >> Maybe even setup for voice conference calling? >> >> Geoff > > > > _______________________________________________ > Phpwebsite-developers mailing list > Php...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpwebsite-developers |
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From: Jeremy A. <ja...@tu...> - 2001-03-27 00:39:04
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On the topic of hosting services thank you all for offering. I do not want to step on anyone who has offered and/or has it already setup. I can set up any GPL package we may need on one of our servers at Appstate. That way we do not have to go to sprat places for different services. On the communication part I believe IRC is a good way to go for certain events. A IRC meeting would benefit us so we can all talk real time about developer info. That said we all live around the world and for all of us to show up at once is a big deal. This is why i say we only do the IRC stuff once in a while and we user the mailing list most of the time. > Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] CommunicationI haven't looked at > communityzero. But, I like the idea of a third party service. > I offered to setup a chat service on one of my servers. Now, someone > else > has offered to host one as well. > So, when I say what follows, it is directed at me as well as everyone > else. > If we use something setup on one of our developers's sites, we are > then > tied into someone who may eventually lose interest or move on for > another reason. > Some may offer the services of their employer which could be revolked > at > any time. I own my servers and they are in a NOC, but that is a small > consolation. > So, I suggest that we use a third party service such as communityzero > (which I haven't looke at) or, perhaps, Appalachian State can host > Chat, whiteboard, etc. for us. They are the owner of the project, so we > don't have to be concerned about them leaving the project. > I'm still happy to host something if that is what we want to do. But, > again, upon further reflection, it is probably better to use something > hosted by Appalachian State or a thirdparty tool. > Just as a reminder: I think that a whiteboard tool or something > similar is > really important for drawing class diagrams, ERD's, flowcharts, data > flow diagrams, or whatever. > > Geoff > > > -----Original Message----- > From: php...@li... > [mailto:php...@li...]On Behalf Of > Aaron Adams > Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 10:10 AM > To: php...@li... > Subject: Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication > > > > Hey guys, > > Check out http://communityzero.com > > It's a great (free) tool for private conferencing/collaboration. Not > only > can you post documents, hold a forum discussion, and manage lists, but > it also has instant messaging/chat. You can personalize your group to > serve most purposes. (The interface is fairly intuitive as well). > --- > Aaron Adams > > > > From: "Geoff Staples" <Ge...@Ho...> > Reply-To: php...@li... > Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:03:29 -0600 > To: <php...@li...> > Subject: RE: [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication > > > > > I'll pitch in another two cents on the communications topic. > > IRC would be fine. My offer of setting up a private chat on one of > my servers stands. But, now I have further question: > > What about a venue that provides whiteboard, document display, and > other visual stuff in addition to the written word? > > I'm thinking that it would be very handy to be able to stand at a > white board together on occasion. > > Maybe even setup for voice conference calling? > > Geoff |
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From: Jason C. <cam...@xp...> - 2001-03-26 16:10:57
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I think that would be good when we start coding and actually changing the system. I'd like a meeting now so we can all just see where everyone else is coming from and would like to take the project from where it currently is at. And I'd like to do this very soon if possible with the rest of the dev team. I know WebEX has the features your talking about, my company has a contract with them to do conferencing when we introduce new Oracle apps to our remote offices but it costs $$$ to use on a regular basis :) Unless you know of something we could use for free??? > I'll pitch in another two cents on the communications topic. > > IRC would be fine. My offer of setting up a private chat on one of my > servers stands. But, now I have further question: > > What about a venue that provides whiteboard, document display, and > other visual stuff in addition to the written word? > > I'm thinking that it would be very handy to be able to stand at a white > board together on occasion. > > Maybe even setup for voice conference calling? > > Geoff > > > -----Original Message----- > From: php...@li... > [mailto:php...@li...]On Behalf Of > Jason Campbell > Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 9:08 AM > To: php...@li... > Subject: RE: [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication > > > I'd say IRC and/or the Developers Forum on SourceForge would be the > fastest ways to talk. IRC would be good because it would be real-time > chat and not waiting for someone to respond like in forums. > >> Hi, >> >> >> How about the "Developers Forum" on SourceForge, that has for some >> obscure reason been deleted ? ;) >> >>> -----Message d'origine----- >>> De : php...@li... >>> [mailto:php...@li...]De la part >>> de Matthew McNaney >>> Envoyé : lundi 26 mars 2001 15:55 >>> À : php...@li... >>> Objet : [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication >>> >>> >>> Hello all, >>> >>> I would like some feedback on perhaps getting and irc channel or even >>> ICQ to discuss the program. Please comment on how you folks would >>> prefer to communicate outside of email. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Matthew McNaney >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Phpwebsite-developers mailing list >>> Php...@li... >>> http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpwebsite-developers >>> >>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Phpwebsite-developers mailing list >> Php...@li... >> http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpwebsite-developers > > > > _______________________________________________ > Phpwebsite-developers mailing list > Php...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpwebsite-developers > > > _______________________________________________ > Phpwebsite-developers mailing list > Php...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpwebsite-developers |
