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Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication
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From: Mike W. <wi...@ce...> - 2001-03-26 18:18:22
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Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] CommunicationThis is my first time posting =
to the developers list and I hope you don't mind. I've been watching all =
the list since phpWebSite began and I must commend everyone on the =
developers list on your civility, it doesn't happen too often from other =
projects I watched. I feel a sense that everyone is trying to stay that =
way as much as possible and that is good but it also seems that everyone =
might be going a bit to far and not wanting to step on someones toes. =
Everyone seems to have ideas that they bring to the table and then say =
"whatever the group decides". We,you,us, they, whoever need to get the =
focus and direction back to the project. =20
I think a chat-whiteboard for meeting is great and I agree with Geoff =
that it should be done some place neutral, but to spend a week on =
discussing on where to have discussions... well you know. =20
I guess what I would like to see is a "leader" make some very radical =
decisions based on input from everyone involved and then we follow that =
course.=20
I definately do not understand all the discussions on this list, but I =
do see what looks like a project becoming bogged down.=20
I apologize if I over stepped my bounds, but I believe this project is =
VERY exciting and has HUGE potential and I don't want to see it lose =
out.
Mike windsor
From: Geoff Staples=20
To: php...@li...=20
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 11:36 AM
Subject: RE: [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication
I haven't looked at communityzero. But, I like the idea of a third =
party service.
I offered to setup a chat service on one of my servers. Now, someone =
else has offered to host one as well.
So, when I say what follows, it is directed at me as well as =
everyone else.
If we use something setup on one of our developers's sites, we are =
then tied into someone who may eventually lose interest or move on for =
another reason.
Some may offer the services of their employer which could be =
revolked at any time. I own my servers and they are in a NOC, but that =
is a small consolation.
So, I suggest that we use a third party service such as =
communityzero (which I haven't looke at) or, perhaps, Appalachian State =
can host Chat, whiteboard, etc. for us. They are the owner of the =
project, so we don't have to be concerned about them leaving the =
project.
I'm still happy to host something if that is what we want to do. =
But, again, upon further reflection, it is probably better to use =
something hosted by Appalachian State or a thirdparty tool.
Just as a reminder: I think that a whiteboard tool or something =
similar is really important for drawing class diagrams, ERD's, =
flowcharts, data flow diagrams, or whatever.
Geoff
-----Original Message-----
From: php...@li... =
[mailto:php...@li...]On Behalf Of =
Aaron Adams
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 10:10 AM
To: php...@li...
Subject: Re: [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication
Hey guys,
Check out http://communityzero.com
It's a great (free) tool for private conferencing/collaboration. Not =
only can you post documents, hold a forum discussion, and manage lists, =
but it also has instant messaging/chat. You can personalize your group =
to serve most purposes. (The interface is fairly intuitive as well).
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Aaron Adams
From: "Geoff Staples" <Ge...@Ho...>
Reply-To: php...@li...
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:03:29 -0600
To: <php...@li...>
Subject: RE: [Phpwebsite-developers] Communication
I'll pitch in another two cents on the communications topic.
IRC would be fine. My offer of setting up a private chat on one of =
my
servers stands. But, now I have further question:
What about a venue that provides whiteboard, document display, and =
other
visual stuff in addition to the written word?
I'm thinking that it would be very handy to be able to stand at a =
white
board together on occasion.
Maybe even setup for voice conference calling?
Geoff
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