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RE: [Phpwebsite-developers] Pagemaster & Categorizer
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From: <ad...@tu...> - 2003-06-12 16:02:30
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>> During this re-write would be the best time to try and implement >> something >> like this. > > I agree, but my fear is writing something at the same time that your team > does (what sounds like) a major rewrite on reliant (if not the same) > modules. I've worked on too many projects where a lack of cooperation led > to two versions of a function or class which led to having to rehash it > together anyway and I want to avoid that. > Agreed I will try to be more clear. >> FatCat would need a module to specify which categories it should create, >> easy part. > > Not sure what you mean by 'module'... It would need some kind of > interface (function) that other modules could ask for categories to be > created (which it should already have). Maybe you used the wrong word or > maybe I'm misunderstanding. > When I say module I mean it as a noun. A module would need to specify which categories it would create and yes fatcat would need to provide an interface for accomplishing this if it does not already exist. >> You would then need a method for selecting items from the >> category without creating confusion to the user, a little harder. > > When you say the user, are talking about module developers or system > users? I agree that when users are placing items in a category, there > needs to be a help link that explains well the use of categories. > Example: selecting an image when creating a section in pagemaster. Do you send the user to a different screen with all the images in the pagemaster->images category shown and the user can select it there. Do you show a dropdown with all the names of images contained in the pagemaster->images category. Or is there some easier method for selecting those types of items. The interface decided on would need to work for all modules for consistancy purposes. >> Then, once the item has been selected, you must make the page, event, >> or link aware of the categorized item it uses, again not too bad just >> tricky. > > This, I agree will be tricky, but my larger concern is whether to allow an > item to be in more than one category. Can an image be a Pagemaster_Image > and a Menu_Image or should you just categorize it as just an Image, etc. > This is also a good question. Should we just create some default categories that modules could call upon like Images, Links, etc? >> Then, you would need to take into account a categorized item that gets >> deleted. >> This could be the worse of it. You would have to traverse the >> items using the deleted categorized item and either remove it or set it >> to >> hidden or something. > > I agree, but that doesn't worry me as much as what happens if a category > itself gets deleted. > Aye the inverse is probably more tricky then deleting an item. > > I will soon be posting a rough idea of what I'm thinking with regards to > this modification, but I'd like some idea of what your team seems to > already have planned for this and other mods to make sure that anything I > write isn't in conflict with yours. > I look forward to hearing your thoughts on this. > > Thanks, > > > Ryan Roland > > Application Developer > Information Technology Department > Division of Recreational Sports > Indiana University > > rmroland@in... > Office: 812.855.9617 > Cell: 812.320.0032 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: adam@tu... > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 08 48 > To: php...@li... > Subject: Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] Pagemaster & Categorizer > > > Ryan, > > I see your logic here. We are going to be doing re-writes of several > modules for the 0.9.3 release so they use the Item/Manager classes. > During this re-write would be the best time to try and implement something > like this. It would require working out several issues before any > implementation could happen. Here's a few I can think of off the top of > my head: > > FatCat would need a module to specify which categories it should create, > easy part. You would then need a method for selecting items from the > category without creating confusion to the user, a little harder. Then, > once the item has been selected, you must make the page, event, or link > aware of the categorized item it uses, again not too bad just tricky. > Then, you would need to take into account a categorized item that gets > deleted. This could be the worse of it. You would have to traverse the > items using the deleted categorized item and either remove it or set it to > hidden or something. > >> Since my group has a great deal of interest in the Pagemaster module due >> to its importance in our use of the system, I have put considerable >> thought into it. >> >> One of the thoughts that I had was in regard to the Categorizer. >> Firstly, >> I am considering expanding Pagemaster's ability to add images to a page. >> Obviously if people are allowed to upload their own images each time >> they >> want to add one to a page, it could lead to severe file duplication on >> the >> server. My thought is to use the document manager to upload the images >> and handle them. Here's where my thought regarding the Categorizer >> comes >> into play. >> >> Say that the categorizer comes with some specific categories (i.e. >> Pagemaster->Images, Pagemaster->Links, etc), to which administrators, >> wishing to create a portfolio of images for use in the Pagemaster >> module, >> could add their images. Then in the pagemaster module, when a page >> creator is trying to add an image to their page, they get a portfolio of >> images made up of all the images in Pagemaster->Images. >> >> This would work for other modules as well: Menuman->Links, >> Calendar->Images, etc. >> >> It seems to me, and please correct me if I'm wrong, that so far the >> categorizer module has been used to group items together within a module >> for relevance. All sports related pages/announcements are distinct from >> all science related pages/announcements/etc. The reason I think this >> would be most beneficial is that it would take that distinction and >> allow >> it to be of use in the functionality of other modules (which is >> something >> that I don't see it being used for yet). Plus I don't see it as being >> too >> much of a change in code as much as a change in the way other modules >> use >> the categorizer. >> >> >> These are just my meandorings, but I was curious what the developer >> comm. >> thought about it. Let me know if I jumped around too much and need to >> explain anything better... I tend to ramble :) >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> Ryan Roland >> >> Application Developer >> Information Technology Department >> Division of Recreational Sports >> Indiana University >> >> rmroland@in... >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Etnus, makers of TotalView, The best >> thread debugger on the planet. 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