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Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] phpWebSite 1.3.0

[matt <ma...@tu...>]

Both. I will produce an RC today or tomorrow. Normally I put out module 
updates first, then create an RC from the result. I am going to produce 
the RC from a finalized subversion export this time. Once I am satisfied 
with the RC, I will finalize the module updates then create a final release.

I am still working in subversion right now. I need to polish PageSmith. 
Once done with that, I'll update dependencies and boost files. Then I'll 
put out the RC and contact y'all.
I'll be running the RC against 1.2.0 to debug.

Thanks for offering to help :)
Matt

Verdon Vaillancourt wrote:
> Hi Matt,
>
> Are you looking for tests of an upgrade or fresh install?
>
> rgds,
> verdon
>
>
> On 23-Jul-07, at 8:49 AM, matt wrote:
>
>   
>> If anyone would care to test the next release candidate, I'd  
>> appreciate it.
>>     
>
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Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] phpWebSite 1.3.0

[Verdon V. <ve...@gm...>]

Hi Matt,

Are you looking for tests of an upgrade or fresh install?

rgds,
verdon


On 23-Jul-07, at 8:49 AM, matt wrote:

> If anyone would care to test the next release candidate, I'd  
> appreciate it.

[Phpwebsite-developers] phpWebSite 1.3.0

[matt <ma...@tu...>]

Good day,

I am going to work on a 1.3.0 release this week. The reason I am 
notifying you now is that I feel it will be a little incomplete. There 
are some very good bugs and feature requests in SF but I need to skip 
some of them for now.

We have four university module deadlines for August. Since two modules 
require the latest core version, I am pushing the 1.3.0 release. The 
good news is that once we get past August, we should be done with 
university projects for the first time in three years.

1.3.0 will contain two new modules: Signup and PageSmith. The first 
module's title aptly describes its function. The second module is an 
alternative to Web Pages. It is a template-based page creation tool. 
Though it will be included in the next version, it doesn't have any 
conversion tools yet. Versioning is also absent.

If anyone would care to test the next release candidate, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks,
Matt

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[Phpwebsite-developers] Safari 3.0 beta

[Shaun M. <sh...@ae...>]

Out now. Free download from http://www.apple.com/safari/ for Mac OSX  
10.4.9, Windows XP and Vista.

yes, that's right Windows!


It's blinding fast, especially the Javascript as it's blazing through  
the Scriptaculous/Prototype AJAX code I've been using on a customer's  
site and actually makes Sourceforge's menus work fast-ish.

 From my brief testing, TinyMCE seems to work without any problems.  
FCKEditor still falls back due to browser sniffing. Simple WYSIWYG  
also works fine.


Shaun
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[Phpwebsite-developers] Goldbay.com looking for PHP help

[<do...@go...>]

I wanted to pass that along.  Owner is a really cool guy with some  
great ideas.  It would likely be part time, at least at first.  His  
distributorship is really taking off.

Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] Release Candidate

[Matthew M. <ma...@tu...>]

On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 21:30 +0100, Shaun Murray wrote:
> The point was made on phpwsforums  
> that if new users are just downloading and unpacking to see what's in  
> a CMS, not having to hunt around for a compatible unarchiver is  
> beneficial to that fresh out the box new product smell.
> 
> How about using ZIP? Supported by Windows and Mac without any 3rd  
> party tools required.

Yes, we can do that. For stable I'll produce a zip and tarball.

Thanks,
Matt

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Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] Release Candidate

[Shaun M. <sh...@ae...>]

Testing now.


Can I suggest you don't use .tgz for distribution.

Apparently common Windows unarchivers don't know what a .tgz is even  
if they do know what a .tar.gz is. The point was made on phpwsforums  
that if new users are just downloading and unpacking to see what's in  
a CMS, not having to hunt around for a compatible unarchiver is  
beneficial to that fresh out the box new product smell.

How about using ZIP? Supported by Windows and Mac without any 3rd  
party tools required.



On 9 May 2007, at 19:06, Matthew McNaney wrote:

> I have released a candidate for phpWebSite 1.2.0 today. You can get it
> here:
> http://phpwebsite.appstate.edu/downloads/rc/phpwebsite_1_2_0_RC.tgz
>
> Lots of new stuff so if you could test, I'd appreciate it.
>
> Thanks to everyone who helped with bugs and feature requests.
>
> Matt
>
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[Phpwebsite-developers] Release Candidate

[Matthew M. <ma...@tu...>]

I have released a candidate for phpWebSite 1.2.0 today. You can get it
here:
http://phpwebsite.appstate.edu/downloads/rc/phpwebsite_1_2_0_RC.tgz

Lots of new stuff so if you could test, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks to everyone who helped with bugs and feature requests. 

