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From: Alain F. <al...@va...> - 2001-04-07 09:59:04
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Christian, Cool, that's some great news ! > -----Message d'origine----- > De : php...@li... > [mailto:php...@li...]De la part de > Christian Schims > Envoye : samedi 7 avril 2001 10:34 > A : Php...@li... > Objet : [Phpwebsite-developers] New language file > > > Hi out there, > > in accordance with Brian and Alain (who did the french translation) I am > going to prepare a completely new language file for phpWebSite. The actual > [[TRANSLATE]] statements contain fragments of phrases and commands, but no > variables. This system is very unflexible and does not fit different needs > for different syntactical rules in foreign languages. > > At first I wanted to do this work after the re-coding is > finished. But Alain > and some others convinced me to start right now. Finally I'm in the urgent > need of a working german version as well. > > I will add a documentation to each translate statement as well containing > file name, approximate line number and a short description. > > Since this takes some time, I hopefully will be ready at easter. > > Chris > > > _______________________________________________ > Phpwebsite-developers mailing list > Php...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpwebsite-developers > |
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From: Christian S. <chr...@sc...> - 2001-04-07 08:34:07
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Hi out there, in accordance with Brian and Alain (who did the french translation) I am going to prepare a completely new language file for phpWebSite. The actual [[TRANSLATE]] statements contain fragments of phrases and commands, but no variables. This system is very unflexible and does not fit different needs for different syntactical rules in foreign languages. At first I wanted to do this work after the re-coding is finished. But Alain and some others convinced me to start right now. Finally I'm in the urgent need of a working german version as well. I will add a documentation to each translate statement as well containing file name, approximate line number and a short description. Since this takes some time, I hopefully will be ready at easter. Chris |
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From: Mike W. <wi...@ce...> - 2001-04-07 04:16:28
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Hi, I've been following everything here and at the other portal sites and seen the article on phpNuke about a Users file area "module" that would give users access to there own file storage space like OpenACS (www.openacs.org). . In the article http://www.phpnuke.org/article.php?sid=1444&mode=thread&order=0 they mention they have a lot of work to do as far as quotas and such so I got to looking around and found a php script written for just such a thing. You can find it here http://www.seattleserver.com/httpfs.htm I got it running as a test and seems okay but haven't really played with it yet and wouldn't have any idea on how to make it a plugin so I sent this as something to look at. Thanks, Mike windsor |
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From: Jason C. <cam...@xp...> - 2001-04-06 10:43:06
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This is actually a type of idea I wanted for my site. The ability for the user to move boxes and delete them too! Thats pretty slick. Its just like this cgi based portal system I looked at. It had this same ability and even more for the end user. Jason Campbell Xplozive Media Technologies > I thougth I would show you guys this, if you've seen this already > forget it. This is a really cool idea and I think this is a lot like > the direction phpWebSite is looking for if I'm not mistaken. If not I > think the concept is VERY cool. > > You can see it in action here, > http://www.northern.ca/projects/phpwidgets/index.php3 or on > Sourceforge http://sourceforge.net/projects/phpwidgets/ > > > winzor > > > _______________________________________________ > Phpwebsite-developers mailing list > Php...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpwebsite-developers |
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From: Mike W. <wi...@ce...> - 2001-04-06 03:24:26
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You will need a newer browser to see the phpWidget page correctly. Netscape 4.7 lacks a little, so if you can try it with a 5.0 browser it should look fine. Here is the link again http://www.northern.ca/projects/phpwidgets/ winzor ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Windsor" <wi...@ce...> To: "phpWS Develeopers" <php...@li...> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 10:10 PM Subject: [Phpwebsite-developers] phpWidgets very nice idea > I thougth I would show you guys this, if you've seen this already forget it. > This is a really cool idea and I think this is a lot like the direction > phpWebSite is looking for if I'm not mistaken. If not I think the concept > is VERY cool. > > You can see it in action here, > http://www.northern.ca/projects/phpwidgets/index.php3 or on Sourceforge > http://sourceforge.net/projects/phpwidgets/ > > > winzor > > > _______________________________________________ > Phpwebsite-developers mailing list > Php...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpwebsite-developers > > |
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From: Mike W. <wi...@ce...> - 2001-04-06 03:10:52
