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[Phpwebsite-developers] Edited Web Pages get published without approval

[Julie J. <jj...@cu...>]

I'm working on a large site for a private catholic highschool using 
phpwebsite 0.9.3-3.  They need web pages created or edited by one user 
(editor) to be approved by another (publisher) before getting 
published.
I have the editor user set as an administrator, belonging to a group 
with preferences all unchecked except for:

  Web Pages
  Create Pages
  Edit Pages
  Delete Pages

  which all have been checked.

  When I create a new web page as an editor user I get told it has been 
sent to the administrator for approval. However when I edit an 
exsisting page created by any user (including the editor user) it gets 
saved to the database. This occurs in web pages NOT set as a mainpage. 
Is this a bug or just not a feature? Or am I missing something?

I'd convert the web pages into articles for this functionality, but 
there are already over at least 30 of them.

I have not found anything in the CVS on pagemaster different from what 
I have on the server.  No word of this problem on the forums or this 
email list.

Any help will be appreciated,
____________
Julia A. Jacobs
Currant Media
Specialists in Self-Reliant Marketing
www.currantmedia.com
(407) 261-9351 Fax: (407) 339-4404

Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] Edited Web Pages get published without approval

[Shaun M. <sh...@ae...>]

On 9 Aug 2004, at 17:31, Julie J. wrote:

> I'm working on a large site for a private catholic highschool using 
> phpwebsite 0.9.3-3.  They need web pages created or edited by one user 
> (editor) to be approved by another (publisher) before getting 
> published.
> I have the editor user set as an administrator, belonging to a group 
> with preferences all unchecked except for:
>
>  Web Pages
>  Create Pages
>  Edit Pages
>  Delete Pages
>
>  which all have been checked.
>
>  When I create a new web page as an editor user I get told it has been 
> sent to the administrator for approval.

Really? I wouldn't have thought it would do that with 'Create Pages' 
checked? I would have thought they'd go straight through without 
touching the approval mod. Also with the editor set as 'Admin' I'd have 
thought they'd be able to get to the approval mod themselves.


> However when I edit an exsisting page created by any user (including 
> the editor user) it gets saved to the database. This occurs in web 
> pages NOT set as a mainpage. Is this a bug or just not a feature? Or 
> am I missing something?
>

I think you'll have to wait until there's some decent workflow and 
revision control in phpWebSite before it'll work fully as the current 
system is just a permission based system rather than forcing changes to 
go through Approval.

Incidentally team, if your listening, take a look at Bricolage - 
http://www.bricolage.cc/ which has very good workflow.

> I'd convert the web pages into articles for this functionality, but 
> there are already over at least 30 of them.
>

Eloi added some revision control in the Article mod in the last 
version. It has a conversion script to convert existing pagemaster 
pages. I'm not sure if it'll solve the workflow problem though.

Shaun
aegis design - http://www.aegisdesign.co.uk

Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] Edited Web Pages get published without approval

[Eloi G. <el...@re...>]

>>  When I create a new web page as an editor user I get told it has 
>> been sent to the administrator for approval.
>

The only way you can get stuff automatically approved is if you have a 
checkmark next to the Approval Module itself.

phpwsArticle Manager version 2.5 has a strange problem with approvals 
that I'm trying to track down right now.  It'll be fixed in version 
2.6.   To answer the unasked question -- yes, articles will go back for 
approval if it is edited by someone w/o Approval authorization.

-Eloi-

Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] Edited Web Pages get published without approval

[Ryan R. <to...@gm...>]

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 17:06:32 +0100, Shaun Murray
<sh...@ae...> wrote:
> On 9 Aug 2004, at 17:31, Julie J. wrote:
> 
> > I'm working on a large site for a private catholic highschool using
> > phpwebsite 0.9.3-3.  They need web pages created or edited by one user
> > (editor) to be approved by another (publisher) before getting
> > published.
> > I have the editor user set as an administrator, belonging to a group
> > with preferences all unchecked except for:
> >
> >  Web Pages
> >  Create Pages
> >  Edit Pages
> >  Delete Pages
> >
> >  which all have been checked.
> >
> >  When I create a new web page as an editor user I get told it has been
> > sent to the administrator for approval.
> 
> Really? I wouldn't have thought it would do that with 'Create Pages'
> checked? I would have thought they'd go straight through without
> touching the approval mod. Also with the editor set as 'Admin' I'd have
> thought they'd be able to get to the approval mod themselves.

Actually, the 'Pre-Approved'  permission is what allows it to go
through without sitting in the approval queue, Admin or not.

> 
> > However when I edit an exsisting page created by any user (including
> > the editor user) it gets saved to the database. This occurs in web
> > pages NOT set as a mainpage. Is this a bug or just not a feature? Or
> > am I missing something?
> >

No, I noticed this same issue.  As Shaun stated, this is a workflow
problem that I have decided to wait for 0.9.4 to hopefully eliminate. 
The major complication is that approval queues and change queues with
at least single layer rollback is complicated functionality in and of
itself, especially when you're having to touch several different
modules in the process.  Matt would have more insight on workflow
handling in 094.

> 
> I think you'll have to wait until there's some decent workflow and
> revision control in phpWebSite before it'll work fully as the current
> system is just a permission based system rather than forcing changes to
> go through Approval.
> 
> Incidentally team, if your listening, take a look at Bricolage -
> http://www.bricolage.cc/ which has very good workflow.
> 
> > I'd convert the web pages into articles for this functionality, but
> > there are already over at least 30 of them.
> >
> 
> Eloi added some revision control in the Article mod in the last
> version. It has a conversion script to convert existing pagemaster
> pages. I'm not sure if it'll solve the workflow problem though.
> 
> Shaun
> aegis design - http://www.aegisdesign.co.uk
> 
> 
> 
> 
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