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From: Christian S. <chr...@sc...> - 2001-03-26 16:19:14
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Jason Campbell wrote: > > I know WebEX has the features your talking about, my company has a contract > with them to do conferencing when we introduce new Oracle apps to our > remote offices but it costs $$$ to use on a regular basis :) Unless you > know of something we could use for free??? Up to four comcurrent users WebEX is free, so it could be easily used for specified projects. Do you know any WebEX official? Maybe they want to support an upcoming open source killer application... Chris |
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From: Jason C. <cam...@xp...> - 2001-03-26 16:22:42
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I don't know anyone at WebEX, I do know we paid them alot to be able to use them on a full-time basis. > Jason Campbell wrote: >> >> I know WebEX has the features your talking about, my company has a >> contract with them to do conferencing when we introduce new Oracle >> apps to our remote offices but it costs $$$ to use on a regular basis >> :) Unless you know of something we could use for free??? > > Up to four comcurrent users WebEX is free, so it could be easily used > for specified projects. Do you know any WebEX official? Maybe they want > to support an upcoming open source killer application... > > Chris > > _______________________________________________ > Phpwebsite-developers mailing list > Php...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpwebsite-developers |
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From: Karsten D. <k.d...@tu...> - 2001-03-26 14:17:32
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On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 08:55:08AM -0500, Matthew McNaney wrote: > Hello all, >=20 > I would like some feedback on perhaps getting and irc channel or even ICQ= =20 > to discuss the program. Please comment on how you folks would prefer to= =20 > communicate outside of email. I would prefer IRC. Besides that, the idea is good! Much better than having a developers-only web based forum on sourceforge (email is soo much more convenient/faster/reliable)... Regards, Karsten --=20 Why do we have to hide from the police, daddy? Because we use emacs, son. They use vi. ----------------------------- mailto:k.d...@tu... w=B3: http://www.k-fish.de/ gpg: http://www.k-fish.de/mykeys.gpg |
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From: Geoff S. <Ge...@Ho...> - 2001-03-26 15:53:19
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I will offer to setup phpChat on one of my servers for the use of the team at no charge. Geoff -----Original Message----- From: php...@li... [mailto:php...@li...]On Behalf Of Matthew McNaney Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 7:55 AM To: php...@li... Subject: [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication Hello all, I would like some feedback on perhaps getting and irc channel or even ICQ to discuss the program. Please comment on how you folks would prefer to communicate outside of email. Thanks, Matthew McNaney _______________________________________________ Phpwebsite-developers mailing list Php...@li... http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpwebsite-developers |
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From: Jason C. <cam...@xp...> - 2001-03-26 16:05:20
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I can do this too if we want to go web-based with the Chat instead of IRC. I've got med-chat (made in php) setup on my site now but I haven't used it other than to test it out and it seems great and pretty fast too. So I've got that at our disposal too if we wanted to use it...Anyways.... > I will offer to setup phpChat on one of my servers for the use of the > team at no charge. > > Geoff > > -----Original Message----- > From: php...@li... > [mailto:php...@li...]On Behalf Of > Matthew McNaney > Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 7:55 AM > To: php...@li... > Subject: [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication > > > Hello all, > > I would like some feedback on perhaps getting and irc channel or even > ICQ to discuss the program. Please comment on how you folks would > prefer to communicate outside of email. > > Thanks, > Matthew McNaney > > > _______________________________________________ > Phpwebsite-developers mailing list > Php...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpwebsite-developers > > > _______________________________________________ > Phpwebsite-developers mailing list > Php...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpwebsite-developers |
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From: Christian S. <chr...@sc...> - 2001-03-26 16:15:31
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Geoff Staples wrote: > > I will offer to setup phpChat on one of my servers for the use of the team > at no charge. I dunno phpChat, but all I php chats I ever used were a pure horror in performance far away from real time. I could offer a really fast password-protected java based chat room for phpWS developers on my company's web server. Any interest? Chris |
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