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Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication
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From: Jeremy A. <ja...@tu...> - 2001-03-27 01:08:46
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This is just to let everyone know. We are not trying to ignore everyone. I promise! We try to take an active part but are hampered by many things. Brian Lambith, Adam, Charles and I are students and our schedules are changing every day. Brian Brown and Matt are ASU employees and have other commitments as well as phpWebSite. So that said we als do a lot of developing and not a lot of talking some days so we are quiet sometimes. :- ) Hope that clears up a few thing. PS, Brian Brown is the head guy with Matt second in command. I do a lot of the server stuff. (The command line it my friend!) > I believe Brian Brown is the head guy at ASU and he must not be > available today. I don't think Appalachian State "owns" it if you want > to use that word, but the project was definitely started and is hosted > there. I think most of the ASU guys must not be unavailable today. I > haven't heard from anyone of them. > > Mike > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Geoff Staples" <Ge...@Ho...> > To: <php...@li...> > Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 2:25 PM > Subject: RE: [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication > > >> That decision is fine with me. >> >> HOWEVER, I would like to ask for a clarification. My understanding is >> that Appalachian State University owns phpWebsite. >> >> In my mind, while suggestions, support, etc. should always be welcome, >> someone (or several) authorized by Appalachian State should in fact >> make decisions once they think they've received enough input. >> >> In any event, I'd like to know who has the authority to make the > decisions, >> etc. >> >> I'm perfectly happy to have Jason stepup and take charge on this >> issue. (THANK YOU, JASON!) >> >> But, it's probably a good idea to know how decisions will be made >> before something more contentious comes up. >> >> Geoff >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: php...@li... >> [mailto:php...@li...]On Behalf Of >> Jason Campbell >> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 12:47 PM >> To: php...@li... >> Subject: Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication >> >> >> Well, if you want a decision made then here ya go. We're using IRC on >> EFNet. I can setup a channel, I have friends with botnets that will > gladly >> help keep the channel from getting taken over by someone. >> >> We should have a meeting this week to get all the ideas on the table. >> After that we should then decide what to start with doing first from >> the list of ideas thats formed. >> >> We'll need someone to take notes of the meeting or log the whole >> session > of >> the channel. Anyone good at taking notes??? >> >> After that is done we should then have another meeting a few days >> after that to formulate what to start doing first. This meeting would >> be for > the >> dev team only to write in stone what we want to do with the project >> and WHAT to do first. I.E. Redo the database, leave it alone, use >> ADODB or PEAR or whatever, you get what I mean. >> >> I also run my own web hosting company (Xplozive Media Technologies) >> and have my own servers (two) at my disposal running off my own >> bandwidth > using >> FreeBSD, so I have no trouble hosting anything that we need for the > project. >> >> This is what I think should happen so if no one has anything else to >> say about this, this is how it should be. >> >> You wanted a decision so there it is.... :) >> >> Jason Campbell >> Xplozive Media Technologies >> www.xplozivemedia.com >> phpWebSite Developer >> >> > Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] CommunicationThis is my first time >> > posting to the developers list and I hope you don't mind. I've been >> > watching all the list since phpWebSite began and I must commend >> > everyone on the developers list on your civility, it doesn't happen >> > too often from other projects I watched. I feel a sense that >> > everyone is trying to stay that way as much as possible and that is >> > good but it also seems that everyone might be going a bit to far and >> > not wanting to step on someones toes. Everyone seems to have ideas >> > that they bring to the table and then say "whatever the group >> > decides". We,you,us, they, whoever need to get the focus and >> > direction back to the project. I think a chat-whiteboard for >> > meeting is great and I agree with Geoff that it should be done some >> > place neutral, but to spend a week on discussing on where to have >> > discussions... well you know. I guess what I would like to see is >> > a "leader" make some very radical decisions based on input from >> > everyone involved and then we follow that course. I definately do >> > not understand all the discussions on this list, but I do see what >> > looks like a project becoming bogged down. I apologize if I over >> > stepped my bounds, but I believe this project is VERY exciting and >> > has HUGE potential and I don't want to see it lose out. >> > >> > Mike windsor >> > >> > >> > From: Geoff Staples >> > To: php...@li... >> > Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 11:36 AM >> > Subject: RE: [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication >> > >> > >> > I haven't looked at communityzero. But, I like the idea of a >> > third party service. I offered to setup a chat service on one of >> > my servers. Now, someone else has offered to host one as well. >> > So, when I say what follows, it is directed at me as well as >> > everyone else. If we use something setup on one of our >> > developers's sites, we are then tied into someone who may >> > eventually lose interest or move on for another reason. Some may >> > offer the services of their employer which could be revolked at >> > any time. I own my servers and they are in a NOC, but that is a >> > small consolation. So, I suggest that we use a third party >> > service such as communityzero (which I haven't looke at) or, >> > perhaps, Appalachian State can host Chat, whiteboard, etc. for >> > us. They are the owner of the project, so we don't have to be >> > concerned about them leaving the project. I'm still happy to >> > host something if that is what we want to do. But, again, upon >> > further reflection, it is probably better to use something >> > hosted by Appalachian State or a thirdparty tool. Just as a >> > reminder: I think that a whiteboard tool or something similar is >> > really important for drawing class diagrams, ERD's, flowcharts, >> > data flow diagrams, or whatever. >> > >> > Geoff >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: php...@li... >> > [mailto:php...@li...]On >> > Behalf Of Aaron Adams Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 10:10 AM >> > To: php...@li... >> > Subject: Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication >> > >> > >> > >> > Hey guys, >> > >> > Check out http://communityzero.com >> > >> > It's a great (free) tool for private conferencing/collaboration. >> > Not only can you post documents, hold a forum discussion, and >> > manage lists, but it also has instant messaging/chat. You can >> > personalize your group to serve most purposes. (The interface is >> > fairly intuitive as well). --- >> > Aaron Adams >> > >> > >> > >> > From: "Geoff Staples" <Ge...@Ho...> >> > Reply-To: php...@li... >> > Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:03:29 -0600 >> > To: <php...@li...> >> > Subject: RE: [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > I'll pitch in another two cents on the communications topic. >> > >> > IRC would be fine. My offer of setting up a private chat on >> > one of my servers stands. But, now I have further question: >> > >> > What about a venue that provides whiteboard, document display, >> > and other visual stuff in addition to the written word? >> > >> > I'm thinking that it would be very handy to be able to stand >> > at a white board together on occasion. >> > >> > Maybe even setup for voice conference calling? >> > >> > Geoff >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Phpwebsite-developers mailing list >> Php...@li... >> http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpwebsite-developers >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Phpwebsite-developers mailing list >> Php...@li... >> http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpwebsite-developers >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Phpwebsite-developers mailing list > Php...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpwebsite-developers |