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I thougth I would show you guys this, if you've seen this already forget it. This is a really cool idea and I think this is a lot like the direction phpWebSite is looking for if I'm not mistaken. If not I think the concept is VERY cool. You can see it in action here, http://www.northern.ca/projects/phpwidgets/index.php3 or on Sourceforge http://sourceforge.net/projects/phpwidgets/ winzor |
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From: clayton c. <cc...@ca...> - 2001-04-04 22:44:43
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Another site i came across in my travels : http://www.synop.com/products their products are all PHP. good to get an idea of something to eventually shoot at (especially given the sticker shock from thier toolkit) |
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From: Frits J. <FJ...@uv...> - 2001-04-04 19:40:13
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W.D.Sumilang and Karsten: I tried to get to chat with both of u regarding CSS.. Pls try and contact me on fj...@uv... with a channel/way & time of chatting that u prefer.. Thanks. Everybody else; Sorry for my noise on this channel. |
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From: Frits J. <FJ...@uv...> - 2001-04-04 18:34:10
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Privat to Karsten; (His direct mail dont appear to work, sorry everybody for the inconvienince..) Thanks :) fri...@ho... 21:30 mid-european time on ms messenger service, chat? |
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From: Karsten D. <k.d...@tu...> - 2001-04-04 18:24:53
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On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 06:02:05PM +0200, Frits Jensen wrote: > I have ben writing about making a set of rules of which future coding and > themes-making should apply. Though having the understanding of the maths, > and the layout of my idea all clear, I must admit that my coding abilities > and deep knowledge and understanding of CSS has proven not to be sufficie= nt > to come up with anything usefull for real use. If anyone can and will do = the > syntaxing, I'd be happy to finish what I have started. I know what I want, > but it went over my head in the mysteries of rules, as it would be far to > complex to really test that what I whas trying to write would work.. Sorr= y, > Frits. I am sure that there are some who would do the coding/syntaxing. I am one of them, so feel free to contact me privately (or through the list, if you think that would be better) Regards, Karsten --=20 Why do we have to hide from the police, daddy? Because we use emacs, son. They use vi. ----------------------------- mailto:k.d...@tu... w=B3: http://www.k-fish.de/ gpg: http://www.k-fish.de/mykeys.gpg |
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From: Todd O. <to...@da...> - 2001-04-04 18:09:02
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WDS recommended mmbase.org for our review. WOW what a project !!! Now I'm certainly not advocating a switch to Java, but the class relationships are very well thought out, as well as their object "services". Many on the list have already wanted to design plug-in modules that offer "services" to other modules (such as email). The mmbase.org model is one I am very impressed with. They have their own scripting language (like Cold Fusion) and many other features that we wouldn't use in phpWebSite, however. A mmbase developer wrote his Master's thesis on how to integrate mmbase with Jini, which is at the URL below in pdf format. Chapter 3 of his thesis gives an excellent overview of mmbase and how it builds object nodes and relationship nodes. Overall an excellent paper. Hopefully, these concepts will spark a brainstorm of how we can make phpWebSite all we dream it can be. http://www.datadx.com/phpwebsite/ --Todd |
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From: W.D.Sumilang <wa...@on...> - 2001-04-04 17:57:35
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<archive ref: http://www.geocrawler.com/archives/3/9885/2001/3/0/5453791/> Your observations on CSS and themes thus far were on the right track IMHO, I'd like to see what you've accrued on the matter to date... thanks. -WD __________________________________________________ FREE voicemail, email, and fax...all in one place. Sign Up Now! http://www.onebox.com |
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From: Frits J. <FJ...@uv...> - 2001-04-04 16:02:58
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I have ben writing about making a set of rules of which future coding and themes-making should apply. Though having the understanding of the maths, and the layout of my idea all clear, I must admit that my coding abilities and deep knowledge and understanding of CSS has proven not to be sufficient to come up with anything usefull for real use. If anyone can and will do the syntaxing, I'd be happy to finish what I have started. I know what I want, but it went over my head in the mysteries of rules, as it would be far to complex to really test that what I whas trying to write would work.. Sorry, Frits. |
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From: Alain F. <al...@va...> - 2001-04-04 11:07:01
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Hi,
I volunteer to help with the french one if someone tells me what to do once
the new strings have been defined.