Matt

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Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] Issues running with php command line

[Shaun M. <sh...@ae...>]

On 4 May 2007, at 12:42, Verdon Vaillancourt wrote:

>
> I'm in the same boat as Shaun and use pretty much the same setup. I
> do know from much forum trawling that when using php in cgi mode that
> file ownership and permissions are even more critical than otherwise.
> Could that be the cause of some of the trouble you're having? I
> believe the files must be owned by the user running the php-cgi as
> well as having the executable bit set, and that folders you might
> normally have set to user:webserver and 775 need to be user:user 755.
>

Yep. If you 777 files/folders then under phpsuexec it'll throw a 500  
error until you change them. It therefore forces people to stop using  
insecure permissions. That's a good thing, but I think the downsides  
outweigh that.

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Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] Issues running with php command line

[Verdon V. <ve...@ve...>]

On 4-May-07, at 2:55 AM, Shaun Murray wrote:

>
> On 3 May 2007, at 23:18, Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET wrote:
>
>>>
>>>>  I'm trying to run under CGIWRAP for Php, which is forcing me to
>>>>  run via the command line. In doing so, I really can't seem to get
>>>>  too far
>>>>  on this.
>>>
>>> My lack of response is due to my inexperience with running php in  
>>> cgi
>>> mode. Should anyone have insight what can be changed to enable the
>>> script in this environment, I'd be happy to make the changes.
>>>
>> 	I'm being told from the CGIWRAP people that it should "WORK",
>> but when I post my CGIWRAP config, I get a deafening silence.......
>>
>> 	What are others using for PHP security?
>
> I've used phpsuexec in the past which runs PHP as a CGI.I It's common
> on cPanel based servers. Mostly I don't though. It's too restrictive.
> It doesn't force you to use the commandline though from what I
> remember of it.
>
> For the types of attacks I get I find mod_security, a decent firewall
> and a couple of changes to my mail server are enough to work with.
> More work for me perhaps but less restrictions on my users, namely
> not having .htaccess use, which is the biggest restriction with
> phpsuexec and most of the cgi methods.
>
> I know most of my users too and watch any new users I don't.

I'm in the same boat as Shaun and use pretty much the same setup. I  
do know from much forum trawling that when using php in cgi mode that  
file ownership and permissions are even more critical than otherwise.  
Could that be the cause of some of the trouble you're having? I  
believe the files must be owned by the user running the php-cgi as  
well as having the executable bit set, and that folders you might  
normally have set to user:webserver and 775 need to be user:user 755.

verdon

Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] Issues running with php command line

[Shaun M. <sh...@ae...>]

On 3 May 2007, at 23:18, Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET wrote:

>>
>>>  I'm trying to run under CGIWRAP for Php, which is forcing me to
>>>  run via the command line. In doing so, I really can't seem to get
>>>  too far
>>>  on this.
>>
>> My lack of response is due to my inexperience with running php in cgi
>> mode. Should anyone have insight what can be changed to enable the
>> script in this environment, I'd be happy to make the changes.
>>
> 	I'm being told from the CGIWRAP people that it should "WORK",
> but when I post my CGIWRAP config, I get a deafening silence.......
>
> 	What are others using for PHP security?

I've used phpsuexec in the past which runs PHP as a CGI.I It's common  
on cPanel based servers. Mostly I don't though. It's too restrictive.  
It doesn't force you to use the commandline though from what I  
remember of it.

For the types of attacks I get I find mod_security, a decent firewall  
and a couple of changes to my mail server are enough to work with.  
More work for me perhaps but less restrictions on my users, namely  
not having .htaccess use, which is the biggest restriction with  
phpsuexec and most of the cgi methods.

I know most of my users too and watch any new users I don't.


Shaun
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Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] Issues running with php command line

[Tuc at T-B-O-H.N. <ml...@t-...>]

> 
> >  I'm trying to run under CGIWRAP for Php, which is forcing me to
> >  run via the command line. In doing so, I really can't seem to get  
> >  too far
> >  on this.
> 
> My lack of response is due to my inexperience with running php in cgi
> mode. Should anyone have insight what can be changed to enable the
> script in this environment, I'd be happy to make the changes.
> 
	I'm being told from the CGIWRAP people that it should "WORK",
but when I post my CGIWRAP config, I get a deafening silence.......

	What are others using for PHP security?

			Thanks, Tuc

Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] Issues running with php command line

[Matthew M. <ma...@tu...>]

>  I'm trying to run under CGIWRAP for Php, which is forcing me to
>  run via the command line. In doing so, I really can't seem to get  
>  too far
>  on this.

