Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] More phpWS and OOP

[Eloi G. <el...@re...>]

> Since the sections are mostly a way to manage and layout images 
> alongside text rather than to divide text into sections, the problem 
> is really to solve an easy way for newbies to insert and manage images 
> without knowing html.


Well, that and to allow easy layout of entire blocks of text without 
showing the underlying html, but your statement of the problem is 
correct.  We have to find a way to shield the user from having to learn 
(or look at) any form of markup language.

> Maybe that is actually best served by a wysiwyg tool like 
> htmlarea/hypertextarea as it looks like Word rather than them having 
> to work out templates and sections.


I just looked at that again.  I like it, but I'm still worried about 
non-jscript (or browser-) compatible users being exposed to all that 
underlying markup.  Maybe I'm making too big a deal out of it -- I mean, 
what's the odds of a sight-disabled user having to edit an article 
created by someone who likes to "put lots of pretty colors" in the text?

Hmm.  I just realized that I'm going to have to start callling the 
module "phpwsArticle Manager." [groan]

> MacIE is a dead product anyway.

I've been saying that about Macs in general for years.   People still 
keep buying the damn things. 

> Personally, I end up ftping my images up and typing in the html myself 
> and not using sections a lot of the time. Maybe there should be an 
> 'advanced' interface which just simply had a method of uploading 
> images and a simple 'click on the thumbnail' interface that inserted 
> the html at the cursor.


Use of htmlArea would certainly allow that to happen.

> Oh, and I forgot one of the points whilst I was typing. IME the 
> easiest method for newbies is to remove the editing of pages from the 
> browser completely and give them a client side app and an XML-RPC 
> blogger style editing interface. There's loads of really nice wysiwyg 
> tools for layout outside the web. Adding XML-RPC onto announce, 
> article and pagemaster for submitting pages would make a few of my 
> users more than happy.


Yes, I remember looking at the ones you'd suggested some time ago.  They 
didn't seem to support images without ftp'ing them up manually.  
Whatever solution is used has to be integrated in such a way that the 
module knows which pictures to delete/archive when it deletes/archives 
the article.  Can you point me to one that does?  Or at least reports 
where the pics were uploaded to?