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : php...@li...
> [mailto:php...@li...]De la part de
> Brian W. Brown
> Envoyé : mardi 3 avril 2001 15:02
> À : php...@li...
> Objet : Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] French Language, general translation
> woes !
>
> {snip}
>
> Good point. Ultimately, your call. A re-write at this point is a sure
> thing, but there might be a fairly long waiting period before this is
> released and is usable. I might post a question to the language
> list on SF
> and see how it strikes those who would have to update language files...
>
> Brian
>
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From: Spiggy T. <th...@me...> - 2001-04-04 02:43:36
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also, when it comes to big scale content management system check out http://www.typo3.com the system is done with php. i installed it a couple of months ago and i was suitably impressed (runs on virtual hosting without problems). it has somewhat of a learning curve though with its own scripting language for the template-engine... plus its quite a complex system. paivi |
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From: Todd O. <to...@da...> - 2001-04-03 20:47:22
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> Can you post these so that we can DL/view the code? > > http://www.datadx.com/phpwebsite/ Sorry, my mistake. I forgot Apache won't let you DL *.php files (duh). Apache was doing its job, so I can't complain. The files have been renamed *.php.txt --Todd |
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From: Brian W. B. <br...@ap...> - 2001-04-03 20:26:08
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Todd: > Clayton's port of the Ars Digita Community System access control list > can be found at the my URL below. As he said, it is not a functional > port, but it's better than reading the original TCL code. Thanks > Clayton !!! Look at it to get an idea of how we could provide fine > granularity in phpWS's permissions. > > http://www.datadx.com/phpwebsite/ Can you post these so that we can DL/view the code? Brian -- Brian W. Brown Internet Systems Architect, ESS Student Development Room 269, John Thomas Hall Appalachian State University Boone, NC 28608 vox: 828-262-7124 fax: 828-262-2585 |
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From: Todd O. <to...@da...> - 2001-04-03 20:17:04
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WDS, Clayton's port of the Ars Digita Community System access control list can be found at the my URL below. As he said, it is not a functional port, but it's better than reading the original TCL code. Thanks Clayton !!! Look at it to get an idea of how we could provide fine granularity in phpWS's permissions. http://www.datadx.com/phpwebsite/ I will review mmbase this afternoon. --Todd |
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From: Brian W. B. <br...@ap...> - 2001-04-03 18:42:29
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> <BinaryCloud.com and many others believe that there should not be ANY > echo or > print statements.> > I think this is a given now... and your excerpt serves as a nice > guideline... Agreed - the Road Map will include coding standards - the PEAR/BinaryCloud combo is basically it. > so what's specific structure to model phpWS, openACS looks > quite clean although haven't really taken too coherent a look... guess > i'd like to see the proposed current roadmap. > Has anyone looked at MMBase http://www.mmbase.org/, i've only peeked... > nice dev organization, tho. A detailed "structural" model for the re-write will follow the Road Map. We will be asking for help in developing this, so start thinking about this now. I like the dev model for MMBase as well, and once we have volunteers for various components, we will assign lead developers to each. Very efficient, IMHO. Brian Brown phpWebSite Project Manager -- Brian W. Brown Internet Systems Architect, ESS Student Development Room 269, John Thomas Hall Appalachian State University Boone, NC 28608 vox: 828-262-7124 fax: 828-262-2585 |
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From: W.D.Sumilang <wa...@on...> - 2001-04-03 18:32:16
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<BinaryCloud.com and many others believe that there should not be ANY echo or print statements.> I think this is a given now... and your excerpt serves as a nice guideline... so what's specific structure to model phpWS, openACS looks quite clean although haven't really taken too coherent a look... guess i'd like to see the proposed current roadmap. Has anyone looked at MMBase http://www.mmbase.org/, i've only peeked... nice dev organization, tho. __________________________________________________ FREE voicemail, email, and fax...all in one place. Sign Up Now! http://www.onebox.com |
