Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication

[Jason C. <cam...@xp...>]

Well, if you want a decision made then here ya go.  We're using IRC on 
EFNet.  I can setup a channel, I have friends with botnets that will gladly 
help keep the channel from getting taken over by someone.  

We should have a meeting this week to get all the ideas on the table.  
After that we should then decide what to start with doing first from the 
list of ideas thats formed.  

We'll need someone to take notes of the meeting or log the whole session of 
the channel.  Anyone good at taking notes???

After that is done we should then have another meeting a few days after 
that to formulate what to start doing first.  This meeting would be for the 
dev team only to write in stone what we want to do with the project and 
WHAT to do first.  I.E. Redo the database, leave it alone, use ADODB or 
PEAR or whatever, you get what I mean.

I also run my own web hosting company (Xplozive Media Technologies) and 
have my own servers (two) at my disposal running off my own bandwidth using 
FreeBSD, so I have no trouble hosting anything that we need for the project.

This is what I think should happen so if no one has anything else to say 
about this, this is how it should be.  

You wanted a decision so there it is.... :)

Jason Campbell
Xplozive Media Technologies
www.xplozivemedia.com
phpWebSite Developer

> Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] CommunicationThis is my first time posting
> to the developers list and I hope you don't mind. I've been watching
> all the list since phpWebSite began and I must commend everyone on the
> developers list on your civility, it doesn't happen too often from
> other projects I watched.  I feel a sense that everyone is trying to
> stay that way as much as possible and that is good but it also seems
> that everyone might be going a bit to far and not wanting to step on
> someones toes.  Everyone seems to have ideas that they bring to the
> table and then say "whatever the group decides".  We,you,us, they, 
> whoever need to get the focus and direction back to the project.   I
> think a chat-whiteboard  for meeting is great and I agree with Geoff
> that it should be done some place neutral, but to spend a week on
> discussing on where to have discussions... well you know.   I guess
> what I would like to see is a "leader" make some very radical decisions
> based on input from everyone involved and then we follow that course. 
> I definately do not understand all the discussions on this list, but I
> do see what looks like a project becoming bogged down.  I apologize if
> I over stepped my bounds, but I believe this project is VERY exciting
> and has HUGE potential and I don't want to see it lose out.
> 
> Mike windsor
> 
> 
>   From: Geoff Staples 
>   To: php...@li... 
>   Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 11:36 AM
>   Subject: RE: [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication
> 
> 
>     I haven't looked at communityzero. But, I like the idea of a third
>     party service. I offered to setup a chat service on one of my
>     servers. Now, someone else has offered to host one as well. So,
>     when I say what follows, it is directed at me as well as everyone
>     else. If we use something setup on one of our developers's sites,
>     we are then tied into someone who may eventually lose interest or
>     move on for another reason. Some may offer the services of their
>     employer which could be revolked at any time. I own my servers and
>     they are in a NOC, but that is a small consolation. So, I suggest
>     that we use a third party service such as communityzero (which I
>     haven't looke at) or, perhaps, Appalachian State can host Chat,
>     whiteboard, etc. for us. They are the owner of the project, so we
>     don't have to be concerned about them leaving the project. I'm
>     still happy to host something if that is what we want to do. But,
>     again, upon further reflection, it is probably better to use
>     something hosted by Appalachian State or a thirdparty tool. Just as
>     a reminder: I think that a whiteboard tool or something similar is
>     really important for drawing class diagrams, ERD's, flowcharts,
>     data flow diagrams, or whatever.
> 
>     Geoff
> 
> 
>      -----Original Message-----
>     From: php...@li...
>     [mailto:php...@li...]On Behalf
>     Of Aaron Adams Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 10:10 AM
>     To: php...@li...
>     Subject: Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication
> 
> 
> 
>     Hey guys,
> 
>     Check out http://communityzero.com
> 
>     It's a great (free) tool for private conferencing/collaboration.
>     Not only can you post documents, hold a forum discussion, and
>     manage lists, but it also has instant messaging/chat. You can
>     personalize your group to serve most purposes. (The interface is
>     fairly intuitive as well). ---
>     Aaron Adams
> 
> 
> 
>       From: "Geoff Staples" <Ge...@Ho...>
>       Reply-To: php...@li...
>       Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:03:29 -0600
>       To: <php...@li...>
>       Subject: RE: [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication
> 
> 
> 
> 
>       I'll pitch in another two cents on the communications topic.
> 
>       IRC would be fine. My offer of setting up a private chat on one
>       of my servers stands. But, now I have further question:
> 
>       What about a venue that provides whiteboard, document display,
>       and other visual stuff in addition to the written word?
> 
>       I'm thinking that it would be very handy to be able to stand at a
>       white board together on occasion.
> 
>       Maybe even setup for voice conference calling?
> 
>       Geoff