My lack of response is due to my inexperience with running php in cgi
mode. Should anyone have insight what can be changed to enable the
script in this environment, I'd be happy to make the changes.


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Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] Issues running with php command line

[Shaun M. <sh...@ae...>]

It's not supposed to work via the command line AFAIK, although it's  
certainly an interesting idea for initial installation.


On 1 May 2007, at 18:40, Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET wrote:

> Hi,
>
> 	To start:
>
> 	OS - FreeBSD 4
> 	Web Server - Apache 1.3.37
> 	Database - Mysql 4.1.22
> 	PHP - 4.4.4 with Suhosin-Patch 0.9.6 	
> 	phpWebSite - Out of box, unconfigured
>
> 	I'm trying to run under CGIWRAP for Php, which is forcing me to
> run via the command line. In doing so, I really can't seem to get  
> too far
> on this.
>
> 	Out of the box, I try to run the "index.php" and nothing
> returns :
>
> vjofn# php index.php
> vjofn#
>
> 	If I look at the script, it wants to redirect me to "./setup/ 
> index.php".
> So if I start that...
>
> vjofn# php index.php |more
> session.auto_start must be set to 0 for phpWebSite to work. Please  
> review your p
> hp.ini file.
>
> 	Ok, not a problem, lets make it happy...
>
> vjofn# php -dsession.auto_start=0 index.php | head
> <html>
> <head>
> <title>phpWebSite 1.1.0 - Directory Permissions</title>
> <style type="text/css">
> body {
>  background-color : #ADB583;
>  font-size : 100%;
>  font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
>  color : #0E1662;
> }
>
> 	Which isn't bad, except since its running from the command line,
> not the Apache module, its expected to return Content Type headers and
> possibly other things.....
>
> 	Is there something special I need to tweak/do first before being
> able to run with the command line module, not apache mod_php?
>
> 			Thanks, Tuc
>
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Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] Issues running with php command line

[Tuc at T-B-O-H.N. <ml...@t-...>]

Hi,

	Good news and bad news....

	Good news : I found there is another program, php-cgi that DOES give
me the headers. So now I get them, index.php redirects to setup/index.php .

	Bad news: Even though I try to attempt to override the 
session.auto_start via either the command line, or pointing to a new
php.ini.... It doesn't accept it. 

	So back at square one.

	Still looking for help.

			Tuc
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 	To start:
> 
> 	OS - FreeBSD 4
> 	Web Server - Apache 1.3.37
> 	Database - Mysql 4.1.22
> 	PHP - 4.4.4 with Suhosin-Patch 0.9.6 	
> 	phpWebSite - Out of box, unconfigured
> 
> 	I'm trying to run under CGIWRAP for Php, which is forcing me to
> run via the command line. In doing so, I really can't seem to get too far
> on this.
> 
> 	Out of the box, I try to run the "index.php" and nothing 
> returns :
> 
> vjofn# php index.php 
> vjofn#
> 
> 	If I look at the script, it wants to redirect me to "./setup/index.php".
> So if I start that...
> 
> vjofn# php index.php |more
> session.auto_start must be set to 0 for phpWebSite to work. Please review your p
> hp.ini file.
> 
> 	Ok, not a problem, lets make it happy...
> 
> vjofn# php -dsession.auto_start=0 index.php | head
> <html>
> <head>
> <title>phpWebSite 1.1.0 - Directory Permissions</title>
> <style type="text/css">
> body {
>  background-color : #ADB583;
>  font-size : 100%;
>  font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
>  color : #0E1662;
> }
> 
> 	Which isn't bad, except since its running from the command line,
> not the Apache module, its expected to return Content Type headers and 
> possibly other things.....
> 
> 	Is there something special I need to tweak/do first before being
> able to run with the command line module, not apache mod_php?
> 
> 			Thanks, Tuc

[Phpwebsite-developers] Issues running with php command line

[Tuc at T-B-O-H.N. <ml...@t-...>]

Hi,

	To start:

	OS - FreeBSD 4
	Web Server - Apache 1.3.37
	Database - Mysql 4.1.22
	PHP - 4.4.4 with Suhosin-Patch 0.9.6 	
	phpWebSite - Out of box, unconfigured

	I'm trying to run under CGIWRAP for Php, which is forcing me to
run via the command line. In doing so, I really can't seem to get too far
on this.

	Out of the box, I try to run the "index.php" and nothing 
returns :

vjofn# php index.php 
vjofn#

	If I look at the script, it wants to redirect me to "./setup/index.php".
So if I start that...

vjofn# php index.php |more
session.auto_start must be set to 0 for phpWebSite to work. Please review your p
hp.ini file.