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From: clayton c. <cc...@ca...> - 2001-04-03 14:06:59
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We are nowhere near needing something like this, but i think its something we should watch ... http://ibm.digiconcept.net/netautor.basic/index.html and its written in PHP ... |
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From: Brian W. B. <br...@ap...> - 2001-04-03 13:05:29
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>> Agreed. There is no reason why the needed variables could not be >> included in the TRANSLATE[[....]] statements. Feel free to track >> these down in the core code and change them. If you look in the CVS >> at the Language "Changes" file: > > Is it senseful to do this work now or shall I better wait for the > rewritten code? Good point. Ultimately, your call. A re-write at this point is a sure thing, but there might be a fairly long waiting period before this is released and is usable. I might post a question to the language list on SF and see how it strikes those who would have to update language files... Brian -- Brian W. Brown Internet Systems Architect, ESS Student Development Room 269, John Thomas Hall Appalachian State University Boone, NC 28608 vox: 828-262-7124 fax: 828-262-2585 |
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From: Jason C. <cam...@xp...> - 2001-04-03 12:32:07
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Anyone look at the Beta of Nuke 5 yet?? I wanted to see whats changed or has been improved. I still IMHO see bad PHP coding. There are tons of if/then/else statements and if/then statements where it could be a switch statement. Now I'm sure I've seen and remember tests from long long long time ago with even Turbo Pascal that multiple if/then statements are alot slower to execute than say a "Case" statement or for PHP a "Switch" statement. Just seems hard to believe those weren't changed to switch statements in the new version. At least they've been changed in phpWebSite :) Its just really bad coding and I hate bad coding.... Jason Campbell Xplozive Media Technologies www.xplozivemedia.com |
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From: Alain F. <al...@va...> - 2001-04-03 07:40:58
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Hi Christian, If I were to give my vote, I'd say it's useful now :) > -----Message d'origine----- > De : php...@li... > [mailto:php...@li...]De la part de > Christian Schims > Envoye : mardi 3 avril 2001 09:24 > A : php...@li... > Objet : Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] French Language, general translation > woes ! > > > "Brian W. Brown" wrote: > > > > > Due to different syntactical rules in different languages the actual > > > language file is no good option. It would be much better to use > > > complete phrases containing all needed variables, so you can put them > > > in the sentence, where you need them. This would make all translations > > > much easier to handle and could avoid some very strange > expressions and > > > phrases I had to use in the german translation. > > > > Agreed. There is no reason why the needed variables could not > be included > > in the TRANSLATE[[....]] statements. Feel free to track these > down in the > > core code and change them. If you look in the CVS at the > Language "Changes" > > file: > > Is it senseful to do this work now or shall I better wait for the > rewritten code? > > Chris > > _______________________________________________ > Phpwebsite-developers mailing list > Php...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpwebsite-developers > |
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From: Christian S. <chr...@sc...> - 2001-04-03 07:24:30
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"Brian W. Brown" wrote: > > > Due to different syntactical rules in different languages the actual > > language file is no good option. It would be much better to use > > complete phrases containing all needed variables, so you can put them > > in the sentence, where you need them. This would make all translations > > much easier to handle and could avoid some very strange expressions and > > phrases I had to use in the german translation. > > Agreed. There is no reason why the needed variables could not be included > in the TRANSLATE[[....]] statements. Feel free to track these down in the > core code and change them. If you look in the CVS at the Language "Changes" > file: Is it senseful to do this work now or shall I better wait for the rewritten code? Chris |
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