SV: [Phpwebsite-developers] Template system (Smarty)

[Frits J. <FJ...@uv...>]

Sorry if I seemed offensive in my previous posting, and sorry to =
everyone,
if this gets to narrow for a mailinglist :)

> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: Alain Fontaine [mailto:al...@va...]
> Sendt: 29. marts 2001 20:39
> Til: php...@li...
> Emne: RE: [Phpwebsite-developers] Template system (Smarty)
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> Hi there,
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> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De : php...@li...
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> > Frits Jensen
> > Envoy=E9 : jeudi 29 mars 2001 20:12
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> > Objet : SV: [Phpwebsite-developers] Template system (Smarty)
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> [cut]
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> [quote]
> Totally agree! "This tarball works. U want more? Code!"
> [/quote]
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> Okay, if we follow this direction, and that is what the main=20
> part of your
> mail expresses, we will just hand out a text editor, the PHP=20
> source, the
> mySQL source and a Linux distribution to the guy and say: This is
> phpWebSite. Want more? Code!.

Sorry - u couldnt get me more wrong. My concern was to make a finished
product that came with upgrades, opposed to beta on beta with potential =
for
expansion. This would mean somewhat limited versions, but versions =
where the
user did not have to code. _Only_ if this wasn't enough for the user, =
my
staement was; Code! I want a complete and working system that can be =
build
on, not an ongoing beta - that's what I was trying to express.

> Or even better, send them an E-mail with the URL's to php and=20
> mysql, and
> tell them that this is all they need to have their portal=20
> site :). I agree
> that this is ridiculus, but where I want get to is this:
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> It's all about finding the "right middle-way".
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> As far as I know, our target audience are people who don't really =
feel
> comfortable fiddling around in style sheets, HTML, let alone=20
> PHP code. I
> guess, unless I am really mistaken, that we want phpWebSite=20
> to be a Portal
> Application in the "Windows" sense, e.g. "point&click, setup.exe,
> click-click" and there you have your own customized portal site.
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> In that sense, I definitely feel that a "theme editor" would be very
> welcome. Don't forget that there will be many phpWebSite=20
> users that don't
> even know HTML. Actually, the guy I am currently setting up=20
> phpWebSite for
> is one of them.
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> Anyway, even if we don't include an editor, going the=20
> "templatized themes
> definition" direction will probably prove to be much less of=20
> a hassle to
> manage. Which of the following is better:
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> * 10 themes equals 10 directories, each having 15 files
> or:
> * 10 themes equals ONE directory, having 15 slightly more=20
> complex files
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Karsten just expressed MHO :)

> The first possibility means 150 entities to manage, the=20
> second means 15
> entities. It's clear that both from a developer's point of=20
> view, AND from
> the user's point of view, the second possibility is the way=20
> to go. In any
> way, we will end up with an "easier to manage" factor equalling
> approximately the number of themes. The more themes we have,=20
> the more the
> second solution will become easier to manage/update.
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> I can somehow understand the points you make about including the =
theme
> editor (although I don't agree with all of them). However, I=20
> cannot agree
> with you on the fact that it would be better to have the "10=20
> themes =3D=3D 10
> directories" structure. That is not dynamic, not manageable, and not
> challenging. The last point is something we shouldn't forget:=20
> Most of us are
> doing this because it is fun, and because we want to learn.=20
> If it weren't
> for that, we could simply start creating static portal sites=20
> and keep our
> lives busy updating them using Frontpage 2000.
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> No offense taken, and these are just my personal views on the=20
> matter :)
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> Alain

:)

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