	Ok, not a problem, lets make it happy...

vjofn# php -dsession.auto_start=0 index.php | head
<html>
<head>
<title>phpWebSite 1.1.0 - Directory Permissions</title>
<style type="text/css">
body {
 background-color : #ADB583;
 font-size : 100%;
 font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
 color : #0E1662;
}

	Which isn't bad, except since its running from the command line,
not the Apache module, its expected to return Content Type headers and 
possibly other things.....

	Is there something special I need to tweak/do first before being
able to run with the command line module, not apache mod_php?

			Thanks, Tuc

[Phpwebsite-developers] Approaching 1.2.0

[Matthew M. <ma...@tu...>]

Hi all,

I am gearing up for a 1.2.0 release. The current subversion checkout
contains updates for all packages. I will be testing new installs, 1.0.0
and 1.1.0 updates and conversions. Once I am satisfied with its
stability, I will push the packages and create RC 1.2.0.

I welcome any testing you can provide. There are two remaining tasks I
want to complete before the RC
1) Fix the File Cabinet conversion. It is still using the old module
method.
2) Rewrite the method for listing pages in DBPager.

Thanks for everyone's help in fixing bugs. Special thanks to Verdon who
helped get the File Cabinet rewrite on its feet.

Have a good weekend,
Matt

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Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] ohloh stats

[Shaun M. <sh...@ae...>]

On 24 Apr 2007, at 14:51, Matthew McNaney wrote:

> Amazing. Thanks Shaun.
>

Slightly depressing though if you look at the 'What you would have  
earned if you made $55,000 a year' stat! They're useful stats for  
showing how much is invested in the project to potential users so  
they know the value behind 'free'.

> P.S. Your BB code split is in subversion.
>

Spotted that earlier, thanks.

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Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] ohloh stats

[Matthew M. <ma...@tu...>]

Amazing. Thanks Shaun.

P.S. Your BB code split is in subversion.

On Tue, 2007-04-24 at 12:37 +0100, Shaun Murray wrote:
> Did you know there's 15 years of development time spent on v1.x ?  
> 62,555 lines of code.
> 
> http://www.ohloh.net/projects/4949
> 
> It's so far not managed to index the 0.x code but I'd bet that's more.
> 
> The Community project also manages 14 years of development.
> 
> http://www.ohloh.net/projects/4976
> 
> Blindman is top developer.
> 
> 
> Shaun
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Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] ohloh stats

[Verdon V. <ve...@ve...>]

That's interesting stuff :)

On 24-Apr-07, at 7:37 AM, Shaun Murray wrote:

> Did you know there's 15 years of development time spent on v1.x ?
> 62,555 lines of code.
>
> http://www.ohloh.net/projects/4949
>
> It's so far not managed to index the 0.x code but I'd bet that's more.
>
> The Community project also manages 14 years of development.
>
> http://www.ohloh.net/projects/4976
>
> Blindman is top developer.
>
>
> Shaun

[Phpwebsite-developers] ohloh stats

[Shaun M. <sh...@ae...>]

Did you know there's 15 years of development time spent on v1.x ?  
62,555 lines of code.

http://www.ohloh.net/projects/4949

It's so far not managed to index the 0.x code but I'd bet that's more.

The Community project also manages 14 years of development.

http://www.ohloh.net/projects/4976

Blindman is top developer.


Shaun
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Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] SVN easy access

[Kenneth P. <ken...@gm...>]

Done...

Kenneth

On 4/17/07, Shaun Murray <sh...@ae...> wrote:
>
> Can someone with access to the Appstate website stick a block on the
> side pointing to where to get the source code please? ie. the info
> from...
>
>
> http://phpwebsite.appstate.edu/blog/1224
>
>
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Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] SVN easy access

[Shaun M. <sh...@ae...>]

On 17 Apr 2007, at 20:50, Gregory Meiste wrote:

> Shaun,
> The SVN info can already be found on the Downloads page.
>

Ah, wasn't there last time I looked so I've had that bookmarked.

Still, it'd be handy with a direct link on the side.

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Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] SVN easy access

[Gregory M. <gre...@gm...>]

Shaun,
The SVN info can already be found on the Downloads page.

Hope that helps,
Greg

On 4/17/07, Shaun Murray <sh...@ae...> wrote:
> Can someone with access to the Appstate website stick a block on the
> side pointing to where to get the source code please? ie. the info
> from...
>
>
> http://phpwebsite.appstate.edu/blog/1224
>
>
> Shaun
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[Phpwebsite-developers] SVN easy access

[Shaun M. <sh...@ae...>]

Can someone with access to the Appstate website stick a block on the  
side pointing to where to get the source code please? ie. the info  
from...


http://phpwebsite.appstate.edu/blog/1224


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